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  • FreemanGriffin
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    I really hope they don’t do this. I would suggest that they limit the number of nominees to four instead of five since there are so few potential nominees.

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    Djoko
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    This article is interesting:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2019/tv/news/daytime-emmys-transparency-report-nomination-challenges-judging-irregularities-1203297428/amp/

    Finally, after years of people yelling about voting blocs in the Daytime Emmys they finally have proof – only after CBS and ABC started losing. All of those years Days was snubbed because ABC and CBS blocked them from competing was so egregious, NATAS should be ashamed of themselves for not doing anything about it. There’s a reason why GH and Y&R won Best Drama year after year without deserving it. Their wins should be erased.

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    EmmyLoser
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    The Daytime Emmys continue to be a mess!

    I don’t love the idea of combining the male and female younger categories, but it’s definitely preferable to me than just having the younger actors compete in supporting or lead. It’s pretty clear to me after listening to many actors discuss their category placement that much of the industry, and certainly many of the actors who judge the Emmys, consider category placement to be much more a matter of historical connection to the show and years of experience in the industry than screentime during the eligibility period or strength of the work. Most younger actors would have no shot at cracking those categories regardless of how much airtime they have or how strong the work is.

    I also don’t think it’s a particularly fair comparison between the combined categories at the Grammys and a combined younger performer category at the Daytime Emmys, primarily because an artist who puts out an album during the eligibility period can get nominated for a bunch of different awards, but an actor on one soap all year only has one shot. It feels less fair to me.

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    eastwest
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    I’m have some things to say about this. While I am pleased that there has seemed to be an overdue overhaul with leadership in NATAS, I’m side-eyeing them bandwagoning on the whole gender neutral discussion with awards (which I personally disagree with). The truth is that these current younger actors are not good. I won’t be surprised if this category is filled with nominees from the online dramas since now it’s not only the soap people on these voting panels.

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    EmmyLoser
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    I suppose it’s a good thing that the Daytime Emmys are offering a space for gender nonconforming actors to compete (if they’re under 26), but it does feel like a disingenuous motivation for the move, at least unless we hear that the lead and supporting categories are being combined as well. But given that the industry as a whole seems fairly unconcerned with nurturing a younger generation of stars on these shows, I can also see why they’d not want to highlight the shallow pool of actors they might have to choose from. I have a hard time figuring out who would have competed in a male younger actor category for 2019. I’ve seen the young women do incredible work, but there are hardly any guys to even choose from, let alone any that have had enough story to produce worthwhile performances.

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    DS0816
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    I think it is important to distinguish between whether an actor or actress carries a lead or a supporting role.

    I am good with guest roles. (I like that in both daytime and prime-time. I wish prime-time would bring back performance categories—more than one—in variety and not make them compete in other fields.)

    The categorical levels are greatly important because they have to regard the level that a character, and the performer, played to storylines and/or a series during an Emmys’ eligibility period.

    What this change by the National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences tells me is NATAS is trying to stretch out the younger acting categories—reduce it to one non-gender-specific category—because of a lack of eligible individuals and/or a lack of interest. But, while NATAS insists on milking the “younger” categorical level for however much longer, enough people should recognize it is time to eliminate the younger-acting categories.

    I have followed the Daytime Emmys since 1985, the year the younger-acting categories were introduced. So, this has been 35 consecutive years. There were a lot of years in which there were nominated performances that were really lead roles. But, a nominated actor or actress was of qualifying age. (One memorable year consisted of two lead actors, approximately ten years in age difference, directly working together as a supercouple. One was rightly nominated as a lead while the other was nominated as a younger performer.) This has made the younger-acting categories age-specific and has served as an alternative route to an Emmy nomination—and, often, the Emmy itself—and functions as a substitute for distinguishing between a lead and a supporting role; allowing for a performer to refrain from submitting both honestly and accordingly in a lead or a supporting category. (Oscar, Tony, and prime-time Emmy does not do this.)

    With just four daytime soaps remaining on traditional broadcast networks—ABC’s General Hospital, CBS’s The Bold and the Beautiful and The Young and the Restless, and NBC’s Days of Our Lives—there is no prestige remaining in the Daytime Emmys. (The four daytime dramas are automatically nominated for Outstanding Drama Series every year because NATAS may as well.) It’s good to see people—especially those who can be considered overdue—win for the first time. Don’t doubt that! But, that’s about as special as the Daytime Emmys nowadays gets.

