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Jun 13th 2012, 16:20
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I was reviewing some clips on You Tube, and something occurred to me.  Standing ovations are such strangely irregular occurrences at the Oscars, especially in the competitive acting categories.  Some years go by there are no sustained ovations, as in last year with Firth, Portman, Leo, and Bale. Other years, like this past year with everyone but Dujardin, there are multiple ovations.

I went back and looked at the occurrences of standing ovations throughout the years.  It seems as though the first one I can find is Art Carney's win in 1974.  There wasn't another one until 1988 when Dustin Hoffman won for Rain Man.  Since then there have been Standing O's in 1989(Day-Lewis), 1991-1994(Hopkins, Pacino, Hanks x2), 1996(Rush), 1998(Benigni), 2001-2004(Washington, Brody, Penn, Foxx), 2008-2009(Penn and Bridges), for a total of 15 occurrences.

Best actress has been much rarer.  The first being 1985 when Geraldine Page won.  Then 1987(Cher), 1989(Tandy), 1995-96(Sarandon, McDormand), 2001(Berry), 2008-2009(Winslet, Bullock), 2011(Streep), for a total of nine occurrences. 

Some questions to consider: Why do they occur? Are there times where there should ahve been one when there wasn't? 
Jun 13th 2012, 17:17
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Standing ovations are given when a veteran wins an Oscar (Bridges), when somebody makes history (Brody, Plummer, Berry), when an actor who overcomes extensive "personal issues" wins (Mo'Nique) or when there's a great success story behind the win

Rarely do you see a Frances McDormand-esque standing ovation where it is given for a truly great performance instead of for just being a name. I'm still surprised that Javier Bardem, Christoph Waltz and Christian Bale did not receive standing O's for their incredible performances.

One standing ovation that I cannot explain is Octavia Spencer. She was not a veteran, her win did not make history and she didn;t have any public personal issues. Octavia wasn't even the best supporting actress in The Help (let alone of the whole year) so the standing o was not on merit either.

I am also surprised that Day-Lewis was not given a standing ovation for There Will Be Blood. It was the greatest film performance in a long time and he had received an ovation for his first win for My Left Foot. Rarely do actors who receive a standing ovation the first time not get it for the second (a la Tom Hanks). 
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Jun 13th 2012, 17:50
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Also, Don Ameche and Sean Connery received standing ovations when they won....and those were definitely "Please stand for the veteran" ovations....oh and didn't Jack Nicholson get one for Terms of Endearment? (If so, I don't understand that one).

I think Octavia Spencer's standing ovation could be based on the role itself and how it was really a breakthrough role for her, but while she was definitely a memorable aspect in the film, I think I was just as impressed with Bryce Dallas Howard and Emma Stone, and even more so with Viola Davis and Jessica Chastain.

One person I wish had gotten a standing ovation was Marion Cotillard. 

And Meryl Streep not getting one for SOPHIE'S CHOICE is a little surprising to me. 
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At the time, many probably didn't realize how iconic Meryl was going to become and how long it would take for her to win her third.

Every acting winner in 2007 (2008 ceremony) deserved a standing O. I'm surprised Alan Arkin didn't receive one either. 
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Jun 13th 2012, 18:46
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Standing ovations are given when a veteran wins an Oscar (Bridges), when somebody makes history (Brody, Plummer, Berry), when an actor who overcomes extensive "personal issues" wins (Mo'Nique) or when there's a great success story behind the win

Rarely do you see a Frances McDormand-esque standing ovation where it is given for a truly great performance instead of for just being a name. I'm still surprised that Javier Bardem, Christoph Waltz and Christian Bale did not receive standing O's for their incredible performances.

One standing ovation that I cannot explain is Octavia Spencer. She was not a veteran, her win did not make history and she didn;t have any public personal issues. Octavia wasn't even the best supporting actress in The Help (let alone of the whole year) so the standing o was not on merit either.

I am also surprised that Day-Lewis was not given a standing ovation for There Will Be Blood. It was the greatest film performance in a long time and he had received an ovation for his first win for My Left Foot. Rarely do actors who receive a standing ovation the first time not get it for the second (a la Tom Hanks). 


If you have no insight into the matter, why call attention to it? Just makes you look petty.

BTW, Spencer definitely WAS the best supporting actress in THE HELP, unless you categorize Viola Davis as "supporting," like I do. I thought the rest were way too hammy, and not in a good way. But you seem to like hammy performances, what with your citing Bale, Waltz, etc.

PS: I am however intrigued by your claim that Day-Lewis delivered "the greatest film performance in a long time." Unfortunately, I don't recall anything about that film (fortunately I've laid off the "sauce" since then) so I will be sure to re-watch TWBB sometime soon. And I will be watching specifically to see if Day-Lewis is as good as you say...

Jun 13th 2012, 18:50
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Octavia's win is... urgh, méh
didn't deserved a standing ovation, at all.
Jun 13th 2012, 18:53
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Standing ovations are given when a veteran wins an Oscar (Bridges), when somebody makes history (Brody, Plummer, Berry), when an actor who overcomes extensive "personal issues" wins (Mo'Nique) or when there's a great success story behind the win

Rarely do you see a Frances McDormand-esque standing ovation where it is given for a truly great performance instead of for just being a name. I'm still surprised that Javier Bardem, Christoph Waltz and Christian Bale did not receive standing O's for their incredible performances.

