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    Nicole is killing me! Is no one other than Sami going to say anything? Her and Eric saying Allie got upset because “she found out” (as if by magic) about Sami going to talk to Rafe, and then saying that Sami didn’t want them to call Will/Sonny because she was hoping Allie would bond with the baby. You know Nicole doesn’t care what Sami wants — she sure didn’t care that she didn’t want her in that delivery room — and the only reason she didn’t override Sami’s decision and tell Eric to call Will was because she still wants Rafe to get the baby just to spite Sami. I look forward to Sonny trying to tell Sami off, thought it’ll probably result in Sami letting it slip that Will already knew what she’d done.

    The Ben brainwashing scenes are so insanely campy, but I’m kind of loving them. It almost goes without saying, but Robert Scott Wilson looks absolutely incredible in those scenes. Looking that hot while also acting deserves special recognition.

    I also really liked the Ciara/Hope/Shawn/Claire scenes and how connected the writing for them was. It was cool that they were at the .com cafe, the place that was introduced in the Last Blast Reunion web series, and that they got in touch with Chloe, who lives in New York and is friends with Eve. I also liked them bringing up that Hope had pretty recently gone to see Eve to apologize for the Princess Gina stuff. The scenes the other day where Ciara and Claire were trying to figure out who would have planted the bomb were also good, and at times hilarious. Can you imagine someone thinking Sonny would plant that bomb? This is a man who gets dressed up every day to drive Arianna around and read her stories.

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    As much as I like having Eve back on the scene and getting to see Ben shirtless, I am finding the torturing of Ben scenes to be very disturbing. I can’t watch the torture scenes. Ben has been beaten down so much since his redemption. And it is just too soon for yet another brainwashing storyline.

    It completely makes sense for Eve to want to exact revenge against Ben but the fact that she would have an innocent Ciara killed is just too much (not to mention any other collateral consequences from turning Ben into a killer). I guess we have to accept that she has become demented after all the she has suffered between losing Paige and being framed for Jennifer‘s fall. I just hope that the brainwashing happens quickly and things don’t go according to Eve’s plan.

    I also do really like the scenes with Ciara, Claire, Hope and Shawn.

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    I think Eve feels like Ciara is an acceptable sacrifice because Ciara is the one who prevented Ben from being executed for Jordan’s murder. Not that she deserves it per se, but she doesn’t not deserve it. And it probably helps even more that Hope, as Gina, was responsible for her spending a year in prison for a crime she didn’t commit, and a little revenge wouldn’t hurt in that case either. But yes, in the end, I do think Eve’s just been pushed over the edge by the combination of having lost Paige and seeing Ben become more or less the town hero, married to a beautiful young woman who is practically Salem royalty.

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    Allie’s behavior towards Sami is obnoxious and Sami is sure to be pissed with who Allie chooses to raise her baby.

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    Agreed that Allie’s behavior toward Sami, and in general, has become obnoxious. I think it kind of works in that she’s essentially doing so much of the same stuff Sami is doing — like she’s working harder to browbeat Rafe into adopting the baby than Sami was to keep him from doing it — but it’s annoying that no one is calling her out for being somewhat unreasonable about some things. I haven’t seen what Allie is going to do with the baby, but I have a guess, and certainly there are lots of options that would be less palatable to Sami than Rafe, one that’s particularly revolting.

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    There’s still so many things wrong with the Sami/Allie/Nicole saga.

    Sami and Will are being painted as villains with Saint Nicole on the opposite end. Allie doesn’t even know that Nicole stole Sydney from Sami. And Eric should see both sides of the coin but he’s busy bashing Sami and not taking Nicole to task for being an instigator.

    And Sonny? Oh gurl. Calm down. Y’all still have the option to hire a surrogate.

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    Yeah, totally agree. I get that Eric can’t just agree while Sami trashing his wife, but when he said to Sami not to ever insult his wife again, she should have told him that he should have thought twice about that before marrying a woman who had stolen her child. I can’t believe that Allie truly wouldn’t know this history, and that no one around would have bothered to tell her, like maybe Lucas or Kate. It’s pretty storyline convenient how people like Roman, Marlena and Kate have been so uninvolved in this story since Sami arrived. This is the level of chicanery it takes to make Nicole, a woman who just spent over a year lying to Eric about a baby, look like the only trustworthy option here. It’s very frustrating. When Eric read that note saying Allie wants Nicole to raise her baby, Nicole looked kind of terrified that Sami was going to strangle her, and rightly so. Do you think Allie even knows her grandfather Bill died? Do you think anyone told her? Most of her family didn’t know where she was when it happened, so I doubt she heard at the time. I’m sure she doesn’t care, but still.

    And Sonny is being over the top ridiculous carrying on about Will not telling Allie or him about Sami talking to Rafe. It’s hilarious how many times he’s whined about already having told Ari she was getting a baby brother. All she’s ever done when they talk about another baby is roll her eyes. She does not care.

    I would absolutely love it if the show gave Will and Sonny some real drama and just had Will go out and get drunk and then go home/almost hook up with someone else. Before Will was murdered, he and Sonny had a lot of issues stemming largely from Will feeling like he settled down with Sonny too quickly without much sexual exploration. When Will came back, Sonny immediately dumped Paul and started trying to force Will back into the life he was somewhat unhappily trapped in before he was killed. The show eventually had Will get his memory back and go back to Sonny like none of that other stuff had ever happened. It seems worth exploring, especially since they’ve been making Will a much less exciting character than he should be and since while Will was dating Paul and then in prison, Sonny was hooking up with murderers. Two murderers in a row. It’s all a moot point anyway, of course, because Will and Sonny will soon be gone, but they’ve really dropped the ball on having this couple be interesting.

