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  • FreemanGriffin
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    1. NANCY LEE GRAHN (Alexis, GH). So much great material! Julexis scenes, Molly wanting to have sex with T.J., Ric’s “death”, Julexis break-up scene (in December? I think…). I actually felt she had the material in 2014 for a Lead Actress nomination.

    2. MICHELLE STAFFORD (Nina, GH). At first I really liked Nina, then grew to dislike her but her acting performances were stellar. She did great work in the reveal that she didn’t need a wheelchair, confrontations with Silas and Sam, and esp. the induced labor episode with MW’s Ava, which I think should be her Emmy submission.

    3. FINOLA HUGHES (Anna, GH). Early in the year when Robin left again, fiery scenes with Dr. Olbrecht, her confession about Faison. Good decision to go Supporting for 2014.

    4. AMELIA HEINLE (Victoria, Y&R). She really belongs in Lead but… great work with the baby storyline. She acted opposite 3 Billys in 2014! I never liked her in this role until this past year. Loved her work with Meredith Baxter in particular.

    5. CADY McCLAIN (Kelly, Y&R). Great scenes between Kelly and Phyllis in December ought to be her Emmy reel. I had liked Cynthia Watros very much and it took me a while to warm to CMc but she won me over and is fascinating in the role.

    6. LINSEY GODFREY (Caroline, B&B). She might very well get a nomination for her back to back episodes on October 24 & 27 – the reveal about her reiationship with Ridge. This is the Emmy reel vs. consistency debate for me.

    7. ELIZABETH HENDRICKSON (ex-Chloe, Y&R). She has the Emmy reel material early in 2015 as Chloe goes nuts and steals Chelsea’s baby. I obviously prefer other actresses in the category.

    8. KIM MATULA (ex-Hope, B&B). Definitely a Lead Actress – the show revolved around Liam/Hope/Wyatt all year long. She did sensitive work and I suspect she would submit losing the baby scenes from right before she left the show.

    9. KELLY SULLIVAN (Sage, Y&R). I really like Sage and enjoy all of her scenes but I’m not sure there is a really strong Emmy reel for her to provide? I like her more than most of these others, but it’s the consistency vs. Emmy reel debate all over again!

    10. LISA Lo CICERO (Olivia, GH). She’s always good and the work she did with the breakup with Sonny was more than solid. I just don’t see her getting a nomination but who knows?

    11. CHRISHELL STAUSE (Jordan, Days). Disappointed this is the only Days pre-nomination in this category. Kristian Alfonso, Eileen Davidson, Deidre Hall, Lauren Koslow and Jen Lilley all did better work imo. She did have some solid scenes with Clyde to submit so who knows? 

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    gdfl
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    1.  Cady McClain.  When her best work aired last year I was sure it would be a two-woman race between her and Sofer.  And since Sofer isn’t on this list, I would love to see McClain win.  Does anyone know if there are any actors, other than Heather Tom, who have been nominated for 3+ shows?  Has anyone won for 3+ shows?

    2.  Michelle Stafford.  She brought a charm and heart to Nina that only an A-lister could pull off.  With any other actress I’m sure fans would be wanting this character gone.

    3.  Amelia Heinle.  I think she’ll make the ballot for sure considering the momentum from last year and the good work she has done, and I would not be too surprised or disappointed if she joined the small and elite group of repeat winners in this category.

    4.  Kim Matula.  She really grew into a wonderful actress, and brought something special to the baby scenes even though Emmy voters have seen those a lot.

    5.  Linsey Godfrey.  I love how well she does both comedy and drama.  Her style is a little more subtle than what is usually rewarded, but that is not to say that she isn’t deserving.   

    6.  Finola Hughes.  I think FH deserves to be held in the same regard as Flannery/Zimmer/etc and love that she is being used so much on GH at this point in her career.  Her story lines were so cartoonish this year though that I can’t see her being too competitive based on the material she was given.

    7.  Lisa LoCicero.  I’m surprised she hasn’t been nominated yet given her airtime and consistency.  I’m glad she’s made it this far, but would not be surprised if she doesn’t make the ballot nor disappointed if she does.

    8.  Kelly Sullivan.  I adore her and hope Y&R keeps her, but she wasn’t given anything meaningful to do in 2014.  Hell she barely had any airtime.

