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Why has cable TV taken over drama at Emmys, but not comedy?

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  • Daniel Montgomery
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    Broadcast TV has been mostly exiled from the drama categories at the Emmys, and though cable/internet are starting to push broadcast shows out in comedy now (only two of the seven Comedy Series nominees are from broadcast nets), there has still only ever been one cable show ever to win (“Sex and the City”), while cable has won Best Drama every year for almost a decade.

    So why has broadcast been able to hold on to comedy for longer?

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    Tonbone
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    My theory is because comedies on cable are typically dry comedies (I,E. The Larry Sanders Show, Flight of the Conchords,Extras, Monk)  or comedy-drama niche shows (I.E. Girls, Louie, Shameless),  whereas the comedies on cable that won EMMYS recently I.E. Modern Family, 30 Rock are rather old-fashioned kind of sitcoms which aren’t extremely different from the sitcoms in the 70’s. 

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    Halo_Insider
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    Yeah, I think with comedy, Emmy voters are more attracted to shows and performances that are bombastic and broad in nature. This would also explain why Chuck Lorre shows tend to be so popular in the acting categories.

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    Gone_Guy
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    My theory is because comedies on cable are typically dry comedies (I,E. The Larry Sanders Show, Flight of the Conchords,Extras, Monk)  or comedy-drama niche shows (I.E. Girls, Louie, Shameless),  whereas the comedies on cable that won EMMYS recently I.E. Modern Family, 30 Rock are rather old-fashioned kind of sitcoms which aren’t extremely different from the sitcoms in the 70’s. 

    Which it makes it even more head-scratching that Emmy never embraced Parks and Recreation beyond giving it nominations.  

    I feel like this will be the year to really watch out for Mom. Season 1 was messy with Allison Janney as the clear MVP. Season 2 took a giant step forward in quality, with wrinkles here and there. I feel like season 3 could really be the year that has it breaking out in more categories, beyond Janney. If they’re really done with The Big Bang Theory, then it seems ideal Mom would take its place. 

    Really hoping Veep joins Sex and the City this year. It’s time. 

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    Anonymous
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    Because ever since Sex & The City none of the cable channels made a series that was as huge and popular as SATC. Entourage came close but before it had a chance to shine it probably lost its quality ( I don’t watch it so I’m not sure) next one is Silicon Valley, it is a huge success, despite not having a JLD kinda star it has twice the number of viewers Veep has and unlike Veep it is also an international success too. Also it had Writing and Directing nominations with its first season something Veep didn’t also do. With TBBT gone it is the one to watch among the cable series (if it had any acting nomination it’d be my number 1). 

    Anyway for a cable series to win it has to be a national event with word of mouth praising them etc, this year Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and Transparent fits that rule but if anyo f the two are winning it is obv gonna be UKS. 

    From next year on though Silicon Valley can win anytime.  

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    “I feel like this will be the year to really watch out for Mom.”
    As Riley and I both pointed out, Emmy voters seem to mostly hate Mom and won’t even nominate it in the categories that are mostly ONLY for CBS multi-camera comedies.

    Anyway, cable TV has mostly taken over comedy categories. In every major category except supporting actress (where it’s a tie), most nominees are from non-network shows.

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    nahborghi
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    I think that there’s a lot to do with popularity. With the exception of 30 Rock, every Series winner of the past 10 years were a big hit. Cable comedies are often niche, with few viewers and even fewer fans. Sex and The City was a hit back in its day, I remember being a kid here in Brazil and hearing about the show, I can only imagine the cultural phenomenon it was in the US. Since then, there was only one other “cable” comedy to have this much repercursion, and it was Netflix’s Orange Is the New Black. The problem is… it’s not a comedy. So I can see why it was shut out of the big categories last year. 

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    mikeboy898
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    Because people who voted for comedies are old and antiquated and like the same old shit.

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    KyleBailey
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    I think they appricate when shows can be funny without being raunchy. I don’t like Modern Family but even something like 30 Rock was brilliant and never had to push any envelopes but I think they enjoy the grittiness of dramas on cable 

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    WaltEagle
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    #359486

    Network comedy has always been stronger than network drama (75% of the most beloved pre-90s shows are comedies), and comedy is less dependent on serialization and budget to achieve greatness. Still, in due time, cable comedies will reign. 

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    DominicCobb
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    It is sort of strange that Veep hasn’t won yet. Too cynical?

    Gone Guy makes a great point – Parks and Rec is just the type of show that would win. Crazy (considering that and its high quality) that it never got that much attention, from the voters or from the general public. 

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    Anonymous
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    [quote=”Tony_DiMeo”]

    My theory is because comedies on cable are typically dry comedies (I,E. The Larry Sanders Show, Flight of the Conchords,Extras, Monk)  or comedy-drama niche shows (I.E. Girls, Louie, Shameless),  whereas the comedies on cable that won EMMYS recently I.E. Modern Family, 30 Rock are rather old-fashioned kind of sitcoms which aren’t extremely different from the sitcoms in the 70’s. 

    Which it makes it even more head-scratching that Emmy never embraced Parks and Recreation beyond giving it nominations.  

    I feel like this will be the year to really watch out for Mom. Season 1 was messy with Allison Janney as the clear MVP. Season 2 took a giant step forward in quality, with wrinkles here and there. I feel like season 3 could really be the year that has it breaking out in more categories, beyond Janney. If they’re really done with The Big Bang Theory, then it seems ideal Mom would take its place. 

    Really hoping Veep joins Sex and the City this year. It’s time. 
    [/quote]

    I can see Mom being the new Everybody Loves Raymond. It just has to keep getting better. 

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    Riley
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    #359489

    I blame the tape system favoring the broad and bombastic because HBO
    shows have done very well in popular votes.  Compare the guilds and how
    many times they have given their best comedy prize to cable:

    Emmy
    2001: Sex and the City (HBO)

    PGA
    2000: Sex and the City (HBO)
    2001: Sex and the City (HBO)
    2002: Curb Your Enthusiasm (HBO)
    2003: Sex and the City (HBO)
    2004: Curb Your Enthusiasm (HBO)
    2005: Entourage (HBO)
    2014: Orange is the New Black (NET)

    WGA
    2005: Curb Your Enthusiasm (HBO)
    2012: Louie (FX)
    2013: Veep (HBO)
    2014: Louie (FX)

    DGA
    2002: Curb Your Enthusiasm (HBO)
    2003: Sex and the City (HBO)
    2004: Sex and the City (HBO)
    2011: Curb Your Enthusiasm (HBO)
    2012: Girls (HBO)
    2014: Transparent (AMA)

    SAG
    2001: Sex and the City (HBO)
    2003: Sex and the City (HBO)
    2014: Orange is the New Black (NET)

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    Alienware
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    #359490

    It’s happening already, it’s only a matter of time before it becomes full-on domination like in the Dramas.

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    Echo469
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    #359491

    I believe the network comedies are funnier. I realize I am in the minority, but I do not find Veep, Louie, or Silicon Valley funny. They are edgy, current, and represent a style of comedy that maybe the Emmy voters cannot quite embrace yet. I think Episodes, The Comeback, Nurse Jackie and The Comedians are much funnier than tHis year’s cable nominees

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