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| Jul 30th 2012, 10:07 |
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Here it is... Peter Jackson has officially announced that The Hobbit will be turned not into one... not into two... but into THREE motion pictures. Comment and discuss right here on this thread... "It is only at the end of a shoot that you finally get the chance to sit down and have a look at the film you have made. Recently Fran, Phil and I did just this when we watched for the first time an early cut of the first movie - and a large chunk of the second. We were really pleased with the way the story was coming together, in particular, the strength of the characters and the cast who have brought them to life. All of which gave rise to a simple question: do we take this chance to tell more of the tale? And the answer from our perspective as the filmmakers, and as fans, was an unreserved ‘yes.'
We know how much of the story of Bilbo Baggins, the Wizard Gandalf, the Dwarves of Erebor, the rise of the Necromancer, and the Battle of Dol Guldur will remain untold if we do not take this chance. The richness of the story of The Hobbit, as well as some of the related material in the appendices of The Lord of the Rings, allows us to tell the full story of the adventures of Bilbo Baggins and the part he played in the sometimes dangerous, but at all times exciting, history of Middle-earth.
So, without further ado and on behalf of New Line Cinema, Warner Bros. Pictures, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Wingnut Films, and the entire cast and crew of “The Hobbit” films, I’d like to announce that two films will become three.
It has been an unexpected journey indeed, and in the words of Professor Tolkien himself, "a tale that grew in the telling."
Cheers, Peter J" |
| Jul 30th 2012, 11:04 |
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This is so wrong. I thought Jackson would be above this. Blood from a stone, anyone? |
| Jul 30th 2012, 11:20 |
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The individual extended versions of Jackson's film adaptation of THE LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy are even better and more engrossing than the original cuts. Of course, THE HOBBIT is nowhere near as lengthy or complicated a tale as LOTR, but if Jackson can embellish it with materials from the LOTR appendices and deliver a three-part HOBBIT trilogy that is anywhere near as good as his adaptation of LOTR, I'm in.
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| Jul 30th 2012, 13:17 |
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Me too. Somehow, I cant imagine Jackson cramming in all three books into one LOTR film. I had thought that Jackson might rethink this decision and extend the film to two at most. But I can support three if they're up to his standard. Actually, I can $ee the rea$oning behind the deci$ion, literally speaking-wise of cour$e. The Sunne in Splendour; I prefer my Roses White |
| Jul 30th 2012, 14:59 |
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The Lord of the Rings (theatrical version of the film) runs about 10 hours. The Hobbit in three parts could be as little as 5 (3 100 minute films). So the shorter length of the book need not be of itself be an issue.
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| Jul 30th 2012, 15:18 |
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You are kiddin right? Peter Jackson will never make three 100 minute films for The Hobbit. They will be at least 150 minutes long (2.5 hours) each. That's 7 and a half hours total. but it could be more... |
| Jul 30th 2012, 20:37 |
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Jackson had access to certain letters and notes of Tolkien about Hobbit that contains subplots and details, and many of them weren't even published. It was during the filming for TLOR, Tolkien's son gave to him. I don't like The Lovely Bones, except Ronan, but I trust in Jackson. Let's hope for the best. |
| Jul 30th 2012, 20:38 |
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Honestly, I'm fine with this. The money is all up on the screen. It's an immersive experience that makes it worth going out to the theatre. Whether the films hold together remains to be seen; we can definitely nitpick the original trilogy. But I had a great movie experience with the "LOTR" films--particularly liked the extended version of "The Two Towers"--so I'm happy to go along with this. And from a purely financial point of view, it's delivering a f**kload of money to the studios releasing the third movie and everyone else sharing in the profits. Hollywood worships that kind of thing. "I knew I shoulda taken that left turn at Albuquerque." |
| Sep 19th 2012, 07:27 |
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NEW TRAILER FOR THE HOBBIT!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocwXjmMysZ4 I’m a LOTR fanboy and I’m not ashamed to admit it… and that was AWESOME!!! “Why the halfling?” Kill me now… |
| Sep 20th 2012, 16:23 |
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"I’m a LOTR fanboy and I’m not ashamed to admit it" Me too. So much more entertaining for me than suicide, truth twisting, religion-bashing, confinement for brainwashing profit,, and so on. Lol. Thanks for the youtube link. This cant come soon enough for me. The Sunne in Splendour; I prefer my Roses White |
| Sep 20th 2012, 18:02 |
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wow the cinematography looks beautiful. I'm excited.
"You're the smartest and the dumbest fuckin person I've ever known."
