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    EmmyLoser
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    Yeah, Cynthia is absolutely SLAYING. I also find the chemistry between Sonny and Nina really electric. I think Maurice Benard is really enjoying exploring Sonny and Nina’s dynamic, and it really comes across on screen. The character interactions are so interesting to watch, and Sonny is a bit at a disadvantage, because Nina is the same Nina he fell in love with as Mike, but Nina seems to be constantly assessing the degree to which her affection for Mike could translate to Sonny.

    Ava has also gotten her groove back, which I love. It was great how her interaction with Carly started out perfectly civil, but then Carly, in Carly fashion, had to go with the threats and the yelling, so Ava hit her with a couple of digs before leaving. And I loved how she just did not care that Nina was on the phone when she came into her office.

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    I can tell that Maura is having a great time playing these much better written scenes for her. I really enjoyed her scenes with Nina today, a real friendship where they are on to each other’s foibles and manipulations. It is amazing that the two of them are friends but that theme of forgiveness is very strong on General Hospital.

    They are doing a great job with the complexities of the Nina/Sonny/Carly/Jason quad storyline. The writing is stellar. Loved that Jason was honest with Sonny, loved that Carly reacts to the cowboy hat and realizes he was a different person in Nixon Falls, and Sonny is clearly upset that Carly and Jason were going to have a sexual relationship if he hadn’t returned in time. Nina is right that Sonny was happier as Mike in Nixon Falls.

    I still don’t get why Esme isn’t getting arrested. Looking forward to the conversation between Ava and Cameron tomorrow. Trina, Cam and Joss showing up for their friend Spencer and Esme snarking at them was really good too. I have a strong feeling that Esme is another Carly/Nelle character who has ties to someone on the canvas and I am thinking it might be Ava…

    Maxie refereeing the fight between Brooklynn and Austin was terrific. I am looking forward to the conversation between the two women tomorrow. Austin didn’t actually break confidentiality in the usual sense and Britt is just doing her job but knows she is being manipulated. I do like they are showing Britt to be very good at her job. Britt asking Jason for help with finding Liesl is an interesting twist…

    Not looking forward to more Drew storyline tomorrow ): But there does look to be a whole lot of great stuff carrying over from today’s episode tomorrow. Today’s episode was yet another one in which every single scene was interesting. Tomorrow won’t be but it will still be worth watching.

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    Two loose ends: why haven’t the Novaks and that other crime family retaliated over the deaths of their family leaders? (and why did the police never bring Jason in for questioning?); and was Dante after de-programmed when it came to that clicking noise and killing Peter??? Just wondering aloud!

    The Friday show was good. Sonny is angry about Carly and Jason almost having sex! He almost had sex with Nina and only didn’t because Nina felt guilty about it and stopped before it happened.

    Why didn’t they show the scene where Ava lays out her terms to Spencer? I assumed it would be to give up Esme as part of it? Otherwise I am loving that Ava is behaving like Ava again!

    So Drew has been programmed and was the one who shot up the joint? This storyline would work better for me if they had brought Billy Miller back to the role of Drew. It’s the one storyline that isn’t really doing much for me at the moment (there has been a bit of a respite from all the mob stuff for the most part).

    I assume we will get a Friday cliffhanger episode on Monday since everything has been pushed back a day in their scheduling (due to showing a repeat during a breaking news story).

    I am going through my weekend GH withdrawal!!! (;

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    The show finally got me to be interested in Drew, by having him shirtless. Who do you think is shaving him in that prison to keep that torso so smooth? Maybe one of the guards is into it. It seems like, based on this week’s SOD cover, we’re going to get a lot of focus on the Drew story this week, which means maybe we’ll resolve some things and get Drew, Liesl, and Valentin out of captivity.

    I believe that after Sam found Dante about to kill Peter, Dante worked with Kevin to have that conditioning removed from his brain. Theoretically, it shouldn’t work anymore, but as we can see with Drew, getting one set of programming out doesn’t mean there’s not another layer that could be accessed with a password or a tarot card or what have you.

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    52!

    52!

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    Peter (Henrik) is so tiresome – I have to wonder if his being Laura Wright’s boyfriend in real life may be affecting their bad decision to keep him on the show? Get rid of him! I am so sick of the very sight of him but I know they have to get him back to Port Charles to finish the baby Louise story…

    The rescuing Drew was actually o.k.

    I found the Portia and Curtis scenes distracting because the rest of the episode was more of an action episode – I would have preferred for their conversation to have happened on a different episode.

    Glad the weekend is over and I was able to get my GH fix!!! (;

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    It was sort of strange having Curtis and Portia talking about Curtis’s background — with a mystery man very conspicuously watching 20 feet away — in the middle of an episode otherwise focused on everything happening in Crete. Throwing Maxie scenes in would have been more cohesive, but I was glad to see Portia and Curtis, who have not had much screen time since Jordan left.

