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Will the new Emmy voting system be DISASTROUS this year?

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  • Tom O’Neil
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    The verdict is still out on the new Emmy voting system that was instituted last year. Many people believe it was horrible because most of the popular faves prevailed that the TV academy is using a popular ballot. And, of course, HBO swept nearly everything.

    So what do you think your own verdict will be this year after winners are announced?

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    forwardswill
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    If GoldDerby odds are correct it will be a poor year.
    Based on my predictions: it might be generally okay but I think that will be more out of luck (due to the new ‘only choose one’ voting system) than anything else as it just so happens that this year many of those who I am predicting to win would also probably win under the panel, truly tape based system.

    These include people like JLD, Anthony Anderson, Allison Janney, Viola Davis, Kit Harrington (just because his category is poor), Maggie Smith and Hugh Laurie, who all would have strong tapes to win regardless. However, I am still expecting there to be a few ridiculous winners who the tape system would likely have avoided such as Tony Hale (this was not his year) and Kevin Spacey over Rami Malek as well as a couple other I have in second such as Peter Dinklage, Anna Chlumsky, Robin Wright, Jeffrey Tambor etc. who I doubt would even be coming close under the tape system.

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    I think this year will have plent of upsets. I think Anderson will beat Tambor, best supporting drama actress is wide open, and I’m pretty sure Viola Davis will lose.

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    Emmyfan
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    They might as well get rid of submissions and call it The People’s Choice Awards Part Two.

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    M
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    I’m pretty sure Viola Davis will lose.

    To who? Robin Wright is a pet of several members of this board. And the other actresses what would be their edge over Davis? Viola Davis isn’t a one and done Emmy winner.

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    Riley
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    Although there is increasing consensus that tapes probably do not matter, most people still allow for some wiggle room, whereas I take a hard stance.

    Every year at the Emmys, there would be upsets that would not be too surprising if you had seen the tapes. I am talking about performances that would never win if it had just been decided by popularity. It was fun to watch because it was like a test to see if the tape system was working. Jon Cryer and Kyra Sedgwick stick out as indisputable examples. Not saying that the best tape always won, but the categories with baffling winners came in races where nobody had a knock-out tape anyway (Tony Hale, Merritt Wever).

    Last year was no different, so the bait was laid out in various categories where people had amazing tapes, but no hope without the old-fashioned judging (Kyle Chandler, Anthony Anderson, Jessica Lange). Not only did those people not win, but the Emmys went a step further by ignoring people who clearly had the most Emmy-friendly tape and you might have thought would have been able to win by popularity anyway (Jonathan Banks, Tituss Burgess, David Oyelowo, Cicely Tyson). Finally, the Emmys went a step further by actually awarding people with really bad tapes in the presence of good ones (Margo Martindale, Peter Dinklage).

    It was like the Emmys were saying as clearly as they possibly could that tapes do not matter in the slightest. Pipe up if you have an answer for what more they could have done.

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    jjjmoss
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    With Moss’s performance being clearly better, I wonder if she would have beaten that overly-recognized Linney person in the barely-liked Big C if they’d just done a winner-only ballot.

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    Riley
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    Do not confuse great performances with Emmy-friendly performances. For the tape system, loud means great. Laura Linney being insufferable while dying of cancer is total Emmy bait and she would have won however ballots were counted if tapes were a factor. She is another example of someone who would have had no chance under a general popularity vote and Elisabeth Moss’s loss there is exactly what the popularity system is intended to rectify.

    The switch to vote-one this year is interesting. At worst, it awards the same people who would have won with rankings anyway. At best, Peter Dinklage and Tony Hale are not able to ride the coattails of their series and passion votes come through for Jonathan Banks and Tituss Burgess.

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    dsps84
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    Didn’t Linney win because of those small panels and the ranking system? I thought Miniseries/Movie leads didn’t submit an episode.

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    Riley
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    Yeah, they did not submit episodes. It appeared that voters would watch one or two episodes in those cases.

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    GusCruz
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    I just watched a slugfest recently posted on Goldderby’s YouTube channel about how the new voting mechanism is displayed on mobile devices for the Directing categories. For instance, if you open the ballot for Comedy Series Directing, what you see is:

    MASTER OF NONE
    SILICON VALLEY
    SILICON VALLEY
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    VEEP
    VEEP
    VEEP

    No episode or directors name. So if your intention is to vote for Silicon Valley or Veep, you have to click to open a tab and see what episode those equal options are representing. This is shockingly incompetent webdesign and simply outrageous. It simpy isn’t fair to the nominees, considering that the ranking system is no longer in place. I mean, the so-called Goldderby “tech team” that came up with the awful new predictions center could have probably designed something less stupid and biased. We’re talking about a majority of voters who are essentially dummies, folks.

    We will know that this messed up the “natural order of things” big time if GoT loses Directing.

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    Teridax
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    I just watched a slugfest recently posted on Goldderby’s YouTube channel about how the new voting mechanism is displayed on mobile devices for the Directing categories. For instance, if you open the ballot for Comedy Series Directing, what you see is:

    MASTER OF NONE
    SILICON VALLEY
    SILICON VALLEY
    TRANSPARENT
    VEEP
    VEEP
    VEEP

    No episode or directors name. So if your intention is to vote for Silicon Valley or Veep, you have to click to open a tab and see what episode those equal options are representing. This is shockingly incompetent webdesign and simply outrageous. It simpy isn’t fair to the nominees, considering that the ranking system is no longer in place. I mean, the so-called Goldderby “tech team” that came up with the awful new predictions center could have probably designed something less stupid and biased. We’re talking about a majority of voters who are essentially dummies, folks.

    We will know that this messed up the “natural order of things” big time if GoT loses Directing.

    I agree that it’s stupid, but maybe that’s pushing it just a bit too far? 😉

    Or if Jack Bender wins instead!

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    GusCruz
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    I agree that it’s stupid, but maybe that’s pushing it just a bit too far?

    LOL. Maybe. Let’s replace the GD “tech team” with my 12-year old cousin then.

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    Riley
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    At least the Creative Arts might warn us via the editing categories whether we need to change our predictions:

    Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
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    Veep
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    AviChristiaans
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    I just watched a slugfest recently posted on Goldderby’s YouTube channel about how the new voting mechanism is displayed on mobile devices for the Directing categories. For instance, if you open the ballot for Comedy Series Directing, what you see is:

    MASTER OF NONE
    SILICON VALLEY
    SILICON VALLEY
    TRANSPARENT
    VEEP
    VEEP
    VEEP

    No episode or directors name. So if your intention is to vote for Silicon Valley or Veep, you have to click to open a tab and see what episode those equal options are representing. This is shockingly incompetent webdesign and simply outrageous. It simpy isn’t fair to the nominees, considering that the ranking system is no longer in place. I mean, the so-called Goldderby “tech team” that came up with the awful new predictions center could have probably designed something less stupid and biased. We’re talking about a majority of voters who are essentially dummies, folks.

    We will know that this messed up the “natural order of things” big time if GoT loses Directing.

    There is obvious confusion here that led to miscommunication.
    As per an Emmy voting friend:
    view.TelevisionAcademy.com displays the 6 shows nominated in the category, after which you have to select the nominee to actually be taken to the episode for viewing. You don’t vote or cast votes in the viewing platform. You simply watch the submitted episodes.

    vote.TelevisionAcademy.com on tablets and computers show the nominated show and its corresponding episode when you vote. It shows you which episode it is that you selected (episode title).

    It is not a blind vote. That is ridiculous. There is a difference between how the viewing platform looks and how the actual voting platform looks. It is not the same thing.

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