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| Sep 20th 2012, 21:06 |
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It does! It's Andrew Lesnie again. Hopefully he'll contend for another win. The Sunne in Splendour; I prefer my Roses White |
| Sep 21st 2012, 09:45 |
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Sigh. I wasn't a fan of the book and these trailers aren't doing much to interest me in the films either. I'm looking forward to seeing how it looks in 48 frames over everything else. |
| Nov 19th 2012, 11:06 |
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Had to go back 9 pages to find this thread, but bad publicity won't be stifled: 'Hobbit' Animal Deaths: Up To 27 Die As Wranglers Blame Production Company
By NICK PERRY
11/19/12 08:02 AM ET EST
WELLINGTON, New Zealand — Animal wranglers involved in the making of "The Hobbit" movie trilogy say the production company is responsible for the deaths of up to 27 animals, largely because they were kept at a farm filled with bluffs, sinkholes and other "death traps." The American Humane Association, which is overseeing animal welfare on the films, says no animals were harmed during the actual filming. But it also says the wranglers' complaints highlight shortcomings in its oversight system, which monitors film sets but not the facilities where the animals are housed and trained. A spokesman for trilogy director Peter Jackson on Monday acknowledged that horses, goats, chickens and one sheep died at the farm near Wellington where about 150 animals were housed for the movies, but he said some of the deaths were from natural causes. The spokesman, Matt Dravitzki, agreed that the deaths of two horses were avoidable, and said the production company moved quickly to improve conditions after they died. "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey," the first movie in the planned $500 million trilogy, is scheduled to launch with a red-carpet premiere Nov. 28 in Wellington and will open at theaters in the U.S. and around the world in December. The animal rights group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals says it's planning protests at the premieres in New Zealand, the U.S. and the U.K. The Associated Press spoke to four wranglers who said the farm near Wellington was unsuitable for horses because it was peppered with bluffs, sinkholes and broken-down fencing. They said they repeatedly raised concerns about the farm with their superiors and the production company, owned by Warner Bros., but it continued to be used. They say they want their story aired publicly now to prevent similar deaths in the future. One wrangler said that over time he buried three horses, as well as about six goats, six sheep and a dozen chickens. The wranglers say two more horses suffered severe injuries but survived. Wrangler Chris Langridge said he was hired as a horse trainer in November 2010, overseeing 50 or so horses, but immediately became concerned that the farm was full of "death traps." He said he tried to fill in some of the sinkholes, made by underground streams, and even brought in his own fences to keep the horses away from the most dangerous areas. Ultimately, he said, it was an impossible task. He said horses run at speeds of up to 30 mph and need to be housed on flat land: "It's just a no-brainer." The first horse to die, he said, was a miniature named Rainbow. "When I arrived at work in the morning, the pony was still alive but his back was broken. He'd come off a bank at speed and crash-landed," Langridge said. "He was in a bad state." Rainbow, who had been slated for use as a hobbit horse, was euthanized. A week later, a horse named Doofus got caught in some fencing and sliced open its leg. That horse survived, but Langridge said he'd had enough. He and his wife, Lynn, who was also working as a wrangler, said they quit in February 2011. The following month, they wrote an email to Brigitte Yorke, the Hobbit trilogy's unit production manager, outlining their concerns. Chris Langridge said he responded to Yorke's request for more information but never received a reply after that. Wrangler Johnny Smythe said that soon after Langridge left, a horse named Claire was found dead, its head submerged in a stream after it fell over a bluff. After that, he said, the horses were put in stables, where a third horse died. Smythe said no autopsy was performed on the horse, which was named Zeppelin. Veterinary records say the horse died of natural causes, from a burst blood vessel, but Smythe said the horse was bloated and its intestines were full of a yellow liquid; he believes it died of digestive problems caused by new feed. Smythe said the six goats and six sheep he buried died after falling into sinkholes, contracting worms or getting new feed after the grass was eaten. He said the chickens were often left out of their enclosure and that a dozen were mauled to death by dogs on two separate occasions. Smythe said he was fired in October 2011 after arguing with his boss about the treatment of the animals. A fourth wrangler, who didn't want to be named because she feared it could jeopardize her future employment in the industry, said another horse, Molly, got caught in a fence and ripped her leg open, suffering permanent injuries. Dravitzki, the spokesman for Peter Jackson, said the production company reacted swiftly after the first two horses died, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars upgrading housing and stable facilities in early 2011. "We do know those deaths were avoidable and we took steps to make sure it didn't happen again," he said. Dravitzki said Zeppelin died of a burst blood vessel and that he knew only of three goats, one sheep and about eight chickens that had died aside from that. He said two of the goats died in a cold snap but the third, like the sheep, was old and had likely died of natural causes. He said the chicken maulings were the result of careless staff oversight. The American Humane Association said in its report on "An Unexpected Journey" that it investigated the farm at the production company's request. Dravitzki said the company contacted the AHA after Smythe alleged mistreatment of animals. Mark Stubis, an association spokesman, said it investigated the farm in August 2011, months after the first deaths. "We made safety recommendations to the animals' living areas. The production company followed our recommendations and upgraded fence and farm housing, among other things," the group said. Dravitzki said the company had already made many of the recommended changes by the time the AHA made them. Stubis said the association acknowledges that what happens off-set remains a blind spot in its oversight. "We would love to be able to monitor the training of animals and the housing of animals," Stubis said. "It's something we are looking into. We want to make sure the animals are treated well all the time." Dravitzki questioned the timing of the allegations with the premiere so close but said the producers are investigating all the claims "and are attempting to speak with all parties involved to establish the truth." He said the company no longer leases the farm and has no animals left on the property. He said he didn't know if animals will be needed for future filming in the trilogy, but added that Jackson himself adopted three of the pigs used. Hollywood has made animal welfare a stated priority for years. In March, HBO canceled the horse racing series "Luck" after three thoroughbred horses died during production. The network said it canceled the show because it could not guarantee against future accidents. |
| Nov 20th 2012, 14:08 |
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I received notices about this yesterday morning and my heart sank. I didnt want to read it. Did you happen to read what Jackson said in his defense btw? He fails to mention that NONE of these fellow creatures had any choice about being in this film. What was wrong, not enough money for Mr CGI king to use fake animals? This was one movie I had no compunctions about seeing. Now, it has joined the ranks of films I dont want to see. I'll pass on this one. I also, cant find it inside me to root for it either. This has been a terrible year for me in terms of anticipation. Last year, it was War Horse. This year, I dont have enough fingers and toes to count them. The Sunne in Splendour; I prefer my Roses White |