    9.  Nancy Lee Grahn.  My criticism of her is what a lot of people say about Maurice Benard: she’s great if good material is handed to her on a silver platter, but otherwise she phones it in.  I don’t have much respect for that, especially in a medium where there are other actors who work hard consistently and no matter what their characters are given.

    10.  Elizabeth Hendrickson.  It’s not that she wasn’t good, but she didn’t do enough or for long enough.

    11.  Chrishell Stause.  Freeman’s comments above say it well.  
     

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    9.  Nancy Lee Grahn.  My criticism of her is what a lot of people say about Maurice Benard: she’s great if good material is handed to her on a silver platter, but otherwise she phones it in.  I don’t have much respect for that, especially in a medium where there are other actors who work hard consistently and no matter what their characters are given.
     

    I completely disagree.

    I think what’s important to remember is
    that Alexis Davis is not Dorian Lord or Erica Kane or Ava Jerome or even
    Carly Corinthos or Snyder. She’s not a diva, femme fatale, vamp or
    villainess. Alexis is not the type to show out and have breakdowns every
    five minutes. She’s smart, successful, honest and law-abiding for the
    most part. She’s closer to a Victoria Lord or Lily Snyder or Nora Hanen
    Buchanan. But even Erika Slezak and Martha Byrne got to play alternate
    personalities or evil twins every once in a while to show range or
    variation. NLG’s been playing this role for almost 20 years now and has
    never had that opportunity. There’s really only so much you can do with
    this type of character to keep it interesting.

    Her character may
    be a bore at times, but I don’t think I’ve seen her phone-in a
    performance. Even when she was backburnered in the late 00’s, I still
    think she gave every scene she was given her all. I’ve seen bored actors
    who are just there for a paycheck (Tony Geary, Tyler Christopher and
    Maurice Benard have all qualified at one time or another). I would never
    put NLG in that category.

    I personally hope Finola wins this year, but I’d definitely support a nomination for NLG. She’s more than deserving.

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    gdfl
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    ^^  OLTLfan, I think you make some great points about the various types of soap characters, and how being (or having the opportunity to be) showy doesn’t necessarily make an actor more worthy of praise, or vice versa.  Often times I respect a good subtle performance over soapy histrionics.  It’s why I’ve always felt that actors like KKL and Amelia Heinle didn’t get enough credit in the past because they were bieng considered relative to the (overly) histrionic likes of Flannery and Tom respectively.  

    Now when it comes to NLG, I made those somewhat harsh comments because I don’t think that she unifies her character very well.  In her big moments, Alexis is either a saint or a victim.   The soap A-listers unify those into a layered complexity, which NLG does not.   And I say “does not” in a manner of ‘laziness’ rather than “cannot” in a manner of aptitiude becase she has had some great performances.  But those performances (including her Emmy winning reel) are only when Alexis is being either righteous or victimized.  Anything in between is a bland performance treated like filler. 

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Wow, gdfl, do we ever disagree about Nancy Lee Grahn! She NEVER phones it in, is always interesting, consistent, never lazy, and is never ever ever bland! Huh?

    By contrast, I find Katherine Kelly Lang to be incredibly inconsistent and often dull. Part of that is of course the writing and the repetitiveness of the plots on B&B. I never found Susan Flannery to be overly histrionic; however, I definitely would describe Heather Tom as overly histrionic!

    Obviously, I put NLG in first place out of the submitted actresses and she’s my pick (OUT OF THIS GROUP OF PRE-NOMINEES: Teresa Castillo, Kristian Alfonso, Deidre Hall, Jen Lilley, Lauren Koslow, Kirsten Storms, Jane Elliot, Leslie Charleson, Kellie Thiebaud and Robin Mattson were all deserving of Emmy consideration for 2014 – either they didn’t submit or were egregiously overlooked!) for the Emmy.

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    Give the Emmy to General Hospital‘s Lisa Lo Ciccero.

    Nominate The Bold and the Beautiful’s Linsey Godfrey.

     

    Move on.

     

    (By the way: the pre-nom voters *f’d* up this category with not
    including The Bold and the Beautiful‘s Rena Sofer and General Hospital‘s
    Kathleen Gati and Kirsten Storms.)

