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May 29th 2012, 12:11
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Sunday always feels a little... structured and planned to me. I love some of the songs, particularly "Sunday" and "Move On", but as a dramatic work I've always found it lacking. I would have totally voted for La Cage.

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May 29th 2012, 13:33
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La Cage all the way. Its too much fun.
Jun 6th 2012, 16:07
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So, before we have the Tonys this Sunday and we have a discussion about any possible joyous or terrible feelings we have about any winners (or losers), I thought of a new topic that I am  curious to see what you all think:

What do you think of people winning Tonys for very brief stage performances?

Examples:
Peg Murray (this one is debatable) for CABARET

Ronald Holgate for 1776 (this one is interesting because of his co-star William Daniels being nominated in Featured and refusing the nom since he was the show's lead and felt he was commiting category fraud, so that left two PROMISES, PROMISES men and Ronald Holgate, who in 1776, sings only one song and speaks a scant few lines otherwise and is gone before the show is halfway over).

That same year, Marian Mercer won Featured Actress for PROMISES PROMISES for playing Marge MacDougall...a drunken prospect for Chuck who appears in the first minutes of Act II, sings a duet with Chuck, and is pretty much gone. But the role is a scene-stealer as Katie Finneran won her second Tony for it over such people as Angela Lansbury.

Marilyn Cooper is perhaps the most famous example of a short performance winning a Tony as she appears near the end of the second act for (maybe) 15 minutes if not has to be about 10. What helped her out was her droll comedic delivery that stood out amongst the rest of the show's humor and she basically stole the entire act with "The Grass is Always Greener". Add in that she was a true veteran and she copped a win.

Any more examples you can think of? 

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Jun 6th 2012, 18:51
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2 of Audra McDonald's 4 wins were for relatively short amounts of stage time - Ragtme (1998) and Master Class (1996). Adrian Lenox won for less than 10 minutes in Doubt. All well deserved.
Jun 7th 2012, 06:48
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I can't believe I didn't think of Audra McDonald OR Adrianne Lenox! I saw RAGTIME and DOUBT and Lenox's work in the latter was definitely worthy of a Tony...she was just as good as Cherry Jones. In the case of Audra in RAGTIME, she seems to be a huge focal point in the last half of Act One, but yes she is barely in the first half of Act One and, of course, is only featured in "Sarah Brown Eyes" and the finale in Act II....nonetheless, it was one of the best performances I had seen in a musical. Your Daddy's Son is enough said.
Jun 7th 2012, 10:38
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Whereas characters like Marge McDougall in Promises, Promises and Mrs. Muller in Doubt have great material that allow the actresses playing them to make a big impact with limited stage time, Audra McDonald recieved no such help with Ragtime or Master Class, in my opinion. Having seen other productions of those shows, you might not understand how the roles she played would get awards attention (and in their subsequent Broadway revivals, haven't). It's really a credit to what she brings as an actress to those roles. Extremely well deserved wins.
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Audra should give her tony for Ragtime to Tsidii Le Loka for the The Lion King.
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Quote by Djoko84
Audra should give her tony for Ragtime to Tsidii Le Loka for the The Lion King.



Not disagreeing with you, but its going to be a very unpopular choice around these parts..   
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Quote by Djoko84
Audra should give her tony for Ragtime to Tsidii Le Loka for the The Lion King.



Not disagreeing with you, but its going to be a very unpopular choice around these parts..   


I'm actually glad someone said it!  I love Audra and she was AMAZING in Ragtime.  But I thought Tsidii Le Loka was just as amazing in The Lion King.  She was the best part of the show for me.  So I don't know who I would have voted for.

