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Which Lead Actor Winner Should Give Back His Oscar?
Jamie Fox, "Ray"
Jeff Bridges, "Crazy Heart"
John Wayne, "True Grit"
Kevin Spacey, "American Beauty"
Roberto Benigni, "Life Is Beautiful"
Paul Scofield, "A Man For All Seasons"
Robert Donat, "Goodbye Mr. Chips"
Cliff Robertson, "Charly"
Art Carney, ""Harry & Tonto"
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Jun 22nd 2012, 03:33
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The top 5 who should return their best actor oscars!!

ROBERTO BENIGNI- LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL
CHARLTON HESTON- BEN-HUR
JAMIE FOXX- RAY
SEAN PENN- MYSTIC RIVER
RUSSELL CROWE- GLADIATOR
Jun 22nd 2012, 07:28
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As much as I want to vote for Kevin Spacey here, there's Roberto Benigni's name staring me in the face, so I have to vote for him instead. One of the worst Oscar wins I've seen the Academy bestow to an actor.



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Jun 22nd 2012, 07:45
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As much as I want to vote for Kevin Spacey here, there's Roberto Benigni's name staring me in the face, so I have to vote for him instead. One of the worst Oscar wins I've seen the Academy bestow to an actor.


KEVIN SPACEY??? I didn't know people hated his performance OR the movie. Why? I think it's a masterpiece and his performance is absolutely marvellous.

What do you have against it? Who else do you think should have won?  
Jun 22nd 2012, 07:45
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As much as I want to vote for Kevin Spacey here, there's Roberto Benigni's name staring me in the face, so I have to vote for him instead. One of the worst Oscar wins I've seen the Academy bestow to an actor.


KEVIN SPACEY??? I didn't know people hated his performance OR the movie. Why? I think it's a masterpiece and his performance is absolutely marvellous.

What do you have against it? Who else do you think should have won?  
Jun 22nd 2012, 08:25
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As much as I want to vote for Kevin Spacey here, there's Roberto Benigni's name staring me in the face, so I have to vote for him instead. One of the worst Oscar wins I've seen the Academy bestow to an actor.


KEVIN SPACEY??? I didn't know people hated his performance OR the movie. Why? I think it's a masterpiece and his performance is absolutely marvellous.

What do you have against it? Who else do you think should have won?  


Yeah, Kevin Spacey. And "American Beauty" is no masterpiece. I don't feel like going into a long spiel over that awful film, but in that year for lead actor, I would have picked Russell Crowe for "The Insider."



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Jun 22nd 2012, 09:19
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What was so iconic about Jean Dujardin? The only iconic performance from last year's best actor nominees I could see was Gary Oldman because he was playing a famous character. And even then I would rank George Clooney in first. Dujardin in third. There was nothing iconic about The Artist. it was a very, very good movie that reminded us of a story in which hollywood destroyed half its generations of actors when it switched to sound. But there was nothing "iconic" about the movie itself or the performance.


Even the title itself "THE ARTIST" refers to and creates an iconic character, an actor who loses his livelihood during the transition to talkies. No other films (at least no recent films) or characters have explored this phenomenon. So yes, Dujardin delivered an iconic performance that is exactly as recognizable and memorable as Charlie Chaplin's "Little Tramp," Buster Keaton's "Great Stone Face," Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle, or Harold "Speedy" Lloyd.

I loved TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY along with Gary Oldman's performance, but Alec Guinness already gave us the definitive portrayal of George Smiley.

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What was so iconic about Jean Dujardin? The only iconic performance from last year's best actor nominees I could see was Gary Oldman because he was playing a famous character. And even then I would rank George Clooney in first. Dujardin in third. There was nothing iconic about The Artist. it was a very, very good movie that reminded us of a story in which hollywood destroyed half its generations of actors when it switched to sound. But there was nothing "iconic" about the movie itself or the performance.


Even the title itself "THE ARTIST" refers to and creates an iconic character, an actor who loses his livelihood during the transition to talkies. No other films (at least no recent films) or characters have explored this phenomenon. So yes, Dujardin delivered an iconic performance that is exactly as recognizable and memorable as Charlie Chaplin's "Little Tramp," Buster Keaton's "Great Stone Face," Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle, or Harold "Speedy" Lloyd.

I loved TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY along with Gary Oldman's performance, but Alec Guinness already gave us the definitive portrayal of George Smiley.


