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The truth is we are all right about who deserved to win – our biases often have to do with which shows we watched more – more so back then when there were so many shows. I know some of you are really hung up on the Emmy reels but for me I remember all the moments and not just the Emmy reel moments. So I think Bree Williamson ought to have won instead of Tamara Braun but they chose TB. I just wish Bree had won an Emmy one of the three years she was nominated; she was phenomenal in her role!
ReplyCopy URLTo me it’s not about what show actors on. I always go off the reel. I think I could be a fair judge. Whoever wows me would get my vote.
I would factor in other things. For example there have been several category frauds in the lead acting categories and I would not vote for them when I know they don’t belong in lead. If the award is for the best Emmy reel then that should be the name of the category: “Best Emmy Reel by a Lead Actress in a Daytime Drama Series”. I have always felt that the Emmy reel should be a consideration but not the only consideration in judging for the daytime Emmys.
ReplyCopy URLI think the most fair system would be for nominations to be determined based on the year of work and then winners to be determined based on the reels. It makes sense to want to factor in other things, but going by reels feels like the best way to eliminate personal biases. It’s not foolproof, but I think it helps.
I agree that I’ve definitely felt some people were not in the right category, but category placements are agreed upon by the performer, the show and the awards administration, so if someone were in a category I felt wasn’t the correct one, I wouldn’t hold it against them.
ReplyCopy URLSuzanne rogers deserved as Maghie deals with the death of a child.
Francesca James Kelly dealt with a pill addiction.
Jane Elliots Tracey with held Edward’s meds which was brilliant by the way lol
Dorthy Lymans Opal came to town to reunite with her son.
Louise shaffers Rae was in a triangle with her daughter and her boyfriend.
Judi Evans Beth was raped by her stepfather.
Beth Maitlands Tracey dealt with suicide.
LeAnn Hunleys Anna was kidnapped and Tony divorced her
Kathleen Noones Ellen dealt with ex husband Mark’s intervention.
Ellen Wheelers Cindy tells Angie how she contracted HIV
Nancy Lee Grahns Julia explained why her father was abusive.
Debbi Morgan’s Angie loses her Jesse
Julia Barrs Brooke confronts Adam about his affair with Dixie.
Jess Waltons Jill discovers Nina has ran away with Chance.
Maeve Kinkeads Vanessa goes through a breakup with Billy.
Ellen Parkers Maureen confronts Lillian and Ed about their affair.
Susan Haskells Marty loses it on the stand as Marty deals with her rapists.
Rena Sofers Lois blasts Brenda for not telling her about Katherine and Ned.
Anna Holbrooks Sharlene confronts John about his affair with Felicia.
Michelle Staffords Phyllis has a conversation with Joni about Danny and Christine.
Julia Barrs Brooke deals with Pstd and she tells Edmund that Maria is dead.
Sharon Cases Sharon confronts Nick about his affair with Grace.
Sarah Browns Carly tells Jason how much their friendship means to her.
Leslie Kay’s Molly was haunted by the ghost of Vicky.
Crystal Chappels Olivia is confronted by Josh about the tape from Peter and Oliva tells Josh that she’s not gonna compete with reva for Josh’s affections.
Vanessa Marcils Brenda goes to st Timothy’s to meets sonny and tells the quartermines about her wedding to Jason.
Cady McClains Rosanna confronts Paul for betraying her trust.
Natalia Livingstons Emily finds out that Edward is responsible for the hotel fire.
Gina Tognonis Dinah leaves mallet a message while drunk and is confronted by Jonathan about her fake pregnancy.
Genie Francis Laura slips back into her mental state on Xmas and Luke tells Laura why she slipped into her mental state.
Gina Tognonis Dinah deals with a brain injury after being shot by Griggs.
Tamara Brauns Ava tearfully tells Steve that he turned her into this horrible monster.
Julie Pinsons Janet deals with her breakup with Jack.
Heather Tom’s Katie deals with being fired Forrester Creations.
Nancy Lee Grahns Alexis confronts Carly about her relationship with Jax.
Julie Bermans Lulu blasts Luke for always being absent and she’s scared she might develop a drinking problem.
Amelia Heinles Victoria mourns the lost of Delia.
Amelia Heinles Victoria reminisces about Delia with Billy.
Jessica Collins Avery deals with rape and blasting her ex husband for butting into her relationship with Dylan.
Kate Mansis Abigail sets Ben on fire.
