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| Jun 3rd 2012, 20:37 |
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| He definitely has a tape if he manages a nomination. | |
| Jun 3rd 2012, 22:44 |
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When I saw that the Jacquemettons had this episode, I braced myself, like oh shit, here we go. Something's going down tonight. But I wouldn't have pictured all of that happening. They're really pulling out all the stops for these last episodes. Great foreshadowing with the sketch of Don's noose from earlier in the season, and I immediately thought of "5G" for Don again. Lane's embezzlement storyline thankfully was leading to something significant. I'm still not sold on Weiner, Jr. (will probably never be), but Kiernan Shipka made up for most of that in another fine showcase.
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| Jun 3rd 2012, 23:30 |
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Hell's bells. That was harrowing. Those final couple of minutes, I honestly didn't know what was going to happen. Can't remember the last time I felt that way about a drama series. What was Roger's spectacular line to Don? "I'll buy you a drink if it wipes the blood from your mouth." "I knew I shoulda taken that left turn at Albuquerque." |
| Jun 3rd 2012, 23:37 |
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| People are finally jumping on the bandwagon. | |
| Jun 3rd 2012, 23:43 |
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Great episode for the cast, especially Harris and Hamm. The last few minutes were intense and a strong payoff for the embezzlement storyline. I was not terribly fond of Sally becoming a woman, however the rest of the episode more than made up for that weak storyline. Is Harris competing in guest actor or supporting actor? This was a strong showcase for him and it would make him highly competitive, particularly in the former category. |
| Jun 3rd 2012, 23:45 |
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| This was dessert. But the main course thus far has been only OK to good at best. I've had shits better than the first 8 episodes of this season. Last two episodes were stunning and this season really reminds me of season 3... another season Breaking Bad should have won. | |
| Jun 3rd 2012, 23:59 |
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Breaking Bad still deserves to win this year, it was much much more superior than mad men, I don't see mad men beating it even if Don dies, or kills someone and then cry the hell out about it or Hendricks cry or Moss or Slatery put a gun on his head and says he's gonna do the same Lane did, it doesn't deserve to win drama series, Breaking Bad does. But the episode apart was amazing, I really felt very very sorry for Lane, he was a outstanding supp.actor and deserve a nod, maannn I believe this year will be the best for supporting actor in many years, so many fine performances...However I think the writers missed a lot of opportunities here with Don, he showed absolutely no guilty at all I was waiting for him to fall apart because he was actually guilty for Lane's death eventhough anyone would've done the same, maybe not so guilty... this is another A episode, but again, do not have the quality of last Breaking Bad's season and this are two completely different shows.
Jake M. Johnson, New Girl - Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series
Jonathan Banks, Breaking Bad - Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series Michael Cudlitz, Southland - Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series |
| Jun 4th 2012, 07:42 |
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I thought that was mostly lame with the exception of the harrowing final five minutes. Lane barely appeared in this season, and his misfortune was only hinted to. The writers didn't earn his suicide, though seeing his cold, blue body hanging from his office door. The rest of the episode was blah, though it gave me pleasure seeing Betty get some revenge out of her daughter's pussy blood. Also, Mad Men's third season was better than Breaking Bad's third, only slightly better but better. Season three was the worst season of BB with "One Minute" saving it from being total waste. Also, this is an Emmy forum, so people will compare shows. BB, Homeland and Luck are still the season's best dramas, and I don't think the finale will alter that. |
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| Jun 4th 2012, 08:05 |
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See, I actually enjoyed Sally's date with creepy Glen and that whole bit and I also enjoyed the meeting with Ken's Father in Law and the scene before where Ken told Roger he would help if it means Pete gets to be nowhere near the account. Like I said earlier, I probably need to watch it again but I was less annoyed when they were laying the subtext on too thick than usual and felt they did it's justice. But the parallel between "Dick's" brother hanging himself because he couldn't trust him and Lane hanging himself because Don couldn't trust him (or forgive him) was haunting. I felt the tension and the build up the entire episode. I do agree that the suicide wasn't necessarily earned but it was executed well. I feel like Weiner told us a lot more about the whys in Lane's sit down with Don when they probably could have just shown us the loan he took out and his financial problems earlier in the season. But it is a minor issue because I felt this episode as a stand alone executed it pretty damn well. And Season Three of Mad Men was plodding and pedantic save for the final few and 'Guy' which has always been overrated in my opinion. And Sunset was an excellent precursor to One minute and Half Measures and Full Measure are largely considered the best penultimate/finale combo in some time. |
