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    https://soaps.sheknows.com/soaps/news/535703/another-all-my-children-one-life-to-live-reboot-in-the-future/

    Several soap opera blogs and Soap Opera Digest are reporting that ABC executives are considering reviving both AMC and OLTL in some form, while also assuring us that “GH” will continue to air for a very long time.

    Although nothing is concrete yet, it sounds like they are actively considering reviving both soaps!

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    I watched One Life to Live religiously from Marcie’s serial killer story (that became Michael’s but let’s not discuss that) to Langston and that guy who ended up hooking up with Jess/Tess.

    So YESSSSSSS to this. I will watch it online tho… I hope it is in Hulu or something somehow.

    I just love movies. And awards.

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    Boidiva02
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    If AMC and OLTL are revived here are some questions:

    1. Which cast members do you think they MUST bring back? Can they get everybody they want back? Will Lucci sign on? will Slezak come out of retirement?

    2. How will/should they deal with some cast members who’ve died in the past years like David Canary, Patricia Elliott, etc. Canary was a lead on AMC so Adam Chandler would have to be dead right?

    3. Will they ignore the storyline from the Hulu version?

    4. How will they undo the mess ABC caused with Starr/Todd/etc

    5. IF they are revived in their original form (on network TV) can they be competitive at Daytime Emmy again?

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    syrus80
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    I honestly don’t care if either one is brought back. And I loved both shows. Ron Carlivati destroyed OLTL in his last run. AMC fared better in its online run.

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    Sean Phillips
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    Also it’s been what 8 years since AMC was on the network? Let’s let it go! If they want to expand the daytime lineup let’s get new characters and stories in a new show. That’s the only way the medium can survive.

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    I was under the impression that ABC had essentially shrugged and said maybe when asked about reviving AMC and OLTL, but this makes it sound like ABC is a good deal more interested than I had thought. I was a little surprised that Stephanie and Mara were discussing this on the SOD podcast, where the primary question seemed to be format — would ABC attempt to combine the two shows into one “supersoap” that salvages parts of both shows, or perhaps air each show for half the year? The assumption was that ABC couldn’t possibly free up two hours from its lineup and would have to go with an hour for whatever form this takes. If that is the case, there’s also a possibility of simply reviving each show as a half hour. I also wonder if this is something that could air exclusively or primarily on Disney’s upcoming streaming service, which, like the Apple streaming service, has been a source of irritation for me. Throwing these beloved properties onto a new streaming service could be a good way of hooking older viewers who would perhaps not be into streaming services generally.

    While I agree with the sentiment of moving forward with new characters and new stories, I think it would be foolish of ABC to totally forego the potential benefits of the still much-missed shows they already own to create new ones. Considering how much time has passed, how many actors will no longer be available for one reason or another, and what has happened to some of the characters in the meantime, the shows would really have to look significantly different from what they were. Each should probably concentrate or getting back a core group of characters and mixing those with a fresh group of characters, perhaps an old core family and a new core family, and set up the new characters with potential for new and different stories, rather than the same retread, that still can deliver the soap basics.

    All that being said, I don’t really see this happening.

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    It may have been 8 years, but I am still anxiously hoping these shows do make a comeback. I’ve been waiting 8 years to see them come back. I think there are enough cast members who would be willing to return that these reboots could be successful.

    Of course this is all rather early stage but I’m hoping they return in some form.

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    I would love to see AMC and OLTL  come back. However,  all the characters would be different.  90% of everyone have been cast in other shows and doing other things. It just would not be the same. I would love it but it would be so different.  Unless it could be with all the actors being the same, I  don’t know if it is really worth it. 5 yrs is a long time for them to sit still.

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    I think that if they came back they should be half hour shows. The reboots proved they could be done well at a shorter amount of time, with less characters, and still be successful. I have been watching old soaps that are a half hour (The Edge Of Night, The Doctors and Ryan’s Hope) and while one hour shows can work too I think reboots ought to be at the half hour length.

    If they were to come back I would want Dorian and David on OLTL, and Brooke on AMC the most.

    Personally I think we need to start watching the online soaps and helping them to survive – perhaps an online soap channel/community in which everybody would pay $5 a month to pay the bills and have a whole bunch of new soaps on it? Or reboots of some old favorites? (I would love a reboot of The Edge Of Night!)

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    My thoughts are that B&B proved years ago that a half-hour soap can be very successful and thrive with the correct showrunners behind it. So I’d be happy if they were half-hours, if that is what it takes to get them there.

    That said, AMC MUST include Brooke and Erica at the front and center. That is a must. Erica has always been at the front and center of “AMC” and Pine Valley isn’t the same w/out her. And for that point, Brooke has always been the perfect counter to Erica. They need each other.

    OLTL has to include Viki. OLTL w/out Erika Slezak is not OLTL. If Robin Strasser is unavailable they don’t need Dorian (as much as I love her), but Erika Slezak is a must. Don’t get me wrong, I love Dorian but OLTL can work w/out her, but it cannot thrive w/out Victoria Lord.

    As for showrunners, I think OLTL needs to get Gary Tomlin back and AMC needs to get either Francesca James or Jean Dadario Burke. For headwriters, I’d like to see Lorraine Broderick for AMC and Michael Malone and Josh Griffiths for OLTL. I think these people are the best suited for these particular shows and have a rich understanding of the genre and these specific series. I don’t want Frank Valentini anywhere them as I always found him lacking in creativity.