Camryn Grimes Mariah that she has feelings for Tessa.
Vernee Watsons Stella is arrested for assaulting a man she said stole her purse. Stella tries to explain to Sonny the difficulties he will face in providing care for his father, who has been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s. While asking Mike about his new lady friend, Stella is surprised to see a man from her past named Marcus. T.J. asks Stella to reconsider her decision not to attend Jordan and Curtis’ wedding. Stella, Curtis, and Jordan attend a family counseling session — and it doesn’t go as well as expected.
Tamara Brauns Kim dealt with the death of her son Oscar.
Marla Adams Dina says a tearful goodbye to her family.
Kelly Thiebauds Britt tells Carly that Jason is dead and Britt deals with a terminal illness.It’s crazy how I remember all their reels lol
ReplyCopy URLSuzanne rogers deserved as Maghie deals with the death of a child.
Francesca James Kelly dealt with a pill addiction.
Jane Elliots Tracey with held Edward’s meds which was brilliant by the way lol
Dorthy Lymans Opal came to town to reunite with her son.
Louise shaffers Rae was in a triangle with her daughter and her boyfriend.
Judi Evans Beth was raped by her stepfather.
Beth Maitlands Tracey dealt with suicide.
LeAnn Hunleys Anna was kidnapped and Tony divorced her
Kathleen Noones Ellen dealt with ex husband Mark’s intervention.
Ellen Wheelers Cindy tells Angie how she contracted HIV
Nancy Lee Grahns Julia explained why her father was abusive.
Debbi Morgan’s Angie loses her Jesse
Julia Barrs Brooke confronts Adam about his affair with Dixie.
Jess Waltons Jill discovers Nina has ran away with Chance.
Maeve Kinkeads Vanessa goes through a breakup with Billy.
Ellen Parkers Maureen confronts Lillian and Ed about their affair.
Susan Haskells Marty loses it on the stand as Marty deals with her rapists.
Rena Sofers Lois blasts Brenda for not telling her about Katherine and Ned.
Anna Holbrooks Sharlene confronts John about his affair with Felicia.
Michelle Staffords Phyllis has a conversation with Joni about Danny and Christine.
Julia Barrs Brooke deals with Pstd and she tells Edmund that Maria is dead.
Sharon Cases Sharon confronts Nick about his affair with Grace.
Sarah Browns Carly tells Jason how much their friendship means to her.
Leslie Kay’s Molly was haunted by the ghost of Vicky.
Crystal Chappels Olivia is confronted by Josh about the tape from Peter and Oliva tells Josh that she’s not gonna compete with reva for Josh’s affections.
Vanessa Marcils Brenda goes to st Timothy’s to meets sonny and tells the quartermines about her wedding to Jason.
Cady McClains Rosanna confronts Paul for betraying her trust.
Natalia Livingstons Emily finds out that Edward is responsible for the hotel fire.
Gina Tognonis Dinah leaves mallet a message while drunk and is confronted by Jonathan about her fake pregnancy.
Genie Francis Laura slips back into her mental state on Xmas and Luke tells Laura why she slipped into her mental state.
Gina Tognonis Dinah deals with a brain injury after being shot by Griggs.
Tamara Brauns Ava tearfully tells Steve that he turned her into this horrible monster.
Julie Pinsons Janet deals with her breakup with Jack.
Heather Tom’s Katie deals with being fired Forrester Creations.
Nancy Lee Grahns Alexis confronts Carly about her relationship with Jax.
Julie Bermans Lulu blasts Luke for always being absent and she’s scared she might develop a drinking problem.
Amelia Heinles Victoria mourns the lost of Delia.
Amelia Heinles Victoria reminisces about Delia with Billy.
Jessica Collins Avery deals with rape and blasting her ex husband for butting into her relationship with Dylan.
Kate Mansis Abigail sets Ben on fire.
Camryn Grimes Mariah that she has feelings for Tessa.
Vernee Watsons Stella is arrested for assaulting a man she said stole her purse. Stella tries to explain to Sonny the difficulties he will face in providing care for his father, who has been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s. While asking Mike about his new lady friend, Stella is surprised to see a man from her past named Marcus. T.J. asks Stella to reconsider her decision not to attend Jordan and Curtis’ wedding. Stella, Curtis, and Jordan attend a family counseling session — and it doesn’t go as well as expected.
Tamara Brauns Kim dealt with the death of her son Oscar.
Marla Adams Dina says a tearful goodbye to her family.
