[WATCH] Daytime Emmys 2016 post-show slugfest: How did ‘General Hospital,’ ‘The Talk,’ Mary Beth Evans pull off upsets?

“We both had [‘General Hospital’] in second place in our predictions, but to me it was more of a shock because one of their episodes was the reel that we both thought would win Anthony Geary Emmy number-nine [but didn’t],” says Tony Ruiz in our 2016 Daytime Emmys post-show slugfest (watch it above). We convened after the last award was handed out to try to wrap our minds around the biggest surprises. How do we explain all those shockers?

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The two of us thought “The Bold and the Beautiful” would win for submitting episodes from its landmark transgender storyline, but if there’s one thing the Daytime Emmys have taught us it’s that voters love “GH” spectacle, and its pair of episodes were not just eventfully but visually and creatively showy (“GH,” perhaps unsurprisingly, also won Best Directing Team).

The heavily favored Geary lost Best Actor to his “GH” co-star Tyler Christopher, but “kudos to Christopher because you and I both agreed that his reel was just spectacular,” says Ruiz. “That’s one of the things we can take from this year’s Emmys is that even when somebody won who we weren’t predicting … the person who did win had good material. It wasn’t a WTF moment.”

There was perhaps one exception. Ruiz and I were both taken aback when Mary Beth Evans won Best Actress for “Days of Our Lives.” As a producer and star of the digital series “The Bay,” Evans also won two awards at Creative Arts on Friday night, which gives her a grand total of three Emmys this year alone, and four Emmys since only last year. “That was stunning to me,” said Ruiz. “For her to be such a veteran and to be having this kind of roll that she’s on … when they like you, I guess they really like you.”

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Ruiz and I were also surprised by most of the talk-show winners, including “The Talk” over perennial winner “The Ellen DeGeneres Show” for Best Entertainment Talk Show. “I had ‘The Talk’ ranked second to win,” he explained. “I actually thought maybe its hosts would win Entertainment Talk Show Host, but I should have known better because very rarely [does a show with that many co-hosts win]. I think it’s actually called the ‘View Rule.'” But the “Talk” hosts lost for the second year in a row to Kelly Ripa and Michael Strahan (“Live with Kelly and Michael”).

Watch the rest of our slugfest, where we discuss more surprises, consider whether the awards should keep the new Musical Performance category won this year by Rachel Platten (“Good Morning America”) and finally strategize how to win Kassie DePaiva her long-overdue Emmy.

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