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    I really appreciated Ciara’s response to Shawn telling her that Marlena is possessed by the devil again. She’s one of the few people who seemed freaked out and terrified by this news. Most people’s reactions have been on par with learning that Marlena has the flu, which has been funny.

    It’s been nice getting more EJ/Susan scenes. The two characters never had much of an on-screen relationship, which made sense with Susan not really being on screen much when James Scott was in the role and with Stefano being the primary parental figure for EJ when he was in Salem. Not only is it nice to see that the character has someone who can be sort of a moral center for him, but also it’s good to see that someone who’s been mostly selfish and scheming in his actions has a pure connection with someone. This is something that Kristen could have used ever since Stacy Haiduk started her run. The closest she gets is with Lani, but even that friendship feels very bound up in both of them wanting revenge for things and Kristen influencing Lani to let her do bad things rather than the other way around.

    The conversation between Allie and Sami was really good as well. I do wish, though, that Allie, seeing Nicole’s behavior, would stop thinking of her as being so much on a pedestal. Of course, Nicole is her friend and has done a lot for her, but it would just be nice for her to acknowledge that Nicole is as much of a troublemaker as Sami. But her position on EJ is completely understandable.

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    Glad that Kate finally believed Chloe. It would be unbelievably cruel of her not to let Victor know that Philip is alive.

    I really can’t say I enjoyed yesterday’s episode. I really wish this possession storyline would end already.

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    I’m always happy to see Jan Spears back! Tripp getting caught up in the whole thing and being turned into Jan by MarDevil to take her place at the hospital was an interesting wrinkle. I had to laugh at how MarDevil transformed Tripp into Jan, including turning whatever he was wearing into her hospital gown, but missed the gender-neutral bracelet from Allie he was wearing. Also, the show definitely did not remember that they’re a year ahead of us when Jan came out of this current coma and complained that she’d missed the summer Olympics, which she would have been awake for when she was in Bayview (or wherever she was) last summer before Sami got her out.

    Yeah, I was glad the scenes with Kate, Philip, and Chloe went the way they did. I was a little concerned that Kate was going to get roped into lying for everyone on Philip’s behalf and just supporting his ongoing charade of having been murdered by Brady. It seems like she’s concocting a scheme to set things right, but I guess we’ll see what she actually does. Lauren Koslow’s been great the last few episodes. I really liked her arc from being vengeful and devastated to being shocked by what Philip has done to trying to make him see that what he did crossed the line.

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    Lucas being the kidnapper encapsulates why I do not like Ron Carlivati’s writing on this show.

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    RC just writes the most random things for characters. We saw EJ send the text from Sami’s phone. Are we supposed to just forget that?

    He destroyed Philip for the sake of Chloe and Brady. No one asked for that coupling.

    A far more interesting storyline would’ve been Philip vying with Steve and Kayla for the affections of his grown son Pocket. And Pocket and Brady’s son Tate fighting for the affections of a male school mate in high school.

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    Lucas being the kidnapper. What a stupid way of ruining a character and a great couple. HATE this. Absolutely hate this.

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    I was shocked by Lucas being the kidnapper, but I’m in the minority I guess in that I don’t hate it. It’s surprising, but it doesn’t feel so out of character that I can’t believe it, especially now when we’re delving back into the Lumi era from the early 2000s. It’s very easy for me to see Lucas being beyond frustrated at Sami’s determination to make things work with EJ, who has been so awful to her, and impetuously thinking that if he can just get her away from a little while and give her time to cool down and think things through, she’ll change her mind. But I get why people are upset by it. It definitely ruins Sami and Lucas as a couple in the short term. It’s bad, though honestly not worse than when he let her come within seconds of being executed for killing Franco, which he actually did.

    It also really surprised me that Johnny and Chanel came back from Italy married.

    It would be cool to bring back Pocket/Tyler (Steve and Kayla should have gone to jail for naming that boy Pocket), and definitely could have provided some better story possibilities for Philip than this triangle with Chloe and Brady. I couldn’t believe they had Philip mention him the other day. I thought they would never talk about him again.

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    Jan gets Shawn into bed and of course, it’s via rape. RC strikes again!

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    ^Again, this is why I do not agree that Ron Carlivati is such a great headwriter. I think he’s terrible. The writing that is good is on individual scenes and not the overall storyline arcs – with rare exceptions.

