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| Jul 27th 2012, 18:57 |
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Okay here we go with the individual threads so we can neatly compile all analysis and discussions. Place your rankings, analysis, and explanations for the two drama supporting acting categories here. Also, don't forget to include and update them in the Gold Derby predictions center. Here are the nominees: BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR: Jim Carter - Downton Abbey ("Episode 2") Brendan Coyle - Downton Abbey ("Episode 7") Peter Dinklage - Game of Thrones ("Blackwater") Giancarlo Esposito - Breaking Bad ("Hermanos") Jared Harris - Mad Men ("Commissions and Fees") Aaron Paul - Breaking Bad ("End Times") BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Christine Baranski - The Good Wife ("Alienation of Affection") Joanne Froggatt - Downton Abbey ("Episode 7") Anna Gunn - Breaking Bad ("Cornered") Christina Hendricks - Mad Men ("The Other Woman") Archie Panjabi - The Good Wife ("The Dream Team") Maggie Smith - Downton Abbey ("Episode 1") Discuss. |
| Jul 27th 2012, 19:01 |
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Christina Hendricks, for sure!
We found love in a hopeless place... and now we shine like a diamond.
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| Jul 27th 2012, 19:54 |
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Nah, she aint winning. I'd be stoked if she did, though. |
| Jul 27th 2012, 20:38 |
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Does anyone have a link to Maggie Smith's submission?? |
| Jul 27th 2012, 21:44 |
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Joanne Froggatt Joanne Froggatt deals with the imprisonment of her husband in her episode. in the eisode submitted by Maggie Smith Bates leaves Anna. so she has two tapes in which she gets to do a lot of beautiful emotional scenes, a lot of crying which has payed off for some in the past ( Heigl, Jones). this races is the only acting race in which Downton has a chance.( Dockery winning over Danes is a long shot, Cranston's only worry Lewis, while neither Coyle nor Carter have any emotional fireworks in their episodes) so, if there is to be acting winner for Downton Abbey it is here. |
| Jul 28th 2012, 02:06 |
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Christina Hendricks is good in "The Other Woman" and would be a perfect winner but everytime I'm thinking about her as a winner with this episode, I usually have Sandra Oh on my mind. I just realized that Sandra's "weakest" episode in the 8th season of "Grey's Anatomy" was way much better than Hendrick's strongest. That's just really tell me everything about the Emmys. Oh with her strongest tape: "Support System" would be a real kick for this category...Sad that she didn't make it. But back for Hendricks. She's good and overdue. I think while Maggie Smith is Maggie Smith, it's time to give this award to Hendrics (also Maggie just won last year for the same performance...) Christina Hendricks did a good job this year and a good job in this episode and if we don't have a Sandra Oh type of performance in the category, well we have to cross our fingers to someone else. She's my girl. You can make it, Hendricks. |
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| Jul 28th 2012, 03:07 |
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I still don't think Hermanos is an Emmy winning episode and think this is a battle between the former winners still in the category. |
| Jul 28th 2012, 03:53 |
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I'll repost here: I've just finished watching all the tapes submitted for supporting actress in a drama series and they are a very good set of nominees because they were all smart in submitted their best. 1. Christina Hendricks, Mad Men ("The Other Woman") 2. Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey ("Episode #1") 3. Joanne Froggatt, Downton Abbey ("Episode #7") 4. Christine Baranski, The Good Wife ("Alienation of Affection") 5. Archie Panjabi, The Good Wife ("The Dream Team") 6. Anna Gunn, Breakng Bad ("Cornered") Gunn has made many BB fans happy by after four seasons receiving a nomination for her role as Skylar the unlikeable wife of Walter White. In her submtted episode even though it is her best of the season she ranks last because of one important thing which is screentime. Her first scene with Walt was strong and shows qualities of Carmela Soprano, then she disappers for 10 minutes to then show up for a quick scene where she flips a coin which is nothing really special, her final scenes comes around 20 minutes later where she returns home and tells walt to bring back the car. Skylar is not a fav character of mine but she is strong with the obvious screentime holding her back. Previous Winner Panjabi after two impressive win worthy seasons in a row had sort of a lack luster season as the writers decided to write more material for other characters that had been left behind. Even so she still got a