    Anyway, justice for Sami, who’s being treated like a criminal for having the audacity to tell her ex-husband she hates the idea of him adopting her daughter’s baby.

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    Yesterday’s episode had me laughing out loud. The scenes between Gabi and Jake and between Gwen, Jennifer and Jack were hilarious. Jennifer’s facial reactions to all of the things Gwen was saying were great. I also loved Gwen wiping off the bottle of wine and offering it back to Jennifer and Jack after she’d been drinking from it. The Abe and Kate scenes were funny too.

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    We’ve finally arrived at the episodes they filmed after the show’s big hiatus between Thanksgiving and late January/early February, and some of the differences are pretty noticeable (aside from Gabi’s cute haircut and Will growing a beard over the course of an afternoon). The pace before the break had really picked up. The storylines were kept exciting and something interesting was happening almost every day. It felt like quite a downshift in (I think) Wednesday’s episode, when Nicole and Eric spent all their scenes reading Allie’s interminable letter lauding their parental skills (she wrote all that in the time it took Sami to return the baby to the nursery?), and Will and Sonny made up in incredibly boring fashion. Will super casually saying, “Okay, let’s call the surrogate” just made Sonny whole response to this situation seem even more ridiculous. In hindsight it feels like a silly plot contrivance that they even wanted Allie’s baby so bad rather than going the surrogacy route and having a baby who isn’t also their niece or nephew.

    With Olivia Rose Keegan wrapping her stint and Isabel Durant starting as Claire, it also feels like the cast shift/exodus has officially begun. I’ve read that Galen Gering’s last air date is August 28, just a couple of weeks away, and that Freddie Smith’s is September 1. I thought I remembered reading that Freddie and Chandler Massey didn’t have the same last air date, that Chandler had another couple of episodes after Freddie, but I could be mixed up on that. I think all of these dates account for DAYS being off-schedule due to the postponement of the French Open and the Olympics this summer.

    Also, it continues to astound me that Brady left with Kristen six weeks ago and no one even seems to miss him. Seems like Phillip will be back very soon, and I guess they’ll have to mention Brady at that point???

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    I haven’t been liking the new Claire. Definitely a major difference from Emmy-winning Olivia Rose Keegan. Also, great news that Camila Banus is back full-time as Gabi so only a short break for her. Girl needs a paycheck during these tough times.

    https://www.tvinsider.com/945490/camila-banus-returning-days-of-our-lives-gabi/

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    Haha, I was very happy to see the news about Camila Banus! I wonder if some other casting change news will shift somewhat over the next few weeks (mostly I’m thinking either Victoria Konefal agreeing to be basically full-time recurring for the next stretch of time or the show asking Chandler Massey and/or Freddie Smith to return). Though I guess there are still theoretically two upcoming departures that we don’t know about yet?

    Isabel Durant is quite a shift as Claire, and it’s apparent she’s making an effort to be more like Olivia Rose Keegan’s portrayal, which may ease the transition a little bit but probably isn’t helping overall. This reminds me of when Brandon Beemer first started as Shawn, and he spent a couple of months basically imitating Jason Cook before he really started to play the role his own way. This is kind of similar in that ORK’s Claire, despite all of the stuff she did, still felt extremely young, and Durant will have to play this character as a grown woman. Durant’s Claire also feels totally lacking in mischief, very sincere, which I hope shifts.

    While there are some things I’m liking about the custody battle portion of this Allie’s baby story — like how the positions of people involved feel nuanced and more realistic than the usual straightforward representation of two starkly opposed factions that you can get in these kind of family feuds — there are still a few that bug me. For one thing, not to be a broken record, I cannot get behind the “Nicole is an excellent mother” discourse as a reason for her to raise this baby, and I also don’t see Allie’s hastily sprawled treatise on how great Nicole is as much of a viable endorsement. It’s very clear she values Nicole so much because Nicole enabled her to evade her mother. Given the history between Sami and Nicole, I find it unlikely that so many people think Sami should just be cool with Nicole getting that baby. They also should have just introduced another lawyer for Nicole and Eric rather than having them go to Justin, Sonny’s father. I know Sonny went from being a whiny, crying man-baby about the adoption kerfuffle in about five seconds, but Nicole actively ruined the adoption by ratting out Sami for having spoken to Rafe. Justin shouldn’t be helping her, and she shouldn’t have asked.

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    Nu Claire seems pretty blah so far. We’ll see if she grows into the role.

    The latest rumor is that Tripp is Allie’s baby daddy. They aren’t related but I can’t help but think of them as cousins.

    I fast forward through the Ben/Ciara scenes. They bore me to tears.

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    Who thought it was a good idea for Eduardo to be back? The character is all-around terrible — not likable, no real impact, and quite unbelievable as an assassin. I haven’t seen how long this is meant to last, but Dorian Cramer Lord, I hope it is extremely short term.

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    Kassie DePaiva and True O’Brien were amazing today. Definitely Emmy worthy. Not sure if True would qualify for the Guest category.

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    I agree about Kassie and True; I would add Alison Sweeney as well.

    I have such mixed feelings about the show right now – upset about Will and Sonny leaving and generally not really enjoying the storylines but am enjoying the acting performances.

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