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| Jun 10th 2012, 21:54 |
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When Peggy saw the dogshumping I started peeing in my pants. |
| Jun 10th 2012, 22:00 |
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I completely agree. I have caught up on the last 7 episodes over the past week and am just blown away. I will be posting much more detailed thoughts soon. |
| Jun 10th 2012, 23:26 |
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The way that scene with Don walking with that film stage on the background was shot, that's masterful.
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| Jun 11th 2012, 00:41 |
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I'm glad the episode toned down in comparison. But with the other season finales, the sense of hope is a lot less evident here- other than the new floor plan. Glad to see Peggy back already. Knowing she's gone makes me treasure the Don/Peggy scenes even more. Love that the last scene reminisce the first scene of the series with Don in a bar. It's almost even shot that the same way. Please tell me we don't have to wait another 18 months for season 6..... |
| Jun 11th 2012, 09:09 |
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This was a very good episode of television. From the perspective of a season finale it wasn't very satisfying. No revelations or admissions or confrontations. They focused on things I couldn't care less about like Pete's affair and Megan's acting ambitions. However, it was so well executed here that I ended up even being engaged by those aspects. This is the first time that this show will be worthy of winning the directing Emmy more than the writing. Would give him the award for either though. Still think this is just the third or fourth best drama of season. It felt more like the groudwork for future seasons rather than a complete and satisfying set of episodes. Still think it's the front-runner for drama series. When it wins again I won't be too miffed. It'll be more deserving than than last year's victory. series tapes: "Signal 30" and "At the Codfish Ball" "Lady Lazarus" and "The Other Woman" "Commisions and Fees" and "The Phantom" |
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| Jun 11th 2012, 10:14 |
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That was an excellent hour of Television. Every scene had me completely engaged and while it didn't like a season finale much to me I love where everything is going. Don possibly reverting back to his old ways, Peggy about to get Virginia Slims, Pete finally hitting bottom and admitting he's unhappy only to have his wife give him the permission for the apartment in the city, the new office (that incredible scene of the five partners staring out of the window was awesome), it all works for me. I don't care much for Megan and her petulance but it does appear Don has a pattern of finding women that never actually grow up. And I loved that they acknowledged Dick's brother and the obvious guilt that Don was harboring over Lane's suicide. And I truly love Peggy/Don scenes, especially when the employer/employee dynamic is removed from their situation. And Pete's monologue about his "friend" was incredible. What a scene for Kartheiser. The episode is still fresh and a lot was going on but I enjoyed it thoroughly. I think Mad Men definitely has a shot to win because they have enough good tapes to win series but I am not putting them out in front ahead of Homeland or Breaking Bad. Mainly because five in a row when there are such strong viable options seemed unlikely to me but stranger things have happened. I agree with Brilly in terms of what the series tapes should be. |
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| Jun 11th 2012, 10:15 |
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Ya, it started out really boring. I was bored to tears for the first half saying "nothing is really happening", but it amped up towards the end with the nice wrap-up of Pete's storyline and Don getting work for Megan. I actually DON'T like that we saw Peggy. I think leaving the audience guessing as to whether or not Peggy would be back would have been much more intriguing as a leadoff for season 6. Having Don and Peggy back together so quickly didn't have much impact. Them running into each other several episodes from now would have had much more profound. Another great season of Mad Men, but I don't get how anyone could call this season this best one yet. This didn't have the clear storytelling or great aches that previous seasons have had. |
| Jun 11th 2012, 10:23 |
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| This was hardly the best season, but it was... wait for it.... solid. It gave me hope that this show still has great days ahead. But they'll likely never surpass or meet the brilliance of seasons one and two. | |
| Jun 11th 2012, 10:29 |
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They're bound to submit the inexplicably acclaimed "Far Away Places", maybe even the premiere. I hope they screw up the tapes. As good as this show has been and can still be sometimes, five drama series wins in a row is too much. |
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| Jun 11th 2012, 10:46 |
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| I think this season was better than seasons three and four but only slightly better than season three. Like season three, this season finished on an incredibly strong note but had stronger first half. However, a lot of this season felt disjointed and unsure of where it wanted to go so there was a lot of what felt lilke fluffer including "Far Away Places" that seemed to be probably the most pointless episode of the season. But the last three episodes and Signal 30 were special episodes that meant something and played out beautifully in the season long narrative. | |
| Jun 11th 2012, 10:51 |
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Disjointed and the lack of focus is my issue with these past couple seasons. This season had more dynamic moments and far less dismissable moments. Still say "The Other Woman" was the lone truly great episode. I think Weiner is trying to slow everything down. He was willing to shake things up in the first few seasons. Now he's playing more safe. |
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| Jun 11th 2012, 14:18 |
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Good Matt Weiner "Monday Morning after" interview: http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/11/the-mad-men-season-finale-series-creator-matthew-weiner-discusses-the-phantom/?src=tp (apologies, I can't make the link button work) I've rethought my series tape and agree with BI: "Signal 30" and "At the Codfish Ball" "Lady Lazarus" and "The Other Woman" "Commisions and Fees" and "The Phantom" I honestly thought VIncent Kartheiser had the stronger season of all the supporting cast. I realize that this has little to do with how actual Emmy nominations work but it's a pity he isn't considered because he wasn't considered in the past. I think Matt Weiner wrote a strong season for him.
