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Jul 5th 2012, 18:40
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Carol Channing is overdue for one
Jul 5th 2012, 18:46
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Of course Jackie Chan's finest work MUST be his Hong Kong pictures, but here in USA, he'll be remembered for a bunch of CRAP directed by the likes of Brett Ratner et al.


O, I'm not so sure of that Vamp. He's working, which is a very good thing. His casting options arent going to be as varied as other actors are they...
When I think of Jackie I think of his amazing physical skills and timing. And, I think he was very good in The Karate Kid; although, I've always been entertained by his films.


I am NOT disputing Jackie Chan's athletic prowess, but when people think of THE KARATE KID (2010), they will think how inferior and mediocre it was compared to the original THE KARATE KID (1984).

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Well I dont, although, I'm biased (positively) when it comes to Noriyuki Morita. I could understand his dialect as well, which you know, doesnt hurt.
I'm just glad they rebooted the series without completely embarassing themselves.

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Jul 5th 2012, 18:52
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It's easy to dismiss a genre of film as not being "worthy." It's like a fan of rap saying anyone from country is worthless or vice versa. Major talents can come from a wide range of genres.  


Can we all just agree that both Country and Rap are worthless?!

Jul 5th 2012, 19:05
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That's snobbery at its most boorish.

Hardly anyone I suspect will agree with you.

Carol Channing, as legendary she is on stage, is not a significant film actor. I count four theaterical live action feature films in her entire career, of which the most significant was a supporting role in Thoroughly Modern Millie. Her two most famous stage roles were done on film by Marilyn Monroe and Barbra Streisand.  

 

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Well I dont, although, I'm biased (positively) when it comes to Noriyuki Morita. I could understand his dialect as well, which you know, doesnt hurt.
I'm just glad they rebooted the series without completely embarassing themselves.


As I've said before, 99% of all remakes are VASTLY inferior to the originals. (That might be a bit of an exaggeration, but the rate is no lower than 90% of all remakes are wretched ripoffs inferior to the originals.)

The only hope for most films is to become so famous and beloved that no one dares remake them. Can you imagine anyone trying to remake Star Wars? Casablanca? Gone With The Wind? The Wizard of Oz? Psycho? Oh, wait...

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That's snobbery at its most boorish.

Hardly anyone I suspect will agree with you.


At least not publicly.

Jul 5th 2012, 19:16
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A majority of remakes likely are inferior to the originals - but many are not:


1956 Man Who Knew Too Much better than 1934

An Affair to Remember is better than Love Affair

Douglas Sirk's Imitation of Life and Magnificent Obsession better than John Stahl's

The 3rd Maltese Falcon is by far the best

Many would say The Departed is better than Infernal Affairs

David Fincher's The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is the better of the two I thinki

So it's not nearly as open and shut as some might think      

            

 

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A majority of remakes likely are inferior to the originals - but many are not:


1956 Man Who Knew Too Much better than 1934

An Affair to Remember is better than Love Affair

Douglas Sirk's Imitation of Life and Magnificent Obsession better than John Stahl's

The 3rd Maltese Falcon is by far the best

Many would say The Departed is better than Infernal Affairs

David Fincher's The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is the better of the two I thinki

So it's not nearly as open and shut as some might think      

            


Yes, some remakes are indeed better, including most of the ones you cited above. Fincher's version is certainly better looking and sounding, since its budget was about 1,000 times bigger than the original Swedish version, but I felt Fincher's version lacked a feeling of authenticity. Plus, I wasn't impressed at all by Daniel Craig, but Rooney Mara did a decent job as Salander...

Jul 5th 2012, 19:28
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It was a vastly better directed film, which the way I understand film works is what mattered.

It was 7 times more expensive for the record - $90 to $13. The Swedish version may have been the most expensive (not accounting for inflation perhaps) one ever made in that language. The Fincher was an average cost US film.  

 

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Eh, I don't know if that makes it "better" than the original. Even Roger Ebert said he couldn't tell if Fincher's film was the better of the two; he said it was just "different":

"Fincher is certainly a more assured director than Niels Arden Oplev, who did the 2009 Swedish film. Yet his assurance isn't always a plus. The earlier film had a certain earnest directness that seemed to raise the stakes. Emotions were closer to the surface. Rooney Mara and Noomi Rapace both create convincing Salanders, but Rapace seems more uneasy in her skin, more threatened. As the male lead Mikael Blomkvist, Michael Nyqvist seemed less confident, more threatened. In this film, Daniel Craig brings along the confidence of James Bond. How could he not? He looks too comfortable in danger."

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What about Cicely Tyson?

She's had alot of great roles (though she's only been nominated for one academy award, a shame), and she could be fresh in voters minds since she just appeared in The Help. I was surprised that she didn't already have an Honorary Oscar.
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And to those who say they don't usually give Honorary Oscars to people mostly known for work outside of film, or they don't give them to people who mainly play supporting roles....I have two words for you....

OPRAH WINFREY!


I mean, what movie is she known for besides The Color Purple?
Jul 5th 2012, 22:38
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There are two seperate awards.. Oprah won the 'Humanitarian Award'.
Jul 5th 2012, 23:29
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Jackie Chan would be a brilliant choice for an Honorary Oscar. He's more than just a huge star and entrepreneur around the world, he's sort of an ambassador for the Asian film industry.

I can't believe people are still wound up about Oprah's humanitarian Oscar. That award is for members of the entertainment industry whose charitable work exemplifies the ideals of Jean Hersholt and the Academy as an organization. Oprah certainly fits that bill. It's NOT in recognition of a meritorious career in film, but for entertainment industry members who do good work. 

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