few stanout episodes like her tape where we see Kalinda go all bad ass on a wall and the final shot of her waiting for her *SPOILER" Husband *END OF SPOILER*. This episode is strong for her, also in Baranski's submission it is like we see the normal Kalinda but because Kalinda in Panjabi's submission is very different we get two Kalinda's for the price of one. Baranski has been one of the characters that got left behind but this season on the show the writers gave her some excellent material even some weeks making her the MVP more often then ever. Her submitted episode was perfect as it revolved around her and she got some great scenes opposite the many men she worked with, her tape alone could be good enough for the win but unlike the abbey women her co-stars tape does not help her. I know putting Froggatt this high may be strange but when watching nearly three and a half hours of this show it was clear that she had the most screentime of anybody in this category even her co-star nominee like Smith. In her submitted episode which was a popular one for the series we see Anna as a grieving wife and she really does some strong work when finds news of Bates being guilty. Also in Smith's submissions she has more screentime like in the first half where we see the relationship with bates end at the start, then in the second half she is good but if voters judge on dramatic impact for Abbey girls Froggatt could be the big surprise of the night. Acting GOD Smith won in the miniseries/movie category for this role and it was a wrothy win. Everyone on these forums seem to think she has this in the bag but based on episodes they are wrong. In her submited episode (or episodes for the english) she is comic relief for us all especially the first half where she must fight with Thomas' mother and like always it is strong work from Smith. I thought that her work in the christmas was equally as strong even better because she is funny and heartwarming in so many scenes. Smith could win if voters get lazy but I think they will have many chances to give Smith the win but hopefully they do get lazy. I love smith so don't think I hate her. Previous nominee Hendricks returns with probably her best season of all five and her best submission up to date. In her episode we see Peter aproach Joan to ask her to sell herself for the company, you would think that she would say no which she does at first then to later swap her body for a partnership. This horrified me so much that Peter had no human emotion not caring what her was asking her to do. When Don comes to her home at first we think thank god her got to her in time but then when the get to the presentation duting Don's speech we see that the horrible event actually took place. Then straight after this we see that she has done the dead but Don only finds out later when shows up as a partner. I'd be so happy if she won but sometime tells me that the mad men acting curse may hold up, if they ever want to win this may be their best chance (I know I said that all last year about all the actors who could have easily won) Hendricks is my predictiction with Smith probably winninf with the dark horse being Joan Froggatt. |
| Jul 28th 2012, 07:02 |
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Drama Supporting Actress
Gunn is out and shouldn't even be here. Rose Byrne, Kelly MacDonald and even Morena Baccarin would have made a much more deserving nominee. Panjabi would have had a better submission with Bitcoins for Dummies, but like last year she chose an episode dealing with Kalinda's personal affairs rather than her profession. Afterall she won for that for the first season, so I don't know why she thinks the private Kalinda storyines would leave more impact. I don't watch DA and probably never will, especially not now that I know a couple of episodes are 2 hours long. (I can't focus that long on a TV episode, I assume I have ADHD). But judging by the love DA got by the Emmys and by the things I heard/read about her role, I think Froggatt is in a good position. But I cannot see her win over Smith who apparently is a delight, and afterall friggin' Dame Maggie Smith. Baranski had a wonderful season. The Kings gave her a lot to do, and for once her Emmy submission did not have to include Gary Cole. Her submission is probably my favorite of the line-up and her opening scene is quite beautiful as is her chemistry with the Australian guy. She's a great presence throughout and delivers a quiet, very nuanced performance. Hendricks has a fantastic storyline for her character in her submission and is center of the entire episode. Probably the strongest showcase for Joan that she's ever got and very impactful. She's definitely the biggest threat if voters don't want to reward Smith again for the same role. But I don't think they will pass this one up. Smith is a huge name, apparently delightful, and this might be a dull point, but I stick to the idea that this current winner pattern in this category will continue and therefore it is the turn of a veteran actress again.