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| Jun 4th 2012, 08:14 |
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Ya, found this episode a little boring, but once I started thinking "is Lane going to kill himself?", it became very interesting. Any screentime for Betty Draper is welcome and watching Don get his fire back was interesting. Megan leaves the first, then Peggy flies the coup, now Lane...how is this all going to hit Don in the finale? The show totally has 6 tapes to pull off another win. I'm sure the finale will be solid so, that, the last 2 episodes, plus I'd say the first episode with Betty, the LCD episode, and maybe Joan's other big episode kicking her husband out. |
| Jun 4th 2012, 08:17 |
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I didn't mind the rest of the storylines here, but they weren't up to snuff considering that this was the preultimate installment. I also took issue with Hamm's acting. This was supposed to be his tape, but he just doesn't seem there any longer. I didn't like any of those three episodes as much as others. I thought Breaking Bad's third season was just as plodding and that other word that's starting to become overused as Mad Men's third season. Mad Men just had more great episodes and imo a stronger finish. I'll take "Shut the Door, Have a Seat", "The Gypsy and the Hobo", "Seven Twenty Three" and "Guy" over any of BB's season three episodes with of course the exception of "One Minute". |
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| Jun 4th 2012, 08:30 |
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I would take 'Fly' over 'Guy' but that's just me. I remember watching Don suddenly being all puffed out chested wanting the bigger accounts willing to fire people on a whim (Ken, not Lane)and thinking it was an indirect result of Peggy no longer being there. Her presence was sorely missed and I really do feel as though she kept him grounded but possibly held him back as well. I'm not going to go as far as to say Lane would still be alive had she not left but his sense of betrayel was a buzzin' and may have been a little more tenuous and less forgiving than had she just not left him to work for his rival. Anyway, I enjoyed it and thought Hamm's acting was fine as I always do. I don't believe I ever thought he deserved them Emmy. I probably picked him last year(can't remember who I settled on) because he had the baitiest performance but I know I prefered Olyphant and Laurie. |
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| Jun 4th 2012, 08:31 |
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So far for reels I'd go with: A: "A Little Kiss, Parts 1 & 2" B: "Signal 30"/"Far Away Places" C: "The Other Woman"/? We'll see how "The Phantom" is and if it should fill out the final slot. "Mystery Date" wouldn't be a terrible choice either. Once the season is done, I may change my mind, especially on "Little Kiss". "How is a Lorax-blowing tree-hugger like you anti-immigration?"--Sterling Archer |
| Jun 4th 2012, 08:35 |
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| Hamm was excellent throughout season three and deserved a win. Since he's been mostly awkward and dull. Not sure if it's the writing, Hamm or both. | |
| Jun 4th 2012, 10:13 |
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I want to see how Don handles this new loss to the firm in the finale (if he spills the beans about Lane's resignation or Lane's letters do it for him), and especially how this horrific event with the noose mirrors his brother's death from season 1. Maybe Don's reaction to Lane's embezzlement scheme wouldn't have been so severe had Peggy been around (and the "betrayal" of her leaving not as looming), but Don's still Don, and he was forgiving as he could have been about things and at least prompted Lane to start over in the way that he did years ago. I've been off and on about Jared Harris on the show's run, but as a swansong, he did an incredible job in showing Lane's palpable descent into suicidal despair. And didn't Pete or Howard make a point earlier in the season that the firm doesn't pay out for suicides after three years? Yikes. The comedic touches in the episode were great and necessary (the continued jabs at the inept Jaguar model not working properly with Lane's first attempt and the barbershop scene, Sally and Glen at the museum ("I'll be waiting for you in Africa"), Roger's "blood" line after Don's pitch to Ken's father-in-law, Ken edging Pete out at Roger's meeting, Joan's corrections at the partners' meeting, and Betty's smirk after getting the upper hand with Sally again from Megan). Sally's storyline with "becoming a woman" right at the time of Glen's date was a nice counter to all that was going on with Lane. I'm not entirely sold on the Glen character or Weiner Jr., so having him get so much precious screentime at this late point in the season was somewhat weird. I guess it was too soon to get a "checking in" scene with Peggy. Moss might not enter into the picture until next season with all that's going on now. The Jacquemettons did a great job with this episode all the same. Depending on how the season finale works out, this could make a stellar third reel with "The Other Woman." They have their six tapes to win drama series again by a comfortable margin this year. Grade for "Commissions & Fees": A-
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