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  • Paul Sheehan
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    #435188

    The last show to cause such a commotion on the rialto was “The Producers.” In 2002, it broke the record for most Tony wins by taking home 12 (“Hello, Dolly!” had won 10 back in 1964). 

    Can “Hamilton” match that haul or do even better? 

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    Sam Coffey
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    Depends if the show is deemed to have a Leading Actress. Since the Tonys eliminated the Sound Design Tony, there are only 13 categories a new musical CAN win, so HAMILTON would have to sweep:

    1) Best Musical
    2) Best Director of a Musical
    3) Best Book
    4) Best Score
    5) Best Actor in a Musical
    6) Best Actress in a Musical
    7) Best Featured Actress in a Musical
    8) Best Featured Actor in a Musical 
    9) Best Orchestrations
    10) Best Choreography
    11) Best Costume Design
    12) Best Scenic Design
    13) Best Lighting Design 

    I could see it tying The Producers’ record, but even if Shoo is considered Lead, I’m not sure she would be able to win the category with that part.

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    SamEckmann
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    Hamilton could potentially tie The Producers for number of wins, but beating them will be hard. With Sound Design now defunct, Phillipa Soo will have to be nominated and win in the Lead Actress category. If the Tony Committee places her in Featured Actress instead, besting The Producer‘s record breaking year would be impossible, since Hamilton would only compete in 12 categories. 

    The real question is how many nominations will it get (more specifically how many actors get in). Id say Lead Actor x2 (Miranda and Odom Jr.), Featured Actor (Diggs), and Featured Actress (Goldsberry) are sure fire nominees. Can they get Phillipa Soo, Jonathan Groff, and Christopher Jackson nominated as well?

    I do wonder if its early bow will make acting wins difficult to come by. Danny Burstein will give some serious Lead Actor competition for Fiddler on the Roof (just ask a certain other formerly-biggest-Tony-Loser about starring in a Bart Sher revival of a classic), and Laura Benanti and Cynthia Erivo will be formidable in Lead Actress.  

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    adamunc
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    I could see Hamilton being vulnerable in scene design, since from what I’ve seen it’s kind of minimalist–appropriate, but not splashy. Nothing on the list of forthcoming shows immediately screams “Big sets!” like we had with King & I and American in Paris last season, but some shows are unknown quantities as yet.

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    prognosticator
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    I think Hamilton, as an ensemble piece, may only take a single acting award (I do see a possibility of both featured actor for Diggs and leading for Odom (I happen to think he walks away with the Broadway version)). I think Odom is the actor who’s probably most worthy of recognition. He gives a gorgeous performance. I think Soo will be petitioned into leading and lose to Cynthia Erivo. I think Jennifer Hudson may provide ample competition for Renee Elise Goldsberry, as will Lea Salonga and the other ladies from The Color Purple. The ladies don’t have as good of a chance I don’t think-and Hamilton focuses mainly on the men, so the voters may be more compelled to vote for them.

    Noms:

    Musical (win-no surprise there)
    Book (win-no surprise again)
    Score (win-quel suprise!)
    Director (even though in my heart I’d rather see Michael Arden get it for his brilliant, challenging direction of Spring Awakening, which is so beautiful)
    Choreography (win)
    Orchestrations (win)
    Set (win)
    Lighting (win)
    Costumes (win)
    Best Actor-Lin Manuel Miranda and Leslie Odom, Jr. (I think Odom gets it-they’ll honor Miranda in the other categories)
    Best Actress-Philippa Soo (nominated but loses, probably to Erivo)
    Best Featured Actor-Daveed Diggs (win…maybe) and Christopher Jackson (watch out for George Takei…popular guy)
    Best Featured Actress-Renee Elise Goldsberry (if the ladies from The Color Purple cancel each other out…Goldsberry may win…that’s a big if. Plus, Lea Salonga and some other ladies may provide competition, namely Jane Krakowski in “She Loves Me”.)

    That’s what I think will happen. 9-10 is my prediction. 11 at the most-and that’s if they take 3 out of the 4 acting categories…but those are chock full of performances that can provide competition.

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    OnTheAisle
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    I was surprised to see this story in the news this week. Can’t help but wonder if it will impact Hamilton‘s Tony chances?