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| Jun 11th 2012, 20:27 |
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Unfortunately I don't think he'll get a nod, I love the character and the actor is very good but aparently the one who has a better shot besides Slaterry is Harris, I believe he can outshine Kartheiser and steal that supporting nod, and he actually deserves it in my opinion. Kartheiser will get a nod and maybe a win before this show ends, that scene on the train and his monologue were spectacular.
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| Jun 12th 2012, 08:20 |
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This was a low-key season finale, but I guess after two explosive back-to-back episodes like "The Other Woman" and "Commissions & Fees," they're allowed to take a breather and let things brew a bit toward next season. It wasn't quite up to par with their first three season enders, but this was so much better than "Tomorrowland," and I'd guess/hope that Matthew Weiner will be in serious running for directing in a drama series Emmy for this episode, among others. They seemed to hit the nail fairly hard here with closing out the season's themes of disillusionment, isolation, and unhappiness. As great as it was to see Jay Paulson again as Adam (I thought he was Emmy-worthy in "5G" from season 1), I think I'd rather just seen him in flashbacks or something, or if he had to pop up everywhere in Don's head as mirroring for Lane's death, just keep it at SCDP. The rotting tooth symbolism was a bit much too. It was also a letdown seeing so much of Alexis Bledel's character at the expense of other more vital characters. This is another major finale that's used the plot device of shock treatments to wash out characters' prior memories (and plot lines for that matter). That was one of things that bugged me a lot about "Homeland"'s convenient and blah season finale, and I felt some of that here too. Pete's speech in the hospital room was stunning though. That line about thinking he would know things as he got older that younger people wouldn't as a justification for aging was stellar. One of Vincent Kartheiser's best moments this season. Megan's acting career woes didn't interest me too much, though the little double-cross she pulled on her friend to get Don to vouch for her commercial audition was interesting. Little does she know that with another wife using Don to advance her life in some way, in Don's warped head it gives him leeway to sever ties and go back to his very tiresome adulterous ways. Don's walkout from Megan's commercial set to the bar to the fadeouts of the ensemble . . . wow. I had to watch that entire sequence again, and it had an even greater impact on second view, especially with the closing music. And we get naked Roger and dogs humping? How about that? I think I'd agree that I'd rather seen Peggy next season instead of now, though the movie theater scene with Peggy and Don was great, and I really want Peggy to hit it big with the Virginia Slims campaign. Loved Julia Ormond again as Megan's mother. She has such an effortless and jaded way about her that's fascinating to watch, and her scenes opposite John Slattery are routinely strong. I swear if Bledel gets into guest actress drama before Ormond does, ugh. After tonight, I'd even give Embeth Davidtz a shot there for that scene where she said everything we were thinking to Don about egging on Lane's ambition and that hush money not nearly being enough of what he owed Lane. The scene of the partners at the new digs was indeed stunning and iconic. They've set things up well for next season, and I think they've done everything necessary to win drama series again. I don't think Jon Hamm has a competitive tape sadly, but Christina Hendricks sure does, and Jared Harris for that matter. I know that their best shot in supporting actor is always with John Slattery, who earned his Emmy nomination just as much as Harris and Karthesier did this season, but it would have been cool to see a "West Wing" effect take shape here where multiple tape submissions could have propelled someone to that Emmy podium. It's time already! Jessica Paré had a very memorable run this season, but I think she should have been submitted in supporting actress for a legitimate shot at a nod. Elizabeth Moss should be able to get into lead actress again with "The Other Woman." January Jones really should have dropped down to guest actress drama given her slight screentime and impact this season. There's a few chances to be had in guest acting: Robert Morse (again), Julia Ormond, and Alexis Bledel look to be the best hopes. Writing and directing nods are highly attainable. I should look over the ballots soon before they're taken down to see what's going on there. I think they have more than six tapes competitive to win drama series again. I'd submit "Signal 30"/"Far Away Places"; "At the Codfish Ball"/"Lady Lazarus"; "The Other Woman"/"Commissions & Fees." There's also "A Little Kiss" (Parts 1 & 2), "Mystery Date," and "The Phantom" that could be competitive alternates. This was a great season overall (save for the awful by their standards "Tea Leaves"), and I can't wait to see what's next for them. Grade for "The Phantom": B Season Average: A-
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| Jun 12th 2012, 09:40 |
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I still prefer Harris and Slattery. Kartheiser was very good here, but until this finale his underdeveloped subplot was annoying and he wasn't very impressive in it. I'd nominate no supporting male player from Mad Men this season. |
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