I've only seen three of Audra's four winning performances (didn't see Master Class), and I think her best one is Carousel.  She was brilliant.  But my favorite performance of hers all-together is 110 In the Shade.  I will never forget that end of Act one for as long as I live. 
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Tsidii Le Loka would have had my vote as well. 110 in the Shade is probably the best I've seen Audra, I think the only one I've missed was Master Class, I prefer her in that than Porgy and Bess but I don't think she stood a chance against Ebersole.
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I expect that the Audra love train is going to be leaving the station tonight with a fifth Tony in tow.  But before all that, I'd like to say a word about Jan Maxwell.  I saw "Follies" again on Friday night, and she nearly brought me to tears.  I've seen a few other productions of the show with very talented actors, but I never really understood Phyllis until now.  What Maxwell brought to her was not just her resilience but also the agony that her marriage to Ben has brought her.  As "Loveland" begins and she wanders confused among all these happy singers, the tears that she begins to shed seem to come so deep within her, a depth of feeling that she repeatedly demonstrates throughout the entire show.  I know it's said every year, but I do believe that, in another year, this would be (and deserves to be) a Tony Award-winning performance.  With this production of "Follies" now in the history books, I can look forward to her next role but be very grateful to the power that she brought to this one.
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NO FAIR! I WANT NEWSIES TO WIN BEST MUSICAL!Flamming THOSE TONY VOTERS ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF DISNEY HATING SNOBS!Flamming NOW MY DREAM OF NEWSIES WINNING A TONY AWARD FOR BEST MUSICAL HAS BEEN CRUSHED AND IT'S ALL ONCE"S FAULT!Flamming 

For those you think Newsies is the worst show, THAN TAKE THIS PHILISTINES!Shoot 

I'm not crazy, I'm heart broken.Cry 
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It was a weak year for Broadway musicals (it sounds like next season may be way more promising or at least offer a lot more variety), but a lot of the wins this year were very well deserved (I do think Audra McDonald winning was very deserved but at the same time, feel Jan Maxwell was worthy of the win, and she is also the definitive Phyllis for me now).

Wins like James Corden over Phillip Seymour Hoffman are wonderful as they didn't go for the big name and went with a truly wonderful comedic performance (that Tony moment with him was brilliant)....it is a shame that they went for Catherine Zeta Jones in '10 because I personally think that Christiane Noll, Sherie Rene Scott, and Kate Baldwin were all more worthy than her.

I can't complain about any of the wins as the best shows/people won over all but the musical quality this year was lackluster (though not as empty as 1999/2000 or 2009/2010....and at least 2009/2010 had 4 very strong revivals and one good one....this year had two...and both of them had several issues).

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Also, I don't necessarily think the Tonys hate Disney...sure they didn't give the win to "Beauty and the Beast" or "Mary Poppins" or didn't nominate the (unworthy) "Tarzan" or "Little Mermaid"...but they did give the win to "The Lion King", which I still think is one of the hugest injustices in Tony history (I prefer "Ragtime" by a thousand miles).

I do feel that I would have given "Beauty and the Beast"  the Tony for Musical and Score over "Passion". My reasoning is that "Passion" contains some strong acting showcases and a true tour-de-force by Donna Murphy. The show was beautiful and unique and had a very strong book....but what hurt the show for me was Sondheim's score. It was often flowery and, even, beautiful, but it was also often very forgettable and not a show I have the desire to sit down and listen to on many (if any) ocassions. I do feel the show has so many stronger aspects that make it a strong evening of Theatre (acting, book) but "Beauty and the Beast" has a very memorable score (still my favorite from anything that is Disney besides "Mary Poppins", even though I HATED its Broadway incarnation) and is a much easier show to listen to, plus it has major spectacle (which normally doesn't matter to me).

"Passion" is a show that my brain wants to vote for but "Beauty and the Beast" is my heart vote...and in this case, I think I would vote for my heart strictly because I found it to have the stronger score and it is better entertainment. Will I ever change my mind? I have in the past.

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I've only seen three of Audra's four winning performances (didn't see Master Class), and I think her best one is Carousel.  She was brilliant.  But my favorite performance of hers all-together is 110 In the Shade.  I will never forget that end of Act one for as long as I live. 


Amen. That moment was doubly sad for me--not only was Audra riveting and heartbreaking during "Old Maid", but I also knew she would lose the Tony to Ebersole.

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