    Writer and star Lin-Manuel Miranda was a guest on Buzzfeed’s “Another Round with Heben and Tracy” podcast when he revealed that his blockbuster Broadway musical is really about Kanye West when you stop and think about it.

    “Kanye kind of just showed up. It was the day, I think, ‘Life of Pablo’ was due, and he was in the second row with Kim,” the librettist explained about the night the rapper and his wife, 35, saw the musical last month. “There he was. There’s a moment where I just basically eye f—k whoever’s in the first two rows. And I wink at them and I’m like, ‘Hey.’ That’s my little fun times as Hamilton. And I just winked the hell out of Kanye because he was right in my blast zone!”

    It was during the show’s intermission when Miranda told West that the musical is actually all about him.

    “At intermission I came downstairs and said, ‘This whole show is about you,’” he said. “It’s all about you, and Washington’s Jay Z. And you started writing for Jay Z before you struck out on your own. Like it’s all about you. And Kim was like, ‘And the three sisters [gasp]!’ And I was like, ‘Yes, and the three sisters. It’s all about you.’”

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    FreemanGriffin
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    I am predicting that Hamilton will get 17 nominations (7 in the acting categories, since I think Jasmine Cephus Jones, Jonathon Groff and Christopher Jackson will join Miranda, Odom, jr, Diggs and Goldsberry). Savion Glover vs. Andy Blankenbuehler is going to be a supenseful Tony category. Hamilton will win for Musical, Book, Score, Odom, Jr. for Actor (over Burstein), Diggs and Goldsberry (over Hudson), Orchestrations… not sure about the design awards or Choreography….  so at least 7 and up to 11 awards.

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    Madson Melo
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    7 acting nominees? What? What is the record for most acting noms at the Tonys? For musical or a play?

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    In regards to the Lead Actor in a Musical category, I think it’s possible that both Lin-Manuel Miranda and Leslie Odom, Jr. could split the vote.

    Sure, Lin is more likely going to be acknowledged in the writing categories, but that doesn’t mean Tony voters are gonna vote for Odom, Jr. instead. Plus, I think the problem with Odom, Jr. is that he’s really more of a co-lead in the show and not even the title character.

    I’m just saying that I think the Lead Actor in a Musical award could be one of those categories where Tony voters may feel they’d like to spread the wealth a litte. 

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    7 acting nominees? What? What is the record for most acting noms at the Tonys? For musical or a play?

    I think that The Producers and the original Compay are tied with the most acting nominations for a musical with 6 each.  The Producers had 2 lead actor, 3 featured actor, 1 featured actress nominations.  Company had 1 lead actor, 2 lead actress, 1 featured actor and 2 featured actress nominations.  A few have had 5 (the original productions of Cabaret, A Little Night Music and Les Miserables, Billy Elliot, Fun Home, Spamalot, I’m sure quite a few others), but it was surprisingly difficult to find this out.  I could be super wrong, so please correct me if anyone knows better!

    The Coast of Utopia and Angels in America: Millenium Approches have the most acting nominations for a play with 5 each as far as I’m aware.

    I’m expecting Hamilton to at least tie or maybe even break this record.  Lin-Man, LOJ, and Renee are absolutely getting nominated.  Most likely I see combination of 2 of Daveed, Chris Jackson and Groff getting in to featured.  Phillipa in lead actress seems pretty likely for a nomination at this point as well.  The real question is if all 3 featured men can make it in, and I didn’t even consider Jasmine as a possiblity in featured until I read it on the boards.  She will definitely have an uphill climb because featured actress is way more stacked than featured actor, but I wouldn’t rule it out.  That makes 8 fairly possible acting nominations with what I imagine to be 6 actually getting in.

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    OnTheAisle
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    7 acting nominees? What? What is the record for most acting noms at the Tonys? For musical or a play?

     

    There were seven acting nominations (2 actors, 1 actress, 1 supporting actor, and 3 supporting actresses) for Best Musical Tony winner Jerome Robbins Broadway. I am fairly certain that holds the Tony record for most acting nominations in a musical.

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    Madson Melo
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    Thanks for the infos, people. I’m shocked by the amount of nominations for Company and Jerome Robbins’ Broadway. Producers and both Angels/Utopia are not really surprising.

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    tylerbeals1
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    I knew I was going to miss a big one lol.  Thank you for correcting me!

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