    The Peter stuff is, at this point, unbelievable. The show would have been better off picking a lane for him where Peter is good at X, so then whenever that happens, it’s something we can accept. But he’s just doing everything, and none of it feels believable. Why would all of Victor’s guards just accept more money from Peter to betray Victor in his own compound rather than letting Victor know what was going on and getting the more money from him instead? Then when Peter shot Valentin he was, what, just invisible behind them? And managed to shoot Drew several times before Drew could shoot him with that machine gun? And also somehow was also fine after Drew attacked him in the cell? It’s insane. I can see why people/the writers might want Peter to get back to Port Charles to play a final beat in the Louise story, but honestly I’m happy with the amount of drama we’ll get just from the revelation Bailey is Louise and Peter can get popped by Robert right here and now. But the action was exciting anyway. And of course Peter was going to get away for a while, since there are still two waves of would-be rescuers — Dante and Sam and Jason and Britt — theoretically on their way.

    I enjoyed the scenes with Britt, Jason, Scott and Spinelli. I also liked Liesl helping Drew resist the brainwashing.

    It seems to be a general assumption among fans that Wes Ramsey’s relationship with Laura Wright is what got him the Peter job in the first place and the four-year contract they gave him. I think that’s where the nickname “Parking Lot Peter” comes from, the idea that Frank met Wes in the parking lot (presumably through LW) and gave him the job after that. And a majority of fans have wanted him off the show since Liesl had him tied up in that cabin like three years ago.

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    Disappointed that they are back to the mind control foolishness yet again, and that Peter has become the new Faison ): His smirkiness is beyond irritating!

    Looks like we will get back to most of the stories I care about on tomorrow’s episode. I could live without the mob stuff and all of the Peter/Drew stuff.

    I like Wes Ramsey but not as Peter (Henrik).

    Today’s episode wasn’t a good one for me.

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    I suppose Drew still being under Peter’s control does answer the questions about how Peter seemed to just get away from Drew and why Drew missed Peter despite firing like a hundred shots with that machine gun. This also would make more sense with the setup of how Liesl told Drew to resist the mind control. It would seem weird for them to just say, “Yup, that worked!” without seeing Drew struggle or anything. And why does Peter want to bother with keeping Liesl? I’m glad she’s still alive, but I don’t really see why Peter wouldn’t just kill her. I’m sure we’ll get some kind of explanation. Anyway, this story is not the best, but it’s almost November sweeps, so I’m hoping for a thrilling conclusion in the next few weeks.

    A good performance from James Patrick Stuart with Valentin thinking he was dying. Since I feel pretty confident he’ll be fine, I was surprised that I teared up when he was talking about not seeing his daughters again and all that.

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    There were surprises today: Jeff Webber’s phone call to Elizabeth (could Richard Dean Anderson be persuaded to do a guest stint as Jeff? I think he’s still alive?); and Jason and Britt off on a new adventure. I was fine with the two of them going their separate ways but they do have great chemistry so I will see where this goes… Also: what charges could Michael look to bring against Nina? Is not telling the truth about Sonny’s identity a crime? IDK actually…

    I think they need to move on from these repetitive scenes of Olivia not wanting to bring Leo to a specialist – we get it already – just have him go and get the proper diagnosis and move on with the storyline.

    I really hope they work on wrapping up the baby Louise/Bailey baby switch story over the next few months (by Christmas) and they really really really need to kill off Peter once and for all!

    I do wish Sonny would be shown remembering the good times with Nina…

    It was an o.k. episode, nothing great but nothing awful either.

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    I feel so bad for Nikolas. Obviously he should not have fake stabbed Spencer and probably should have considered that he was terrorizing Trina, Cam and Joss in addition to Spencer, but I don’t think it was nearly as horrible a plan as Laura was making it out to be. Laura came down on him really hard. It felt especially harsh when she started talking about Florence Grey. I can understand that she expects less from someone like Carly and is less concerned about her moral compass (I guess, though honestly Laura just seems very on board with all of Carly’s crap, which I really dislike), but to act like Nikolas is so much worse than Carly in that scenario is kind of absurd. She immediately betrayed Laura’s trust to kidnap an elderly woman. I also did not need Carly coming in to get in Nikolas’s face about his parenting. Her track record is abysmal. No one should be as cool as they’ve been about Joss being approached by Joey Novak considering that mob-related stuff got Morgan killed and Michael both put in a coma and sent to prison where he was raped. Anyway, I look forward to eventually getting my ‘Nikolas Was Right’ tee shirt with Marcus Coloma’s pretty face on the back.