Kelly Thiebauds Britt tells Carly that Jason is dead and Britt deals with a terminal illness.It’s crazy how I remember all their reels lol
Well done and thank you for taking the time to catalogue the submissions.
ReplyCopy URLAmelia Heinles Victoria mourns the lost of Delia.
Amelia Heinles Victoria reminisces about Delia with Billy.I believe it’s still not public knowledge as to what Heinle submitted the second year of her back-to-back Emmy wins (the scenes you recall surrounding the loss of Delia is what Heinle submitted the year prior, resulting in her first Emmy win). My hunch though is that she submitted the stand-alone episode in which (if my memory serves me correctly) a pregnant Victoria starts going into labor while trapped alone in the storage room of the parking garage. She was phenomenal throughout the entire episode.
ReplyCopy URLI believe it’s still not public knowledge as to what Heinle submitted the second year of her back-to-back Emmy wins (the scenes you recall surrounding the loss of Delia is what Heinle submitted the year prior, resulting in her first Emmy win). My hunch though is that she submitted the stand-alone episode in which (if my memory serves me correctly) a pregnant Victoria starts going into labor while trapped alone in the storage room of the parking garage. She was phenomenal throughout the entire episode.
the episode Heinle picked for her second win was the October 14, 2014 episode where Victoria and Billy reminisced about Delia on the one-year anniversary of her death. Billy apologized for his behavior over the previous year, but Victoria told him no further apologies were necessary. Victoria visited Kelly and suggested they both let their anger go.
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the episode Heinle picked for her second win was the October 14, 2014 episode where Victoria and Billy reminisced about Delia on the one-year anniversary of her death. Billy apologized for his behavior over the previous year, but Victoria told him no further apologies were necessary. Victoria visited Kelly and suggested they both let their anger go.
Sorry, I should’ve also been clearer in my post. What I meant to say is that it’s not known what material Heinle had selected for the pre-nom round in 2015 (keep in mind, Emmy voting during that time still consisted of two rounds, the pre-nom and then final round of voting; only recently has the pre-nom round been eliminated and one round of voting determines both the nominees and winners). You are of course right that she submitted scenes centered around the one-year anniversary of Delia’s death, but this was only for the final round of voting that year.
I did a little research though and stumbled upon this neat interview from 4/1/15 (eight years ago… gosh how time flies!) that Heinle did with Soapcentral (I don’t know how I could’ve missed it at the time) and she mentions that part of her pre-nom reel did, in fact, consist of scenes from that stand-alone episode where Victoria gives birth. So, mystery finally solved lol! For the second (final) round of voting, “to keep it simple”, she stuck solely with the scenes from the Delia’s death anniversary show.
I realize that her win came as a surprise to many (Heinle included!) but knowing now what we do about the pre-nom scenes she selected, her win in hindsight makes total sense. She was truly stellar in that episode alone (one of those rare performances that stays with you) and I’m glad she went with her gut and selected those scenes and included them in her pre-nom reel for the, imo, most critical round of voting.
Here is the interview for anyone interested:
https://www.soapcentral.com/young-and-restless/news/2015/0401-heinle_emmynom.php
ReplyCopy URLI was surprised by Amelia Heinle’s first win, but pleasantly so. I liked her reel much more than Elizabeth Hendrickson’s, but I didn’t think she had a shot to win. If I’m remembering correctly, I had ranked Jane Elliot first that year, followed by Hendrickson and then Heinle. It reminds me a little of Mary Beth Evans’s win in lead actress a couple of years later. Again, I’d ranked her third, but really liked her reel and just didn’t think the judges would go for it over bigger performances.
One point of clarification here: The brief prenom clips were never used to determine nominations. They were only ever used for determining the list of prenominees who would then compete for nominations. In the early days of the prenom system, each show would be allowed to submit two performers per category, which I believe was ostensibly done by a cast vote, but some shows were known to simply choose their two candidates without the cast voting on them. I think it was later expanded to three, as there were fewer and fewer shows, before it was changed to have all daytime performers vote on the overall list of prenoms. But since that was largely just a popularity contest, NATAS introduced the four-minute clip submission that was used until the prenom system was eliminated. But in all the time the prenom system existed, it was only used to whittle down the list of potential nominees that needed to be considered by judges. Then that list of 10 or 18 or 27 or however many performers would go on to be judged for nominations, either in a round that just determined nominees or a round that determined both nominees and winners, depending on the year.
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