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    I think DAYS is the hardest to pick leads because of the revolving door this year in particular. Even though neither is on screen right now, I think Camila Banus and Kristian Alfonso have been leads this year. The other woman who I’d say was most clearly a lead is Victoria Konefal (also not on screen currently), but she’s still eligible for the less competitive younger performer category. Who are our options past that? Arianne Zucker, Linsey Godfrey, Mary Beth Evans, Deidre Hall, Sal Stowers, potentially Alison Sweeney depending on when she reappears. Am I forgetting anyone? From the choices, I’d add Deidre Hall and Linsey Godfrey to Banus and Alfonso, but of course I could see arguments for Ari Zucker or MBE as well.

    For the men, the two main leads have been Robert Scott Wilson and Stephen Nichols. Beyond that is feels murky. Eric Martsolf seemed kind of like a lead for the year, until Brady left with Kristen and it impacted nothing. Greg Vaughan seemed kind of like he had a lot of story, but he literally left the show because he felt like a glorified extra. Galen Gering had kind of a lot of screen time before he left, but if the show thought he was important, they wouldn’t have made Rafe lose custody of David for no reason and then written him out. Brandon Barash’s Jake has so far no had nearly the impact on overall story that Stefan had. That leaves me considering Drake Hogestyn, Chandler Massey, Paul Telfer, Lamon Archey and Billy Flynn as people who had a fairly consistent story presence for a fairly sustained period of time and mattered in the stories they were in. Of those, I think I’d go with Drake Hogestyn and Paul Telfer, with Lamon Archey close behind.

    What are your thoughts, Freeman?

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    What a strange introduction for Cady McClain as Jennifer. Yesterday’s episode had a few weird things about it, I am assuming because of transition into storylines and scenes filmed during the pandemic rather than before. The flow felt strange, with Orpheus and Clyde showing up kind of out of nowhere, causing a town-wide blackout, busting out of prison, and starting to menace people all in one episode. John shows up halfway through, and then Jack and Jennifer, now in the form of Cady McClain, show up at the very end. It felt particularly weird for McClain to be introduced in a scene where, if you didn’t already know, you wouldn’t be able to tell who she was. I don’t think Jack even said her name. I also didn’t expect to be seeing Victoria Konefal again so soon.

    Orpheus and Clyde causing trouble during a blackout is pretty repetitive of a story they did a few years ago, but okay I guess. At least Jan Spears is here to spice things up. It’s astounding no higher authority has come in to take over the local incarceration systems in and around Salem, considering how often people escape from Statesville and the mental treatment facility where criminals are sometimes remanded (Shady Brook? I keep thinking Shady Pines, but I know that was a nursing home on The Golden Girls).

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    Anyone have an air date for Alison Sweeney’s return as Sami? My understanding is that it will be sooner rather than later? So looking forward to her return!!!!

    I miss Will Horton/Chandler Massey so so so so much!

    Is Lucas Adams still under 25 and eligible for the Younger Performer Emmy? Is it definite that they will combine Younger Actor/Actress again this year?

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    I love how Shawn, a man who was trained as a CSI tech and then just became a detective one day through magic, is acting police commissioner.

    I’m not sure when Alison Sweeney will be airing again, but the sooner the better! I did see that she and Kristian Alfonso appear to be shooting a Hallmark mystery together, so maybe after that’s done?

    It appears that Lucas Adams is 27, and too old to participate in the younger acting category/ies. I haven’t heard anything about whether or not the younger categories will continue to be combined, but my guess is that they will. Even though it seemed like a faceplant to have only young ladies nominated last year, I would guess that NATAS isn’t going to admit defeat that quickly. I’m not thinking of a lot of male options for 2020 either.

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    I saw the preview for this week’s episodes, and it’s so frustrating watching these stories that are, in many cases, both repetitive and nonsensical. The show really needs to focus on developing stories that build and move using the cast that they have on the show on a regular basis. I’m tired of Clyde, Orpheus and Rolfe dropping in every few months to do basically the same thing they did the last time they were on and repeat the cycle over and over. It’s great being able to weave characters in and out of story, so that people who aren’t available full time can still show up from time to time. But the storylines can’t constantly hinge on those people doing something than then needs to be thwarted. The show also needs to consolidate storylines. Part of the problem with having like eight to 10 stories that each involve four or so characters is that it’s hard for any story to really feel like it has momentum. This is probably part of why B&B does as well as it does. It generally only runs a couple of stories at a time, so audiences don’t feel like just when they get invested in those, the show shifts to a different segment and then these stories are off for a week or so. Honestly I could get on board with following the development of stories even if they annoy me, but it’s very hard to do that when those stories are on for a couple of days and then off for a week.

    Even in just Friday’s show, the number of things that felt like they didn’t make sense was fairly high:
    I love Jan Spears and what she’s bringing to the show, but why haven’t Belle and Shawn done anything to keep her from just walking into their house all the time? (I guess Hope’s house is their house now.)

    How could Sarah possibly not see what a smarmy jerk Phillip is being? It feels like a feat of restraint that Xander hasn’t snapped his neck yet.

    Why does the Salem PD not have a better protocol for trying to find escaped/dangerous criminals? The cops always go to someone’s door to ask if a criminal is there, and the person, without letting them in, acts surprised that the criminal is in town and knows nothing about anything. Inevitably, the criminal was in the house/apartment and forcing the person to lie. This happens ALL THE TIME, so why isn’t there something better in place? Insist on coming inside and looking around, surveilling the location for maybe five minutes to see if the criminal comes or goes, something.