    Lastly, a wild suggestion would be asking Wendy Riche to take ahold of one of them. She’s a brilliant producer whose work on GH is nearly legendary and she could bring a lot of value.

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    Watch: you’ll end up with Jill Farren Phelps.

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    Interesting suggestions.

    I think it would be great to start off an AMC reboot with a focus on Susan Lucci’s Erika and Julia Barr’s Brooke, and an OLTL reboot with Erika Slezak’s Viki and Robin Strasser’s Dorian. But I’d also say these are not the characters that these reboots, should they go forward, should be built around. Barr is 70, Lucci and Slezak are 72, and Strasser is 73. I would use these characters to really kick things off in the first few months but be simultaneously passing focus to a range of younger characters. To me, part of the issue with daytime is that these shows have had a really tough time getting newer characters in their 20s, 30s or 40s to really click and feel like the important people on the show the way the now-older characters did a generation before them. It would be great if these reboots could work around this. So instead of enshrining Erika and Brooke as the centerpieces of this reboot, maybe work with Greenlee, Dixie or Kendall. Rather than Viki and Dorian, make the centers of the show Kelly, Blair, Natalie, Jessica. I know for me personally, the established characters I would most tune in to see would be Greenlee and Natalie, and this is coming from someone who had stints watching both of these shows but wouldn’t consider myself to ever have been a truly hardcore fan.

    My feelings on the behind-the-scenes folks are less strong, but I think a similar approach would be a good idea. Maybe the shows create teams of co-EPs and co-HWs, where one is someone who’s had a long history in one of these lead positions with the show and the other comes in a little fresher, both injecting fresh ideas and giving the potential for a much longer tenure in these positions.

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    I have fond memories of those past daytime soaps. But, I have a different take on this than what is frequently expressed. So, if anyone feels bothered by what I mention, please know it is just me trying to convey an understanding of the reality.

    Now that we are three months into 2019, this year will mark ten [10] years since the cancellation of CBS’s Guiding Light. It last aired in September 2009. In December 2009, the network also canceled As the World Turns, which had its last episode in September 2010.

    ABC canceled both All My Children and One Life to Live in 2011. The former aired its last episode in September 2011. The latter broadcast its last episode in January 2012.

    Four consecutive years: 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012.

    Why were they each canceled?

    Some say ratings. But, I don’t think that nails it. I think, in the series’ exit coverage by TV Guide’s Michael Logan (what happened to him?), GL’s Frank Dicopoulos (who played Frank Cooper from 1987 until its end in 2009) had it right: it was about the money.

    I think it had to do with the overall structure of a production’s costs. That the networks wanted out. But, not totally out. We are now reduced to just four soaps: ABC’s General Hospital, CBS’s The Young and the Restless and The Bold and the Beautiful, and NBC’s Days of Our Lives. When I first started watching soaps, regularly, in 1984, there were 14 daytime soaps (six on ABC, four each on CBS and NBC). Having that number nowadays at 4, from a business perspective, is much more manageable.

    I don’t think—given production costs—any of ABC, CBS, or NBC want to add a new or a rebooted daytime soap to their lineups.

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    Interesting suggestions.

    I think it would be great to start off an AMC reboot with a focus on Susan Lucci’s Erika and Julia Barr’s Brooke, and an OLTL reboot with Erika Slezak’s Viki and Robin Strasser’s Dorian. But I’d also say these are not the characters that these reboots, should they go forward, should be built around. Barr is 70, Lucci and Slezak are 72, and Strasser is 73. I would use these characters to really kick things off in the first few months but be simultaneously passing focus to a range of younger characters. To me, part of the issue with daytime is that these shows have had a really tough time getting newer characters in their 20s, 30s or 40s to really click and feel like the important people on the show the way the now-older characters did a generation before them. It would be great if these reboots could work around this. So instead of enshrining Erika and Brooke as the centerpieces of this reboot, maybe work with Greenlee, Dixie or Kendall. Rather than Viki and Dorian, make the centers of the show Kelly, Blair, Natalie, Jessica. I know for me personally, the established characters I would most tune in to see would be Greenlee and Natalie, and this is coming from someone who had stints watching both of these shows but wouldn’t consider myself to ever have been a truly hardcore fan.

    My feelings on the behind-the-scenes folks are less strong, but I think a similar approach would be a good idea. Maybe the shows create teams of co-EPs and co-HWs, where one is someone who’s had a long history in one of these lead positions with the show and the other comes in a little fresher, both injecting fresh ideas and giving the potential for a much longer tenure in these positions.

    You bring up some valid points, I think by the end of these shows, both AMC and OLTL had done a great job of integrating younger characters into their canvas. OLTL had done a great balance of younger characters (Natalie, Jessica, Blair, Starr, Gigi, Rex, etc) while also focusing on veterans (Viki, Dorian, Nora, Clint, etc). AMC had a similar effect with younger characters (JR, Bianca, Kendall, Greenlee) and older characters (David, Erica, Tad, Krystal, Adam). But I think AMC was not so good at creating younger characters we actually liked.

    The magical part of reboots is that they could start from scratch ditching characters that nobody liked and focusing on one’s that are well liked.

    I think a big mistake would be to totally ignore the series history and just start with characters that weren’t well established.

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    Watch: you’ll end up with Jill Farren Phelps.

    Well, I know her work at GH was horrible, but I actually rather enjoyed her time at “OLTL” where she did some great work.

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