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    I can’t help but still be on the fence about whether or not NATAS made the right decision here, merging the two younger acting categories. On the one hand, with the amount of viable younger actor candidates shrinking the last few years, reaching an all-time low during the last Emmys cycle, it’s understandable that this scarcity could no longer go ignored (after all, when the success of the younger actor category comes down to whether or not a single candidate has chosen to submit his work for consideration, you know you’ve got a problem!). On the other hand, one could argue that it’s not fair for NATAS to base its decision on what was essentially an anomaly year (as opposed to the current Emmys cycle which consists of a greater pool* of possible contenders; reason enough that perhaps NATAS acted prematurely and should’ve let the younger actor category at least have another go). Going forward, I do think (as others have mentioned) responsibility rests first and foremost with the daytime dramas in prioritizing its younger set and write more compelling material specifically for its younger actors (to match the already strong collective showing of incredible work demonstrated by its younger actresses). If daytime steps up to the plate, then NATAS will follow and I can imagine the young performer category branching back out into the younger actor and actress fields in due time.

    *Possible younger actor contenders (for the current year, 2019):

    Lucas Adams (Tripp Dalton, DAYS)
    Ashton Arbab (Dev, GH)
    Adain Bradley (Xander Avant, B&B)
    Noah Alexander Gerry (Charlie Ashby, Y&R)
    Tristan Lake Leabu (Reed Hellstrom, Y&R)
    William Lipton (Cameron Webber, GH)
    Judah Mackey (Connor Newman, Y&R)
    Casey Moss (J.J. Deveraux, DAYS)
    Henry Joseph Samiri (Douglas Forrester, B&B)
    Garren Stitt (Oscar Nero, GH)

    And personally, I’d have nominated these five (had there still been a Younger Actor category):

    Adain Bradley (Xander Avant, B&B)
    William Lipton (Cameron Webber, GH)
    Judah Mackey (Connor Newman, Y&R)
    Casey Moss (J.J. Deveraux, DAYS)
    Henry Joseph Samiri (Douglas Forrester, B&B)

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    youngsoapfan
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    I personally Think that they should keep the category separate, but reduce the number of nominees to a maximum of 3 every year. In the case where there aren’t enough worthy nominees, then just combine the category for that actual year, instead of permanently.

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    Having looked through the rules a little more, my feeling now is that NATAS wanted to streamline the category rules to that in terms of submitting and nominating, younger performer worked the same way as the lead and supporting categories, and the best way to make that work is joining that categories together so that there were enough candidates to potentially have a pre-nom round for the younger performers.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    I really hate the combining of the categories but if so my five nominees would be:

    Olivia Rose Keegan (Claire, Days Of Our Lives)
    William Lipton (Cameron, General Hospital)
    Katelyn MacMullen (Willow, General Hospital)
    Eden McCoy (Josslyn, General Hospital)
    Garen Stitt (Oscar, General Hospital)

    I really want Eden and Garen to win and would be happy with either of them winning the award. The Oscar story was the best for me, with all 3 young actors involved giving my favorite performances in this category.

    I am enjoying Casey Moss’s performances right now. He just turned 26 so it is my understanding that his work over the next 6 weeks or so would be ineligible in this category (I think he could submit as Supporting Actor if he so chose to do so. He didn’t submit at all last year, probably because everybody thought he would win the year before and he got robbed of his Emmy).

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    Sean Phillips
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    Freeman the rules have changed; any work may now be submitted as long as the performer was 25 at some point in the submission year regardless if it aired after the performer turned 26.

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    EmmyLoser
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    GH has so many potential performers in play here, with the four you mentioned above Freeman as well as the two most recent younger actress winners, recurring Chloe Lanier and Hayley Erin, who popped in for a visit, and the actors playing Trina and Dev.

    DAYS also has Thia Megia (whose character was really never fun to watch but did have a lot of drama) along with past nominees Lucas Adams, Casey Moss and Victoria Konefal. If Moss submits, he’d really likely get nominated, even without whatever is coming down the pipe for him, but I’d be surprised if he did.

    It’s going to feel like something of a slugfest, though the younger actress category has had some very strong entries in the past. I think of exceptional reels from the last few years that lost (Casey Moss a couple of years ago and Camila Banus for Gabi’s confession to killing Nick — both her completely robbed) and it makes me worried that there’ll be one underwhelming winner.

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    syrus80
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    I still think this idea is terrible.

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