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  • belzoni1982
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    Show has been crazy good the last couple of weeks.

    It feels like a sweeps type of month

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Cynthia Watros has been great lately – her scenes with Liesl and Sonny today were super strong!

    I wonder how Cameron will react to learning that Joss is with Dex? I think we may get an angry Cam for awhile…

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    EmmyLoser
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    I keep worrying that Nina won’t be a match for Willow, not because I’m concerned Willow will die, but because it would just be another avenue for the writers to have Nina behave desperately in ways that nearly everyone would judge her for later. If Nina is out, that leaves as options Wiley and the new baby. Considering that Willow’s Mother Theresa act had her saying she’d rather die than birth this baby one minute early, I’m sure she’d need a lot of convincing to take bone marrow from either child, and Nina would be the main person pushing her to do it.

    The show continues to be very good lately. The Sonny/Carly argument was good, and I’m glad that Sonny got to have the last word. I think the show is also presenting a little more balanced of a perspective than they have been where Carly and her actions are concerned. There is a lot of talk about how Carly’s keeping the secret about Willow/Nina essentially denied Willow a treatment option, but of course the counterpoint is that Willow refused to tell anyone she was sick. But I like that Michael’s issue is that Carly should have told Willow (even if not Nina) the truth immediately about Nina being her mother and let Willow make her own decisions about it, which is more than fair. The show also cast Joss’s rush to defend her mother’s actions as basically her identifying with Carly because Joss is also lying to Cam about why she broke up with him.

    The Spencer/Ava scenes were great, and I also really loved the scenes with Cam and Spencer. The two of them balance one another so well, and it’s really sweet the way they look out for each other. If they weren’t basically cousins, I’d be shipping them even harder than Sprina. (Can you tell that I love Spencer?) I did feel bad for Joss when she felt like Spencer was just abandoning her to take Cam’s side, but that also felt realistic for 20-year-olds.

    Another note: Now that Austin has grown his hair back into a reasonable style, is no longer with Maxie, and is basically just being a background character and supporting Maxie’s extended family, I like him so much more. Hard to overstate how off-putting that undershave haircut was for him.

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    OLTLfan
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    Aren’t Obrecht and some of Maxie’s kids related to Willow through Nina, too now?

    I keep worrying that Nina won’t be a match for Willow, not because I’m concerned Willow will die, but because it would just be another avenue for the writers to have Nina behave desperately in ways that nearly everyone would judge her for later. If Nina is out, that leaves as options Wiley and the new baby. Considering that Willow’s Mother Theresa act had her saying she’d rather die than birth this baby one minute early, I’m sure she’d need a lot of convincing to take bone marrow from either child, and Nina would be the main person pushing her to do it.

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    Sean Phillips
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    Obrecht and James are yes.  Also I can’t wait for Leisl to have a scene with Michael and call him names like “buzzkill” or “weenie” or “mama’s boy.”

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    EmmyLoser
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    Yes, I wasn’t thinking about Obrecht and James. The thought of Obrecht getting involved in Willow and Michael’s lives, and not dealing with their nonsense, is kind of delightful.

    Tuning into this show and having like three days every week where one or more of Carly, Josslyn, Michael and Willow say truly insane things about Nina and/or Sonny, totally unchallenged and generally supported by one another or Drew, is really starting to wear me down. Sonny left their family to run away with Nina? Nina has tried time and again to destroy their family? Even Harmony, who pimped Willow out to a cult leader, is a better mother than Nina would be? These people could greatly benefit from some therapy, especially Joss and Willow.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Tuning into this show and having like three days every week where one or more of Carly, Josslyn, Michael and Willow say truly insane things about Nina and/or Sonny, totally unchallenged and generally supported by one another or Drew, is really starting to wear me down. Sonny left their family to run away with Nina? Nina has tried time and again to destroy their family? Even Harmony, who pimped Willow out to a cult leader, is a better mother than Nina would be? These people could greatly benefit from some therapy, especially Joss and Willow.

    Yes, yes and more yes! particularly irritating that they keep on bringing up how awful it was of her to drag them into court for visitation rights to HER grandson! Oh brother! Just make it stop!

    So looking forward to today’s show!

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    EmmyLoser
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    ^^I know! Every time they say she dragged them into court, it’s like they’ve left out half of the sentence, that they were not only refusing to let her see her grandson but had at that point told her they were NEVER going to let her see him. What did she have to lose? Sorry she couldn’t amicably get on board with being excluded from her grandchild’s life and just let you do that in peace. Imagine if Morgan showed up alive with a baby and told Carly she could never see that child. Think of all the things she would do.

    Good scenes yesterday with Joss and Cam. I’m enjoying all the drama happening with the younger characters. Joss fully pretending that nothing was going on with her and Dex before she broke up with Cam and honestly seeming to believe that her relationship with Dex had nothing to do with the breakup is so Carly that it’s unsettling. And to stand there and say she doesn’t owe him anything, after she asked him if they could still be friends and he was only coming over to do just that? Poor Cam.

    With Austin having spent so much more time with Britt lately and then having good scenes with Ava, I had forgotten about all the stuff with Mason and their mysterious boss, but I’m hoping they can wrap that up soon. If they can successfully put Austin into Ava’s orbit, it could salvage that character (that and the makeover they’ve given him — he looks so much better than when he was first being Austin).

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Does anybody know Marcus Coloma’s last air date? It feels like there is much more story to tell but I don’t think GH films all that far ahead so I think he is off the show very soon – I wonder who will be playing the role and for how long?