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    Wow, gdfl, do we ever disagree about Nancy Lee Grahn! She NEVER phones it in, is always interesting, consistent, never lazy, and is never ever ever bland! Huh?

    By contrast, I find Katherine Kelly Lang to be incredibly inconsistent and often dull. Part of that is of course the writing and the repetitiveness of the plots on B&B. I never found Susan Flannery to be overly histrionic; however, I definitely would describe Heather Tom as overly histrionic!

    Obviously, I put NLG in first place out of the submitted actresses and she’s my pick (OUT OF THIS GROUP OF PRE-NOMINEES: Teresa Castillo, Kristian Alfonso, Deidre Hall, Jen Lilley, Lauren Koslow, Kirsten Storms, Jane Elliot, Leslie Charleson, Kellie Thiebaud and Robin Mattson were all deserving of Emmy consideration for 2014 – either they didn’t submit or were egregiously overlooked!) for the Emmy.

    The disagreement is half the fun haha.

    Here’s why I love KKL:  In many scenes there was Flannery with her fist clenching, shouting, and posturing, which were all perfectly appropriate and well executed for the character of Stephanie.  But with Brooke’s outrageous antics, I think the only reason she has lasted this long and has any fan support at all is because KKL balances out the situation by being weepy, strong, and charming in the right doses at the right times.  Those qualities and acting choices is also why I think KKL deserves a lot of credit for carrying this show on her back for almost 30 years and becoming arguably one of the most popular soap stars world wide. 

    Back to NLG though, it’s probably not fair for me to judge her work ethic by saying she “phones it in” or is “lazy”.  Maybe I should just say instead that her work doesn’t connect with me.
     

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    This sort-of NLG vs. KKL debate is interesting!  It’s definitely interesting to consider how popular or well-liked a characters is versus how well-liked they should be.  This is a really big selling point for KKL, because Brooke is truly ridiculous, even by most soap standards.  But she’s so immensely popular, and I love her.  I take that against a character like her sister Katie, who I feel I probably should like for the most part based on the plotting for her, but I really dislike her.  It’s a big strike against an actor for me when that happens.  I’d also say I don’t usually connect with NLG’s work for whatever reason.  I’ve seen her give great performances, but yeah, for the most part, I don’t really care about Alexis at all.  Maybe that’s a minority opinion, considering the apparent popularity of Julexis, but there it is.

    By the way, DS0816, I’m loving your very brief takes on each category.   

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    By the way, DS0816, I’m loving your very brief takes on each category.   

     

    In the “Official 2015 Pre Nominations Thread,” I offered my first response: “You can tell that a Daytime Emmys’ Pre-Nominations list is bad when you realize it’s going to be a chore to determine who you would be okay with seeing make the official cut.”

     

    I wasn’t kidding.

     

    Between the lead and supporting races, addressing who appears on the Pre-Nomination ballot, I don’t find wanting more than three nominations from each of any of those four performance categories.

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    1) Michelle Stafford, General Hospital. The role is WAY over-the-top, and she plays crazy perfectly. A favorite of her peers, an official soap A-lister, she has a LOT of very strong scenes to select from for submission.

    2) Finola Hughes, General Hospital.  A veteran, she is honestly great in everything she is given, and one GH’s 2 winners in Emmy history in Lead Actress. Although her best material was every sporadic throughout the year (perhaps why she went Supporting), she should finally get nom’d for her recent return to GH. She should have been recognized last year for the dual role/lookalike episodes. 

    3) Amelia Heinle, The Young and the Restless. Her victory last year was a somewhat-nice win, especially being her first nomination after 2 decades in the industry. From what I’ve seen, she’s solid, and she probably still has a lot of aftermath of Delia’s death to submit.

    4) Cady McClain, The Young and the Restless. Another vet, and multi-winner, McClain has been very good on Y&R so far, and she’s most likely bound for a nomination.

    5) Lisa LoCicero, General Hospital. Lisa is overdue for GH, but there really isnt anything I specifically remember strong enough to submit…. However, there was probably something there with her fallout with Sonny. Personally love her and would love to see her finally acknowledged.