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    Michael very shadily trying to get Nina prosecuted is the most interesting thing he’s done since he took custody of Avery from Sonny, and hopefully will lead to his dullsville character becoming more interesting. The Saint Michael narrative is not only tired but also inaccurate. I agree, though, I don’t know what specific crime he’s thinking she committed. I don’t think anything related to not telling Sonny about his identity is criminal in any way, and I’m sure Michael doesn’t know about the breaking & entering she was doing with Sonny to take down Elijah. Do they all know about the Peter situation? It could be a harboring a fugitive charge maybe? It also seems like these people truly don’t understand that Sonny was gone and presumed dead for months before Nina knew anything about it. Or maybe Michael doesn’t want Nina prosecuted necessarily but wants her to have to go back to Nixon Falls as part of a criminal investigation, like the arson at the Tan-O or something? I don’t know. It seems like Michael knows very little about what happened in Nixon Falls, so it’s hard to guess.

    I too have gotten tired of how stagnant every scene involving Olivia discussing Leo has become. If Olivia isn’t going to do anything with this credible recommendation from two doctors, then I guess she isn’t, but I don’t need her to say that over and over again in scenes that go in circles. I’m assuming Ned will want to do something more to get Olivia to face the issue, but it’s getting very repetitive in the meanwhile.

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    Surprised that Austin has relinquished his claim to ELQ stocks but I am glad he has – this story needs to move on. Perhaps he will start to remember what really happened in the woods when Louise was born? Austin hasn’t been a hit with me but so long as we have him I would prefer for him to further some stalled plots…

    I found Sonny totally obnoxious today both with Spencer and also with Ava. Thug Sonny is back. I do wish he would have some happy memories of his time as Mike with Nina going forward. I am not looking forward to hearing what his condition is with Ava but I bet it will have to do with her friendship with Nina.

    Carly was totally annoying yet again today and now she has a cohort in boring Willow ):

    It is clear that Spencer will take the deal and stay out of jail… I do love that Ava is behaving more like herself now that the stalker has been revealed.

    I am thinking Phyllis will be in charge of Charlie’s.

    Several storylines have stalled and need immediate attention!

    When is Laura returning? We need her back on the show!

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    Once the Tan-O burned down, I thought Phyllis might buy Charlie’s and run it, which would keep her in town and as a friend for Nina and Sonny without necessarily needing to involve her heavily in story. (Kristina seems to be running Charlie’s currently and we only see her one a quarter!)

    Sonny and Carly were both kind of typically annoying today, though Sonny did compromise with Ava, so it was an improvement. I didn’t love the scenes with Spencer — he won’t help Spencer he didn’t follow the Sonny’s mob code, okay. I imagined that whatever else Sonny has to say to Ava is about Spencer and/or Nikolas rather than about Nina, but it could be anyway. I’m kind of glad the writers haven’t leaned into making Spencer all that sympathetic. Nikolas and Ava really aren’t asking that much of him, and he’s responding about the same way he would as a 10-year-old, which kind of shows you that they’re right and he needs to learn a lesson and mature from all of this.

    The scenes with Carly and Willow were fairly interesting. For one thing, Willow mentioned Nina watching everyone grieve at Sonny’s funeral, which definitely made it sound like they think Nina knew Sonny was alive for longer than she did. It seems like Carly must realize that Nina only went to Nixon Falls and learned Sonny was alive after their fight at Sonny’s funeral, but maybe she’s so angry she can’t see that. This also tracks with Michael’s story the other day about Avery being confused about Sonny coming back and thinking Mike might also come back. Obviously it’s upsetting to see your darling little sister upset and crying, but blaming this on Nina is just dumb. Sonny went missing and got amnesia because he was hunting down Julian and fell into a river as a result. No one knew where he was for months, including Nina. But it seems like the other Corinthoses genuinely think that Nina saw Sonny in Nixon Falls like three days after he disappeared and just kept it from them the whole time. It was kind of a trip watching Carly talk about how Nina believes these fantasies and acts on them and in the same conversation blame Nina for putting her in the danger of having to step in and run Sonny’s organization. It’s delusional. Willow seems to not be really buying all of Carly’s crap and also isn’t on board with Carly and Michael wanting to take Nina down, so that should cause some tension that could make things more interesting going forward.

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    I wasn’t happy with Spencer’s arraignment – why have Kevin and Laura decided to bail him out? I really don’t get Spencer’s animosity towards Ava after all this time – get over it already! Why did Esme want Spencer to plead guilty? Perhaps a trial would bring up her involvement more fully? Those scenes didn’t add up for me, I found them a bit disappointing ):

    So both Sonny and Nina want to buy Charlie’s for Phyllis and neither have bothered to check with Phyllis if it is something she would want to do.

    Sidney Mikayla has dropped to recurring due to her college schedule – I wonder how this will affect story going forward?

    Jon Lindstrom deciding to only be on the show part-time has definitely affected story since the whole what is Ryan up to feels permanently stalled…

    I feel badly for Roger Howarth – at least for me Austin isn’t working out all that well. He’s o.k. but he’s no Todd Manning or Franco Baldwin ): He’s really not needed on the canvas, has no real connections with anyone. I like him with Maxie but I would much prefer for Maxie to be paired with Chase.

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