Alright... maybe we have different definitions of iconic. But I'd like to ask you something: In thirty years, do you really think people will remember Jean Dujardin as "one of the greats"? Is he really that memorable?

I'm not saying he isn't good. He is very good in The Artist. But it's not iconic, at least in my sense of the word. You could make a case about The Social Network being iconic. Maybe Avatar, No Country for Old Men, The Departed, Brokeback Mountain and The Lord of the Rings. But the reasons are almost always the same:
1 - Grossed a huge ammount of money at the box office AND was universally acclaimed (LOTR and Avatar)
2 - A Famous director finally gets an oscar (The Departed for Martin Scorsese, No country for old men for the Coen brothers)
3 - Unanimous critical acclaim and addressing of issues that are super timely and yet also timeless (Brokeback mountain with gays, even though the scandal with Crash probably helps it a bit & The Social Network with facebook)

You could make a case for films being iconic for their "revolutionizing" of a genre like Moulin Rouge! did in musicals which brought them back into the conversation and resulted in Chicago winning the year after.
Other movies that fit into those three groups could be (and I'm just running down the list of BP nominees):
1 - Titanic, The Godfather
2 - Schindler's List (Spielberg), Annie Hall (Woody Allen, he hadn't been nominated before but the fact that its the only bp winner of his career certainly helps it)
3 - Kramer vs Kramer

I was talking about the "iconic" status of a movie not about its quality, mind you. Nobody disagrees that Titanic is an iconic film (I hope) and yet a lot of people hate it. It's no less iconic because of that.
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I would rank Robert Donat among the three most DESERVING Best Actor winners of all time. Stewart in "Mr. Smith" has and deserves his fans, as does Gable in "Wind," but I have a very hard time believing that 90% or more of the people who cry "foul" on that race have actually seen Donat's performance. It truly is one of the most remarkable tour-de-force performances of the 1930s, and it only gets better, not weaker, with time.

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I would rank Robert Donat among the three most DESERVING Best Actor winners of all time. Stewart in "Mr. Smith" has and deserves his fans, as does Gable in "Wind," but I have a very hard time believing that 90% or more of the people who cry "foul" on that race have actually seen Donat's performance. It truly is one of the most remarkable tour-de-force performances of the 1930s, and it only gets better, not weaker, with time.



True, i have not seen Donat, but James Stewart is just so above and beyond what is considered a great performance in Mr Smith Goes to Washington. Clark Gable is in second place with an incredibly stunning performance as well in Gone With The Wind and I rooted for him in part 2 of the same movie (although I'm pretty sure most people did as well. The mesmerizing performance apart, Scarlet O'Hara in the second part of Gone With The Wind is nothing short of unlikable which makes the audience's empathy fall on Gable).
Jun 22nd 2012, 13:32
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I've seen Donat, and although he is very good, Gable and Stewart are better.
Jun 22nd 2012, 23:08
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I thought Dujardin was incredible but Fassebender was the best that year(and not even nominated)
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Jun 24th 2012, 08:30
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First off, I don't think Paul Scofield deserves to be on the list, and I agree Lee Marvin should be.  

It's also pretty easy to "excuse" any of those we can consider "lifetime" or "So sorry, we've overlooked you so any times in the past" awards.  (Wayne, Carney, Bridges, for example.)  

But of the choices given, I had to vote for Benigni, with Robertson and Spacey close behind.  A couple of others I'd throw into the mix are Denzel Washington for "Training Day" and Jeremy Irons for "Reversal of Fortune".  
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First off, I don't think Paul Scofield deserves to be on the list, and I agree Lee Marvin should be.  

It's also pretty easy to "excuse" any of those we can consider "lifetime" or "So sorry, we've overlooked you so any times in the past" awards.  (Wayne, Carney, Bridges, for example.)  

But of the choices given, I had to vote for Benigni, with Robertson and Spacey close behind.  A couple of others I'd throw into the mix are Denzel Washington for "Training Day" and Jeremy Irons for "Reversal of Fortune".  


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Jun 24th 2012, 10:39
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the question is not for me, but in the year that Spacey won for American Beauty was, imo, the best for the acting contenders. If you exclude Miss Streep for the best actress category, the other 19 candidates could have won and been great choices. In Spacey's category were Crowe in Insider, Washington in Hurricane, Penn in Sweet and Lowdown and Fainsworth in Straight Story, for me the 5 were great in their roles.