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    EmmyLoser
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    I believe I’ve read that he will last air at the end of January, which, including today, would give five more episodes at most. Then there is the whole business of Coloma not filming his final episodes, either because of COVID exposure or because of feelings, depending on whether or not you believe his reps. So his exit will probably feel even more abrupt in light of that.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Kelly Thiebaud mentioned in her interview with Michael Fairman that she has submitted for Emmy consideration but she didn’t say which category she submitted in… (she also said she didn’t feel she had much material but I would hope she submitted scenes surrounding her health diagnosis and maybe some of the birthday party scenes)…

    While I liked Carly and Josslyn’s talk I did not like Olivia and Drew’s talk – why does this show spend so much energy justifying and championing Carly’s behavior? and denigrating Nina?

    Anyway… the show has been really good lately. Glad that Anna and Valentin were on to Renee…

    Anybody else sense that Lulu is going to be waking up from her coma soon?

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    EmmyLoser
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    Thank goodness Anna and Valentin got the upper hand on his horny alleycat of an ex-lover and successfully rescued Lucy. I like when the show takes the opportunity to actually show us Anna being very good at spy stuff instead of just saying it all the time.

    On the other hand, some things in the Drew/Olivia conversation were all about telling and not showing (and frankly things not even being true). People are constantly talking about how great Willow is, and Drew repeated that in this episode, but I don’t understand why. There was a time when I would have understood that, but over the last couple of years, she really hasn’t done anything all that wonderful. Abandoned her teaching career to become a nurse? Okay. Cheated on Chase with Michael rather than telling him the truth because she’s too much of a coward to face things head-on and finds conversations about Wiley to be a powerful aphrodisiac? Got it. Displayed a contemptuous lack of compassion and reason in not being able to get along with Wiley’s grandmother and pretending her decisions about Wiley’s well-being and not her own insecurities about not being Wiley’s biological mother and wanting to score brownie points with Michael? Sure.

    I also have always thought the Olivia/Carly friendship didn’t really make sense. Olivia sacrificed a lot, including her reputation, to make sure that Dante didn’t grow up with the dangers that Sonny’s burgeoning mob life would entail, while Carly actively endangered all of her children, including the one she took from his actual father and had Sonny raise instead, for the money, power, and status that being with Sonny would give her. It’s not that the two of them have to be enemies, but the purported depth of this friendship seems like BS, especially since Carly does nothing to help Olivia ever. How is Olivia not even bothered that Carly left her vulnerable in her stunt with putting up her half of the Metro Court to get involved in Drew and Michael’s business and help screw over Olivia’s husband? That was their actual plan, and Carly went out of her way to help. It’s insane.

    The Carly/Joss conversation was good, though I feel like these two have a lot of good mother/daughter conversations, and the show could afford to spread the wealth a little with this kind of thing. It’s interesting that Carly’s whole involvement with mob stuff is contextualized as being about Jason, to the point where it feels like her whole relationship with Sonny was an extension of what she wanted but couldn’t have with Jason. That feels right to me, but then you’d think that would add a different context to all of the problems Carly and Sonny had when he came back from Nixon Falls. Michael, Joss, and Carly have blamed all of those problems on Sonny and Nina, and there’s no discussion of Carly not being able to accept Sonny’s changes partly because she was now trying to make up for what she thought she was finally going to get with Jason.

    It’s really nice to be getting Spencer/Trina scenes lately.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    ^Great analysis EmmyLoser! (:

    So now that Nina isn’t a match – does Silas have any other children who could be a match? Wiley? or James? Here is my way out there scenario: Nelle is somehow alive and blackmails Michael: in exchange for her bone marrow she gets Wiley! (; I really don’t care all that much about Saint Willow but I do care about Nina…

    Drew is Carly’s lapdog and then some – I thought they were supposed to be staying away from each other due to insider trading?

    I hope Sasha really unleashes on Gladys when she finds out about her deceit… Nice to see Selina again albeit briefly…

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    Sean Phillips
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    Silas’ only other child that we knew about was Kiki.  There was the one who thought he was a vampire, Caleb, and he had a son Rafe but they’re all dead.  With Britt gone it’s down to Liesl, James, and Wiley.

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    EmmyLoser
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    As much as I didn’t love Nelle, the idea of her being secretly alive and emerging to blackmail Michael in order to give Willow bone marrow is really fun. Michael and Willow would probably both benefit from being actually tormented by an actual villain (rather than treating their family disagreements like persecution).

    What is the deal with Sasha’s family? Did she not have one or not know who her biological parents were? I’m thinking: What if everyone else gets tested in light of Nina not being a match, and Sasha matches with Willow. This prompts some digging, and they find out that Sasha is also Silas’s daughter (not hard to imagine Silas had another child he didn’t know about). That would make her and Willow sisters, which would be nice for her, and also make Nina a quasi-pseudo-stepmom to her. (This would also be a FOURTH daughter of Silas that Michael has slept with.) If Sasha is going to stick around, she needs more than Gladys (who really they should get rid of after this poker fiasco) as an anchor. She’s getting closer with Cody, but he also won’t really help. I would not be in favor of her and Chase getting together. In any event, I’m interested to see where the show goes from here.

    I know I’ve complained about these people enough this week, but it is unbelievable to me that after a week or so of Carly pretending incrementally to be more and more sorry about her secret-keeping and lying, everyone she cares about is just over it and she and Drew have now moved their relationship into the sex-having phase. Most people getting over it quickly seems fine, since they for some reason believe her intentions were good and whatever, but she involved herself in Drew’s investigation for the purpose of actively sabotaging it. What she did to him was so pointed and just such a violation of their whole relationship, and it seems like it should have been more of a sticking point. This reminds me of when Nina found out that Jax had been conspiring with Carly to keep her from finding out that Nelle was her daughter. Perpetrating that kind of deception against someone you’re in a relationship with feels like a dealbreaker to me.

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