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    6) Linsey Godfrey, The Bold and the Beautiful. Although I personally thought her Younger Actress reel last year was really, really bad—comedic, and in no way dramatic whatsoever—supposedly, she grown into something solid and has some submission material with Thorsten Kaye.

    7) Nancy Lee Grahn, General Hospital. Nancy is killer in anything she’s given, and her scenes with Haley Pullos and Tequan Richmond were very strong–not Emmy-bait, but its probably what she submitted. She really surprised, however, with her win in 2012.

    8) Kim Matula, The Bold and the Beautiful. Kim has really grown as an actress on B&B, and most likely submitted the baby fallout. She was good, but not good enough to break into Supporting..

    9) Elizabeth Hendrickson, The Young and the Restless. Didn’t even know she had substantial material in 2014. She could have won last year.

    10) Chrishell Stause, Days of our Lives. How is she even on this list, above Kristian Alfonso? Lauren Koslow? Or Deidre Hall’s pop-ins during Ejami arguments? 

    11) Kelly Sullivan, The Young and the Restless. She’s not even a part of the principal cast.

     

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    LONGSHOTS
    Kelly Sullivan
    Crishell Stause

    Crishell
    Stause is a multi-soap vet with lots of friends in the industry and is
    the only actress on the ballot who is not competing with another actress
    from her own show. She should have any DAYS votes on lock. Kelly
    Sullivan just broke through with a nom last year, was very popular with
    her GH co-stars and now has mammoth Y&R behind her. Sadly, neither
    has even a passable reel.

    POSSIBLE
    Elizabeth Hendrickson
    Lisa LoCicero
    Linsey Godfrey
    Kim Matula

    I
    remember liking Kim Matula and Linsey Godfrey very much from their
    younger actress reels last year and apparently they have much baitier
    material to submit this year. But the younger to supporting jump is hard
    to make and unlike Sarah Brown and Julie Marie Berman, they never won
    in younger. I worry about Lisa LoCicero. When TVGuide’s Michael Logan
    named her his best supporting actress of 2014, he specifically cited the
    Ned/Olivia puppy scenes (7/29/14) plus she tweeted those were a
    favorite of hers. But I think it would be a mistake to submit comedy in
    such a competitive field that would cost her a shot at a deserving
    nomination. I hope she goes with the Sonny/Olivia breakup scenes
    (5/6/14) instead. Elizabeth Hendrickson was nominated last year and has
    baity reels to submit.

    LIKELY
    Cady McClain
    Nancy Lee Grahn

    NLG
    is a seven time nominee and one of a select few who has won this
    category twice. She’s clearly well-liked and has multiple strong
    submission possibilities ranging from TJ/Molly’s sexcapades to Ric’s
    “death” and Julexis’ multiple break-ups and hook-ups throughout the
    year. Cady McClain is also a multi-soap daytime vet with 2 previous Emmy
    wins. She has plenty of possible reels to make her competitive.

    LOCKS
    Amelia Heinle
    Michelle Stafford
    Finola Hughes

    Finola
    Hughes has five previous noms and one win. She’s always phenomenal but I
    hope she submits her Anna/Obrecht scenes from the beginning of the year
    (3/4/14). I thought she was fantastic in those scenes and they’d give
    her a strong chance at Emmy #2. Michelle Stafford has 10 nominations and
    2 wins. Nina Clay is batsh** crazy and Stafford plays the hell out of
    her. She has a ton of reels that should easily clinch her nom #11.
    Defending champ and lead actress Amelia Heinle should easily be able to
    category fraud her way to her second Emmy nom.

    Predicted Nominees:
    Nancy Lee Grahn as Alexis Davis (GH)
    Amelia Heinle as Victoria Newman (Y&R)
    Finola Hughes as Anna Devane (GH)
    Cady McClain as Kelly Andrews(Y&R)
    Michelle Stafford as Nina Clay (GH)

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    ^Interesting that your finalists are my personal top five – I hope you know something I don’t know! (; (like, what the Blue Ribbon Panel will decide over the next month!)