    And why oh why did Charlie call Claire down to Titan to rescue him from the office if he then had no intention of leaving said office? Like, he didn’t even walk out of the room. That’s aside from the fact that he was somehow locked down inside the CEO office but Claire was able to get into the building and through every other door to get there with no problem.

    Maybe I’ll enjoy the episodes more this week when I’m actually seeing them, but I’m not optimistic!

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    I am hoping that Days bounces back from this dull period right now. This show has a history of turning on a dime. But I miss Will and Sonny so so so so much. I am looking forward to Sami’s return – anybody know when that will be???

    I am watching but not with any enthusiasm ):

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    The Younger acting category will only have two options: either combined or no longer exist anymore. Get it out of your head that they would separate it again. Like really, let it go out of your mind. Having said that, the Younger categories were dumb to begin with. There is no need for someone under 25 to not be able to compete in the lead or supporting categories. There’s absolutely no difference in acting, which is why you don’t see that at any other awards show.

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    ^^I think the difference with soaps vs. primetime or movie acting is that because these shows are long-running institutions, there’s a very heavy perception that these acting awards aren’t just about acting but also about dues-paying and time served. I’ve heard several actors over the past few years, people with an abundance of screen time, talking about not competing in lead essentially because they didn’t feel they were veteran enough, either in the industry or on their show. That kind of thinking makes it hard for a 20-year-old who does a two-year stint to get recognized, no matter how good they are.

    It also seems like, at the point where the Daytime Emmys introduced these younger categories, they wanted to capitalize on some of the younger cast members who had been on soaps and were going on to have huge careers in primetime and film. Again, because of the way that respect and accolades are given within the industry, Emmys were mostly recognizing actors who were deeply steeped within the soap world, and I think the organizers wanted to start giving awards to these stars-to-be so they could point at them and say, “Look, we had them first!” I still think this was a big factor in why Rome Flynn, who at that point had been cast in a couple of primetime shows, beat Casey Moss for the younger actor Emmy a couple of years ago.

    Speaking of younger actors, the role that netted the last younger actor Daytime Emmy, Theo Carver, has been recast. https://daytimeconfidential.com/2020/10/23/cameron-johnson-joins-days-of-our-lives-as-recast-theo-carver

    I’m also seeing that Vanessa Williams will be back on as Valerie. Maybe Lani will be giving birth to those twins soon?

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    Heather Lindell has been the only saving grace on the show lately. I look forward to every scene she’s in and actually fast forward to just her scenes. It’s crazy to me how many ups and downs Days goes through every year. They have a few great months then plummet then go back up again. They’re in their down phase right now.

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    Yeah, it’s bizarre how quickly and often it swings. Most of what’s been happening the last two weeks is eye-rollingly stupid. I’m not sure on what level it’s being decided that these are the kinds of stories they should be focusing on. There are some great lines and the writing team is obviously capable of crafting clever situations to get where they’re trying to go, but the overall plot points don’t make sense on almost any level. Why is the preferred method of giving these vets stories to involve them in these outlandish abduction/danger storylines with over-the-top loony tunes villains whose characters can’t even sustain a few weeks of screen time? (Or in the case of Gina and Stevano, they had plenty of screen time but shouldn’t have.)

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    Am I correct in thinking what we are watching now was filmed after the long break in filming???

    Is Camila Banus 100% gone or is it part of that 6 months a year thing I read about and she will return? (I think I read that only Kristian and Greg were gone permanently???)…

    Please bring back Chandler Massey as Will Horton!!!!!!

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    Yes, Freeman, everything airing now was filmed after the COVID break.

    It’s my understanding that Camila Banus will be back relatively soon. I believe she said she wanted a break from the show and to be available for pilot season, but COVID torpedoed pilot season, and she ended up getting the break she needed because filming was suspended for five and a half months. I would guess that when they wrote the episodes that are airing now, they already knew Gabi would be returning soon, which is why Jake has been doing mostly nothing for a couple of weeks now (other than riling up the Twitterverse by being attracted to Kate).

    Ken Corday did say that the only people who are actually gone from the show are Kristian and Greg, both of whom decided to leave, and everyone else’s departure is classified as a ‘rumor’ in his book. To my mind, that just means that Kristian and Greg are the only people the show can’t get back on screen anytime soon, and everyone else, from Galen Gering to Victoria Konefal is in play either because they said they’d be willing to recur to some degree or because the departures weren’t their choice and the show thinks they can just bring them back when they want to.

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    ^Thanks Michael for the clarifications!

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    You’re welcome!

    Not that I was particularly eager to see it, but I’m a little shocked the show skipped Ciara’s memorial altogether the way they did. I mean, nothing tells you a character isn’t really dead like not even bothering to air their memorial service. This feels like a good representation of the messy situation DAYS has gotten itself into with Ciara. A character death, even a fake one, is usually at very least a good chance for some people to put on emotional performances, but it’s like the show is so not committed to this story path that they didn’t even try. How on board can they expect the audience to be? It feels more and more like a blunder to have gone down this road with Ciara.

    What do people think of Cady McClain as Jennifer? I found her performances slightly jarring on Friday’s episode, mostly I guess because I’m so used to Melissa Reeves and the softer, lower key energy she brings in the role (Mary Beth Evans is this way too), where McClain was hitting the emotions harder, playing things sharper. Actually watching it made me want to role-swap McClain with Cynthia Watros as Nina on GH. I bet McClain’s Nina would feel much more similar to Michelle Stafford’s than Watros’s does, and the kind of energy Watros has as Nina feels more like Jennifer. Anyway, I’m sure I’ll get used to McClain’s version of the character, or she’ll get closer to what Reeves was doing, or both.

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    My guess is that Tripp has an identical twin!!!! Lucas Adams has been delivering stellar performanes in a storyline I am not enjoying.

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