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  • David Baruffi
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    I don’t understand why Burrell, Stonestreet, and Bowen have just been singled out by the Academy, and not recognized Vergara, O’Neill, Ferguson, not to mention ever even nominating the kids. I’m not the show’s biggest fan, don’t get me wrong, I thought it got tiresome and boring three-four years ago, but if they really like the show that much, why are they giving the Emmys to the same people? Traditionally, the Emmys, when they really like an ensemble series, made at least a concerted effort to award Emmys to as many in the cast as possible. Everyone on “Will & Grace” inevitably winning. “The Golden Girls”, making sure every year someone different from the show would win Lead Actress. Half the cast of “Cheers” won Emmys, or were at least nominated. Everyone except Gavin McLoud, nominated for “The Mary Tyler Moore Show” at some point. All of “Seinfeld” I believe won at some point…. It doesn’t work for every show, obviously a Candace Bergen or a Jim Parsons can become a dominate character, even a John Larroquette or a Jeremy Piven can also take over as a supporting character and overshadow everybody, but that isn’t the case with “Modern Family”; I don’t think anyway. I mean, it’s not like “Friends” which they only half-liked to begin with, and only has fewer Best Series Nominations then “Modern Family” does now, and it only one once, is there something different going on that’s preventing them from doing this than years before that I’m missing. It even used to happen in Drama Series, most of “The West Wing” got a turn winning, “Hill Street Blues” used to overload the Supporting Actor categories, etc. Why wouldn’t this pattern continue with “Modern Family”, especially when it keeps winning Best Comedy Series? What’s the X-Factor preventing this pattern to be completely followed with “Modern Family”? 

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    Indonesian
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    PREACH! Ferguson should have won this year, and Vergara is amazing, also O’Neill is overdue. not to mention the kids, am I the only one to think that Anderson-Emmons should be nominated this year?

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    AviChristiaans
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    With
    only 6 spots per category, and the fact that the Adult cast are considered the
    lead Ensemble of the show, i don’t see how the 18000 Emmy voters could jam ALL Modern Family actors
    into 12 spots for Supporting Comedy. Or ignore the adult cast for a child actor that has way less screen time and/or story arcs to be memorable. What with so many competition and Comedies airing, and the fact that ALL adult cast members got Emmy nominations at the end of the day. That is the entire adult cast. 

    I can’t really comment on Vergara, O Neil and Ferguson not winning Emmys. Other than that  other awards shows also seem to agree with the Emmys?  In terms of the awards won, looking at other comparible awards shows, Ty Burrell and Julie Bowen are the only actors to have won awards as well for Modern Family outside of the Emmys, with the others either nominated or completely ignored. Screen Actors Guild Award, Television Critics Award and Critics Choice Award for Ty Burrell, and Julie Bowen won a Critic’s Choice Television Award.

    Ferguson literally only has individual Emmy nods. Vergara is currently the last one standing at the Golden Globes for the cast.

    The show is now way more successful than Seinfield,
    in terms of nominations and awards won combined. Michael Richards and Julia Louis-Dreyfus are
    the only cast members to have won Emmys for their roles. In terms of Modern
    Family
    , they literally dominated the Supporting Comedy categories for 5 years
    straight, won 6 Emmys in Supporting in 5 years, won 5 straight Best Comedy
    Awards
    , etc etc.

    I don’t think at the end of its run, when the last epsiode airs one day, that people will feel it was under-awarded.  They owned the Emmys, year after year after year.

     

     


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    Jake
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    I guess you think only about those shows where co-star compete against each other as there should be no correlation about different categories. “The West Wing” spread in supporting actor or lead actress of “The Golden Girls” one rarely happens, almost never. 

    That’s what the Emmys are. There’s pretty much no reason to give Brad Garrett 4 (!) Emmys for “ELR” and not recognize Peter Boyle even once. The same with JTF and his “MF” co-stars. There were even more glaring examples in the past, check out who won and who didn’t for – let’s say – “I Spy”, “Hill Street Blues” or “NYPD Blue”. 

     

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    GraemeONeil
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    Meh, Vergara and O’Neill have never really been worthy of a win. Ferguson could have won this year, but meh. Not a big deal that those 3 haven’t won.

