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  • dude93
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    They all claim there’s no lead and that it’s an ensemble, hence why they submitted in supporting. My question is, why didn’t they all just submit as leads? If there’s no lead, aren’t they all a lead (like Friends when they went lead)? Surely it’s the same thing as everyone going supporting. If all six adults submitted as leads from the start (2010) to now, who would have been nominated, and who would have won? Would the categories have been as jam-packed with MF people like they were initially? Personally, I don’t think Sofia Vergara or Jesse Tyler Ferguson would ever have been nominated, and I think Ty Burrell would have won in 2011 regardless of category placement. I also think Ed O’Neill would have an Emmy by now if he was in lead. What about Stonestreet and Bowen? 

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    GoMe91
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    Well, supporting actors “support” the leading actor, hence the name. Since the Modern Family actors are just supporting each other, then they are all supporting actors. 

    Although, maybe Modern Family should consider pulling a “Friends” and submitting all the adult cast members as lead. Hey, if Ty Burrell feels like the kids don’t get enough respect then maybe they should make it easier for them (Did the cast ever think voters would nominate ALL six male actors in the supporting actor category?)

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    Emmys2011
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    As much as they love the show, there is no way they would´ve nominated all six for so long had they been in lead. I can see maybe 4-5 in its first two years, but its not a good strategy when they are six of them.

     I did liked the idea of Burrell and Bowen moving up after their wins in season 2, but now I love that they stuck together cause I think of friends and I hate that Aniston and LeBlanc started getting nominations in lead while everyone else got snubbed…

    So basically, it would have been a bad strategy, and they are to loyal or just don´t care enough to move up at this point. Good. 

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    Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    Because they all suck, except for Ty Burrell.

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    Riley
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    They all claim there’s no lead and that it’s an
    ensemble, hence why they submitted in supporting. My question is, why
    didn’t they all just submit as leads?

    You answered your own
    question before you asked it.

    I also think Ed O’Neill
    would have an Emmy by now if he was in lead.

    Why would he have a
    lead Emmy if he does not have a supporting one and struggles even to be
    nominated?

    Burrell is such a terrible submitter and he would not
    have been able to benefit from his co-stars’ tapes as much in lead.  I
    think that he would be Emmy-less if he had submitted lead every season. 
    Bowen would not have been able to beat Bridesmaids or Veep.  I do not see Stonestreet having been nominated the first season.  He would not have beaten Jon Cryer two years later.

    Burrell
    would have been nominated every season.  He would have replaced Matthew
    Morrison for the first season.  The other lead actor nominees that year
    seemed pretty solid though and Stonestreet was not getting SAG back
    then, so I think that he would have missed.  For the second season, I
    think that it would have been Burrell and Stonestreet replacing Johnny
    Galecki and Matt LeBlanc, as neither have ever gotten SAG for their
    roles.  For the third season, Burrell would have replaced Cheadle, who
    missed SAG for that season.  Stonestreet might have taken Larry David’s
    spot.  David did miss SAG, but Curb Your Enthusiasm was pretty
    popular then.  Last year would have only had Burrell representing
    because it is hard to say who he would have bumped out.  Not sure who
    Burrell would have replaced this year, but he would have been in there. 
    The lineup seems weak, so maybe Ferguson could have gotten in for the
    first time, but I doubt it.

    Vergara would have bumped out Lea
    Michele in the first season.  Bowen would have been able to bump out
    someone between Amy Poehler on her first nomination here, The New Adventures of Old Christine
    and Toni Collette on her last nomination.  For the second season,
    Martha Plimpton and Laura Linney get bumped out for Vergara and Bowen. 
    For the third season, there was a tie in lead actress, so the first
    thing that we need to do is eliminate the seventh person there.  Melissa
    McCarthy seems to come in and out based on whether there is space, so
    she is my guess.  Zooey Deschanel would be next, followed by Lena
    Dunham.  Modern Family still seemed very healthy then, so I
    think that they would have gotten both Vergara and Bowen in.  Vergara
    might have been on her way out last year, so maybe only Bowen would have
    gotten in over Laura Dern.  Bowen would have replaced McCarthy this
    year.

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    Beyonce
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    because they don’t have the screen time to justify it. I mean, in the episode Bowen submitted this year she has 4 minutes of screen time while someone like JDL for example is in almost every scene in her episode. Bowen simply wouldn’t stand a chance if put in lead. same with the other cast members.

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    Baby Clyde
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    Because none of them are Lead.

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    24Emmy
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    For the second season,
    Martha Plimpton and Laura Linney get bumped out for Vergara and Bowen.

     

    I don’t see why Laura Linney would be bumped. She was the big new Showtime star and the favorite that year.

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    Riley
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    That was not enough to get her a nomination the next year or the year after that.  It was also not enough to get her a win, despite the category having awarded dramatic Showtime leads the two years before in Edie Falco and Toni Collette.  Finally, Linney was snubbed at SAG for Vergara for the first season of The Big C.  Bowen and Vergara got in the year after that at SAG and the Emmys were in the middle.

    Tina Fey and Edie Falco are always safe.  That was the one year that Parks and Recreation got series, so it would have been weird for Amy Poehler to miss.  Melissa McCarthy was able to ride her Oscar buzz all the way to a win, so she would not have missed the nomination.  Laura Linney is the easiest to make an argument against, after Martha Plimpton of course.

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    CanadianFan
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    I agree with a lot of what thedemonhog is saying, except for an Eric Stonestreet snub in S1. He was the breakout character of the show, even if lazy SAG voters didn’t recognize it right away.

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    That was not enough to get her a nomination the next year or the year after that.  It was also not enough to get her a win, despite the category having awarded dramatic Showtime leads the two years before in Edie Falco and Toni Collette.  Finally, Linney was snubbed at SAG for Vergara for the first season of The Big C.  Bowen and Vergara got in the year after that at SAG and the Emmys were in the middle.

     

    Laura Linney only missed out on one nomination. Seasons 2 and 3 of The Big C both aired during the eligibility period for the 2012 Emmys. She was the new star of the category in 2011. She wasn’t new anymore in 2012. And don’t forget she did win last year.

    Melissa McCarthy was able to ride her Oscar buzz all the way to a win, so she would not have missed the nomination.

     

    Yes, but she also could’ve been last when it came to the nominations. Different votes.

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    If the MF cast went lead from the start, not all of them would be nominated and none of them would’ve won. They each would’ve had too little time on their own tapes compared to their competitors. They would also not have benefited from being seen on their costars’ tapes, as I doubt MF would gotten multiple nominees in either lead category. They made the right choice to enter in supporting, which are more open categories, and thus have dominated them for a while. 

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    Choice Chayawat
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    They each would’ve had too little time on their own tapes compared to their competitors.

    THIS. They have very little already in supporting categories. However, Little Bo Bleep would have been an acceptable lead tape for Julie Bowen.

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    Riley
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    [quote=”thedemonhog”]Melissa McCarthy was able to ride her Oscar buzz all the way to a win, so she would not have missed the nomination.

    Yes, but she also could’ve been last when it came to the nominations. Different votes.[/quote]I am thinking that tapes did not play too much of a factor in her win, so the votes would have been similar in both voting stages.

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    Riley
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    [quote=”thedemonhog”]Melissa McCarthy was able to ride her Oscar buzz all the way to a win, so she would not have missed the nomination.

    Yes, but she also could’ve been last when it came to the nominations. Different votes.[/quote]I am thinking that tapes did not play too much of a factor in her win, so the votes would have been similar in both voting stages.

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