One standing ovation that I cannot explain is Octavia Spencer. She was not a veteran, her win did not make history and she didn;t have any public personal issues. Octavia wasn't even the best supporting actress in The Help (let alone of the whole year) so the standing o was not on merit either.

I am also surprised that Day-Lewis was not given a standing ovation for There Will Be Blood. It was the greatest film performance in a long time and he had received an ovation for his first win for My Left Foot. Rarely do actors who receive a standing ovation the first time not get it for the second (a la Tom Hanks). 


Re your questioning of the standing ovation for Octavia Spencer: If you have no insight into the matter, why call attention to it? Just makes you look petty.

BTW, Spencer definitely WAS the best supporting actress in THE HELP, unless you categorize Viola Davis as "supporting," like I do. I thought the rest were way too hammy, and not in a good way. But you seem to like hammy performances, what with your citing Bale, Waltz, etc.

PS: I am however intrigued by your claim that Day-Lewis delivered "the greatest film performance in a long time." Unfortunately, I don't recall anything about that film (fortunately I've laid off the "sauce" since then) so I will be sure to re-watch TWBB sometime soon. And I will be watching specifically to see if Day-Lewis is as good as you say...
Jun 13th 2012, 21:15
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Octavia fully deserved her win, she was virtually one of the only good things about that movie, but her ovation was a head scratcher. Was it just me or did anyone else not know who the hell she was before they saw The Help?

It makes me sick that, that piece of trash woman beater Sean Penn got a standing O and Charlize, who undoubtly gave one of the greatest performances of the decade (or of all time), hardly got any applause.

Sandra Bullock shouldn't have gotten one either. Everyone who won in 2007 including Daniel and Marion deserved one, and Firth and Portman should've gotten one.
Jun 13th 2012, 21:21
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^^^I knew Octavia as the talking-lobster lady from "Dinner for Shmucks." And I agree that normally piles of shit like Sean Penn don't get standing ovations.

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Standing ovations are given when a veteran wins an Oscar (Bridges), when somebody makes history (Brody, Plummer, Berry), when an actor who overcomes extensive "personal issues" wins (Mo'Nique) or when there's a great success story behind the win

Rarely do you see a Frances McDormand-esque standing ovation where it is given for a truly great performance instead of for just being a name. I'm still surprised that Javier Bardem, Christoph Waltz and Christian Bale did not receive standing O's for their incredible performances.

One standing ovation that I cannot explain is Octavia Spencer. She was not a veteran, her win did not make history and she didn;t have any public personal issues. Octavia wasn't even the best supporting actress in The Help (let alone of the whole year) so the standing o was not on merit either.
 


I would say that Mo'Nique's standing ovation had little to do with her personal history and mostly to do with the powerhouse-ness of her performance.  She gave the most critically acclaimed performance of the year.  And it's the best win the category has ever seen, imo.  Plus, the fact that she surprised everyone and was a stand-up comedian and not considered a "great" "serious" actress and got such acclaim made her win very exciting.  I also think Christoph Waltz deserved a standing O for his win that year, but his win didn't seem to have as much excitement as Mo'Nique's did.

I think the standing O for Octavia was due to her truly genuine and heartfelt reaction (that night and all awards season).  Her reaction to her win was very moving.  I also think she was the best in her category a totally deserved it. 
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^^^I knew Octavia as the talking-lobster lady from "Dinner for Shmucks." And I agree that normally piles of shit like Sean Penn don't get standing ovations.

"talking-lobster lady"?? LOL! Guess you don't need a great resume to win an Oscar these days.
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Octavia probably got a standing O because she worked with many of the performers in the room. She's been in the business for a long time and is well liked in the industry. 
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Standing ovations are given when a veteran wins an Oscar (Bridges), when somebody makes history (Brody, Plummer, Berry), when an actor who overcomes extensive "personal issues" wins (Mo'Nique) or when there's a great success story behind the win

Rarely do you see a Frances McDormand-esque standing ovation where it is given for a truly great performance instead of for just being a name. I'm still surprised that Javier Bardem, Christoph Waltz and Christian Bale did not receive standing O's for their incredible performances.

One standing ovation that I cannot explain is Octavia Spencer. She was not a veteran, her win did not make history and she didn;t have any public personal issues. Octavia wasn't even the best supporting actress in The Help (let alone of the whole year) so the standing o was not on merit either.
 


I would say that Mo'Nique's standing ovation had little to do with her personal history and mostly to do with the powerhouse-ness of her performance.  She gave the most critically acclaimed performance of the year.  And it's the best win the category has ever seen, imo.  Plus, the fact that she surprised everyone and was a stand-up comedian and not considered a "great" "serious" actress and got such acclaim made her win very exciting.  I also think Christoph Waltz deserved a standing O for his win that year, but his win didn't seem to have as much excitement as Mo'Nique's did.

I think the standing O for Octavia was due to her truly genuine and heartfelt reaction (that night and all awards season).  Her reaction to her win was very moving.  I also think she was the best in her category a totally deserved it. 


AND it might have had to do with the fact that it took Octavia a little while to get up onto the stage.  So people felt inclined to stand as they saw others doing it and still had a while before she was going to speak.  Dujardin might had gotten a standing O, but he rushed up to the stage and started speaking pretty quickly.  
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Didn't Adrien Brody recieve a huge standing ovation from everyone? Was that because of the kiss or the upset he pulled? I didn't really know he was that big of an icon early in those days.
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Sean Penn may well be a shit in real life but he deserved standing ovations for his work in both MYSTIC RIVER and MILK.