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    jf123
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    Well, just because they love the show doesn’t mean they have to award every single cast member, maybe they just never thought Ferguson, O’Neil, and Vergara were the best supporting actor/actress in the category the years they were nominated

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    Jalal Haddad
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    With Ferguson and O’Neill it has to do more with the fact that their performances are more responsive. A lot of their comedy comes from reacting to the ridiculous things their family members do or say. With Vergara it probably has more to do with her being so polarizing. While a lot of people find her funny just as many people find her voice to be grating.

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    Marcus Dixon
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    You make great points. The only current show I can think of where the Emmys have passed along at least four different acting trophies to the cast is The Good Wife. Over its first five seasons, it won five acting trophies. Two for leading lady Julianna Margulies and one for Archie Panjabi, Martha Plimpton and Carrie Preston.

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    David Baruffi
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    Thanks for whoever corrected me on “Seinfeld”, I was sure that Jason Alexander would’ve won at some point; my mistake. And Marcus, even then, with “The Good Wife”, they were giving it to Guest Actors there; I’m not even counting them. But you know, it just seems weird, for a show like “Modern Family”, that if they’re gonna honor it, this much, an ensemble show, for so long now, that, I don’t understand giving it to Ty Burrell every year or Julie Bowen twice in a row. It feels bizarre to me. They’re all Supporting, they’re not dominant characters…- the only thing I can think of is that, the voters, really don’t have a sense of who won before or even consider that in their voting. I get that Stonestreet, does a lot more per se, than Ed O’Neill might have to do with their character, might be more capable of doing more, but every year? I mean, I get it when somebody doing great work on a series, letting them win every time, because they’re work and the show is just that good and that much better than everyone else, (And I think Jim Parsons is in that category) but for an ensemble series that they seem to love this much, for them to not do that, and almost purposefully avoid doing it? I-, I’m a little stumped on that. It feels wrong. I don’t particularly like the show, but the actors are all good, are those three that much better and more deserving, when the whole show keeps getting honored? They’re playing the same characters for five, how much better can the performances in one episode to another or season to another be from everyone else? I bet that if they did that, the Emmys, and were giving everybody, at least the adults a turn at winning, we wouldn’t mind it as much that they kept winning Comedy Series. 

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    #331899

    I always felt they hurt themselves by all submitting in supporting. I think that they should have switched it up every year. 

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    nahborghi
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    Thinking like this goes extremely against the very reasoning of Emmys to begin with: You give the award to the best supporting actor and actress of the year, you don’t “spread the wealth” between co-stars just to have a sense of equality. I mean, who in the world can say that O’Neill deserved an Emmy over Ty Burell or Eric Stonestreet in any year? Out of the six main actors of Modern Family, the ones who shine are the three winners. Voters are paying attention and rewarding the parts of the show that deserves the most, as it should be.

    And to be honest, I think it’s very rare when most of the cast gets recognized. “Will and Grace” only reaped Emmys for the four main because they were all in separated categories; put Mullally and Messing together, and the result could’ve been way different.

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    WaltEagle
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    Well, I don’t think it’s that crazy to imagine many voters having opinions like “Sofia Vergara is kinda annoying and one-note”, “Jesse Tyler Ferguson is less talented as an actor”, and “Ed O’Neill doesn’t get much of interest to do”.  I’ve always found Burrell, Stonestreet, and Bowen the funniest and the best dramatically.  I would rather have seen a few different Breaking Bad extremely worthy Supporting Actors get gold than spread wealth around Modern Family’s cast just because there are six of them.

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    espnfan
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    Sorry David Baruffi, but the idea that the Emmy’s love to spread the wealth and reward entire casts is very misleading.  Truth be told, most large ensemble shows usually have multiple cast members win awards while their co-stars win none.  Or even worse, sometimes a lead actor/actress wins multiple awards at the expense of co-stars, especially their supporting stars (i.e. they hog all the awards attention).

    Or sometimes supporting casts just wipe each other out and one person ends up winning at the expense of their co-stars. 

    To my knowledge, the only non-cartoon shows whose entire main cast won Emmy’s have been All in the Family (O’Conner, Stapleton, Reiner, and Struthers), The Golden Girls (Arthur, Getty, McClanahan, and White), and Will&Grace (Messing, McCormick, Hayes, and Mulally).

    Otherwise most casts end up with the same fate as shows like Seinfeld or Modern Family, where certain stars win Emmy Awards and the other cast members go without.

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