    Honestly, though, I don’t think Finola Hughes is a lock and don’t really expect her to make it to the final ballot. I have a crummy suspicion that Elizabeth Hendrickson is going to be on the final ballot. I like EH, but I don’t love her, and don’t think she should get another nomination. I must say that Linsey Godfrey has a MUCH better potential reel for 2014 than the awful reel she submitted last year, and Kim Matula will also likely have a potential reel that might garner a spot on the final ballot. My gut intuition thinks if Michelle Stafford submits the induced labor episode she will probably win. I’m rooting for Emmy #3 for Nancy Lee Grahn.

    (anybody else always type Michelle Stafford, Y&R by force of habit?)

    Based only on my gut intuition, I think these will be the final five nominees (subject to change if any of them submit poorly!):

    Nancy Lee Grahn, GH
    Amelia Heinle, Y&R
    Elizabeth Hendrickson, Y&R
    Kim Matula, B&B
    Michelle Stafford, Y&R

    But I want:

    Nancy Lee Grahn, GH
    Amelia Heinle, Y&R
    Finola Hughes, GH
    Cady McClain, Y&R
    Michelle Stafford, GH

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    When this was first posted, I didn’t respond because I had difficulty narrowing down to five. I still can only narrow it down to six:

    1. Lisa LoCicero: To me, she fits the true definition of supporting actress, unlike the other GH ladies. Much like her character, she rolls with the punches and always turns in strong performances.

    2. Cady McClain: Often when actors move to other soaps, they more or less play the same character under the guise of a different name. McClain has the distinction of creating three very different characters, each in a unique manner.

    3. Amelia Heinle: She had another year of strong material, and has more than demonstrated her ability to carry heavy, emotional scenes.

    4. Linsey Godfrey: She has a great range, playing comedy and drama equally well. I can’t say much for her storylines, but her performances are quite engaging.

    5. Tie: Finola Hughes/Nancy Lee Grahn: I am not really comfortable with Hughes in this category, despite the sporadic nature of her airtime. She is a wonderful actress, but is not given the best material. NLG is a long-time favorite of mine, and did great work with consistently weak material. But there was little new about her performances this year, and she has already won twice.

    Unlike everyone else, Michelle Stafford is not on my list. Her character has been written in a random and haphazard fashion, allowing her to deliver many over-the-top performances. I don’t have a problem with her being nominated, however. I have always loved her, but the lack of consistency with which her character has been written makes it difficult for me to evaluate her performance.

    Kim Matula is good, but I left her off the list because she voluntarily left the show. I really do not enjoy seeing awards handed out to departed actors (with a few exceptions). This is a tight category, and I would prefer to see the award go to a current daytime performer. I left off Elizabeth Hendrickson for the same reason.

    Although I enjoy both Kelly Sullivan and Chrishelle Stauss, I do not think either one had the material to land a nomination this year. 

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    What an eloguent and well-thought-out list, robbalto.  I so wish that the blue ribbon panel would put this much consideration into their decisions, instead of basically just weighing one performance with a healthy dose of partiality.

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    This is the one category where I have absolutely no idea which way the blue ribbon panel is going to go. It depends so much on WHO is on the panel; what the biases are; and whether they prefer over the top (Stafford, Stause, McClain, Hendrickson) or more subtle performances (everyone else). 

    My PREDICTION on here is two from GH and two from Y&R: Nancy Lee Grahn and Michelle Stafford from GH, and Amelia Heinle and Elizabeth Hendrickson from Y&R – but I have NO confidence in this prediction. (I keep thinking Lisa LoCicero’s name is going to be on the list – if we could predict five, I “see” her making the cut). I get in my own way on predictions; I stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the possibility of certain actors and actresses from getting nominated! I know Kim Matula will have a really good Emmy reel but I’m not sure if she will be able to break in to the Supporting Actress category (same with Linsey Godfrey – I wonder if her accident will influence voters?)

    Who I WANT to see nominated: Nancy Lee Grahn, Finola Hughes, Lisa LoCicero and Michelle Stafford from GH. I thought Amelia Heinle did her best acting ever in 2014 (and much more Emmy-deserving than her work in 2013) but my problem with her is that she was so much a LEAD actress in ’14 that I can’t root for her in THIS category!

    (Of course, several actresses ought to have been pre-nominated, esp. Teresa Castillo (Sabrina) of GH, who did terrific work in the first half of ’14, despite being gone for much of the time on maternity leave! I voted for her in the Goldies). 

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