Will win: Smith Biggest threat: Hendricks Personal choice: Baranski
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| Jul 28th 2012, 09:00 |
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Finally I've watched the rest of the drama supporting actress tapes. 1)Joanne Froggatt very strong perforamnce full of heartbreaking moments in her own episode, as well as in the episode submitted by Maggie Smith. this is the acting race DA has the best chance to win and Joanne Froggatt had much more develoed story line throughout the season than Smith. also everytime she's on the screen she is actually outplayes her costars. the only problem I see is that Fraggot doesn't have one big standout scene like many of previous winners who had some sort of defining moments ( Martindale's negotiotaion scene, Panjabi on the stand, Wiest's closing scene etc.) 2) Christina Hendricks is the center of amazing episodes that deals with sexual objectification. the fact that the episode itself is so very well recieved of course helps her, however she as usual doesn't go too emotional.from the viewpoint of writing it is what makes "The Other Woman" great, Hendricks keeps the sense that something despicable is going to happen, but she nevel turns it into soap opera. but soapy emotional scenes is what gives you an opportunity to shine. all the looks she gives, her voice and moves are perfect for this episode, but I think they are not enough to give her an Emmy 3) Maggie Smith is the most likable adorable character on the Downton Abbey. most peope would of probably hate her ( well maybe not hate, but they wouldn't have adored her for sure) if they met her in real life, but on the screen she is pure gold. in her episode she is very good as usual, she get's to deliver her one-liners but also has a storyline involving her trying to save some boys from going to war. Smith is eaually good in Christmas episode, with many warm scenes in which she tries to save her daughter and my personal favourite one'iner of hers: ( guy from Game of Thrones to her: don't suppose we meet again. - Do you promise? but of course she doesn't have a lot of screentime and she has won already, which in my oppinion would make voters want to reward someone else. 4) Christine Baranski was brilliant the entire season of the Good Wife. her tape is her very best work. she is funny, ironic, angry. Like Hendricks Baranski is rarely cries( she doesn't cry here at all) or throws something. but unlike Hendricks or Smith, Baranski's show is not as loved. 5) Anna Gunn is going to win if there's Breaking Bad love all across the board. she is great when we fet to see her, but unfortunatelly that rarely happens. 6) Archie Panjabi had a bad year. we get to see Kalinda been scared and sad about possible leaving. I wouldn't mind see her winning again but iwhat she has is really no enough. it's funny but this year I actually don't root for any particular winner. not all of them deserving I think, I would be glad to see any of these women going home with the prize |
| Jul 28th 2012, 11:26 |
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Esposito was not the MVP of Season 4. |
| Jul 28th 2012, 11:30 |
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Yes he was, if not him then who? |
| Jul 28th 2012, 11:30 |
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Woah woah, Gunn may not have a tape, but has been doing great work for years. And Baccarin, really? |
| Jul 28th 2012, 11:36 |
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Who was? I'm really hoping for a double Mad Men win in these Supporting Races. I really think that Hendricks has it in the bag this year 1.She has so much buzz about her. 2. They rewarded Maggie Smith last year. 3. It's an episode which has been nominated for writing and directing! 4. Most importantly, Hendricks has had a brilliant year and she completely steals the show in this episode - it's a brilliant showcase! I would just really love to see Jared Harris get up there and win his deserved emmy he was brilliant in "Commissions and Fees". Haven't watched Espositio yet - started to watch Breaking Bad last week and it is SO addictive! Just finished Season 3 today so I'm on the home front. Then will watch Downton Abbey next week. |
| Jul 28th 2012, 11:55 |
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Esposito has maybe an hour or two of material the whole 13 hour season and most of it is dealing with the Cartel, a very minor focus of the show. The character's presence is looming for most of it but his campy, cliche quiet act hardly set a new standard for the show. He is still outshined in nearly every scene he shares with with either Walt, Jesse, Mike, or even Hank. |
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