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    As cheesy as it’s been, I guess I mostly enjoyed the possession storyline.

    I read SOD’s 2022 previews and I have to say there are very few things making me excited/hopeful about DOOL for the new year. The end of the possession storyline will create a big storyline void. Apparently Nancy is coming back; I love Patrika Darbo so this is cool. Kayla and Steve are going on some adventure; hopefully it’s fun and romantic.

    I guess we can safely assume that Jan will be pregnant with Shawn’s baby, right? I guess I’m kind of excited about this possibility, mainly because I enjoy having Shawn and Belle around and I think it’s great for them to have a front-burner storyline.

    I can’t wait for Gwen to get her comeuppance for Sarah’s disappearance. I despise the character and do not understand why they are keeping her around. Please undo her paternity and get her off my screen!

    I still can’t believe they made Lucas Sami’s kidnapper. Hate this development.

    Rafe/Nicole/Ava bores me. Mainly because I don’t like Ava. Another character that I don’t understand why Ron is obsessed with.

    The young adult crowd is likeable.

    More Victor, more Maggie, more Doug/Julie, more Kate/Roman!

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    It is alarming how often and how casually RC will throw a rape or rape-adjacent storyline development on screen, and that no one seems in the chain of approval seems concerned about it! I haven’t seen Friday’s episode yet, and I was hoping that maybe things didn’t get too far with Shawn and Jan before Belle arrived, but I’ve seen quite a bit of speculation that Jan will be pregnant. I would enjoy having a pregnant Jan around for Belle and Shawn to deal with, and I wonder if they’d then be unable to resist the temptation of a baby switch with Ben and Ciara’s baby.

    That said, I mostly found Thursday’s episode absolutely hilarious. MarDevil was on a roll. Martha Madison was doing a fantastic job as Jan. MarDevil crashing the Horton Christmas and setting the angel on fire was a hoot, and I say this as someone who loves the Horton tree trimming every year. I enjoyed the Sami/EJ stuff, though of course Lucas was going to tell his friend to blame the kidnapping on EJ. It gives the story somewhere to go, which I guess is good, though the lack of any security procedures around criminals at the Salem PD continues to be staggering.

    I also don’t care about Ava, though I think she has potential to work as a villain. Throwing into a story with Rafe, who is a waste of space, and making her an obstacle for Rafe and Nicole, a pairing no one wants, only hurts her. I wouldn’t care if she were gone, but I’d certainly get rid of Jake first, then Gwen. Gwen had a lot of potential when she was Jake’s ex and Claire’s friend, and she could have been a fun schemer and golddigger type of character, but then they threw her into the whole business with Abigail and have since thrown a lot of good money after bad to give her storylines.

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    I must have missed an episode: how did Tripp get out of the hospital room?

    Boy they are throwing Lucas under the bus at the altar of E.J. ): Blech!): It’s not o.k. with me at all!

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    Steve and Allie found Tripp in Jan’s room.

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    Yeah, by the time Steve and Allie realized what might have happened, Tripp had turned back into himself and pretty quickly came out of the coma MarDevil had put him in.

    Did Shawn say what he was arresting Jan for? Was it sexual assault? That would be progress.

    I had to laugh at Nicole coming to see EJ and speculate about who (if not him) might have had Sami kidnapped, blissfully unaware that he was ready to kick her to the curb and get back together with Sami.

    Some people online last week were unhappy that the Horton ornament hanging included Melissa Reeves’ Jennifer but not Eli and Lani, with some speculation that perhaps Lamon Archey didn’t want to share scenes with Missy. I don’t know if that’s true, but it feels like a reach to me. The Melissa Reeves stuff aside, it was nice to see Jennifer — truly unbelievable that this woman has been dealing with sorting out Laura’s estate since like February and is still not done, absurd! — and I like that she brought down Laura’s angel just in time to replace the one MarDevil burned up. I also thought the scenes with Eli and Julie in yesterday’s episode where they have a private moment and hang Jules and Carver’s ornaments together were really nice.

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    Is it really over? Can this really be the end? Or is this a fakeout? Glory hallelujah if it really is finally over!!!! (; (I know some of you really loved it, sorry, I am just so happy if the show will be able to move on to other stories now).

    Is Eric back for good or was this it? Just a two day return?

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