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    Great summary of 2017, Freeman!

    New Year’s Eve in Salem was quite exciting!

    Ciara is such an explosive character. I do not care much for Claire, but I enjoy her more now that she and Ciara are at odds. I think a Ciara/Tripp pairing is inevitable. The dynamic created by Ciara’s presence is reminiscent of Sami. How long before she spills to Hope about Rafe’s indiscretion?

    There is also the brewing secret between Eli and Lani. Honestly, I see Eli as a better fit for Lani. JJ works better with Gabi.

    Brady and Eve are hot! And the story is pretty interesting as well. I don’t think Brady will get the best of her.

    Will and Paul at midnight! And then he goes home and doesn’t even share a glass of champagne. I feel so sorry for Sonny. His relationship with Will appears to be doomed. Will Greg Rikaart play a character who turns this triangle into a quadrangle?

    Tyler Christopher as Stefan DiMera seems like the perfect addition to the cast. I am looking forward to seeing how he mixes it up with the rest of the cast.

    I thought that Arianne Zucker was making a brief appearance around the holidays, but that did not materialize. Or did I miss something? (Freeman, I wrote this before I read your post).

    NativeNYer, I do not have the history with Days required to respond to your post. But I found it interesting. Thanks for sharing!

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    Great last few posts!

    NativeNYer, I also felt like Vivian’s return wasn’t quite what I wanted. I enjoyed it, but it felt a little lacking. As you pointed out, Vivian went from being this really dangerous villainess in her first to being comic relief and a reluctant DiMera accomplice. Despite her mending fences and becoming friends with many of the characters, I did always still see her as an antagonistic character, so I was glad when her returns were in that spirit. The character could have been written as smarter in her 2009 return, but the show had changed so much at that time. You’re not in a good place when you get outdone by Boozy Brady.

    For the most part, I do think everyone’s reactions to Vivian made sense, but I wish they’d spent a little more time on exposition. I watched most of the Vivian’s first run (missing some of the early stuff when in school and then much of her last year or so while in college) and all of her second run, and I still have a hard time remembering how she connects to people outside of the major relationships. The strongest standouts for me from her most recent stint were that she had somehow strong-armed Victor into marrying her, attempted to murder Melanie for revenge on Carly (which eventually led to Carly accidentally shooting Melanie), and attempted to bury Maggie alive in a sarcophagus that Brady ultimately got Maggie out of and put Vivian into. This list of crimes is enough to make Hope, Jennifer and any other Horton react to her with hostility. Of course she and Kate hate each other, but I would assume she must have had dealings with Andre. Wasn’t it retconned that Andre replaced Tony back in the mid-80s, and everything that Tony supposedly did between then and when the character was rescued from that island during one of Anna’s returns was actually Andre? I thought that was why Vivian had that stilted pause before saying his name. Chad would have been none too pleased about the Melanie business as well, and Chloe had been blackmailed into working as a prostitute under the pimpmanship of Vivian’s surprise son Quinn, so I guess there’s still some issue there. Chloe was involved with Daniel around the time that Vivian tried to kill his daughter Melanie on her wedding day to Philip, so there’s that. On her last stint, Vivian really took a few broad swipes a made a lot of people mad. But it would have helped if the show had done what they usually do when a villain returns and had the good folks in town angrily recite the villain’s pertinent list of crimes along with their “What are you doing here?” and “I thought you were in Bollywood?” type comments.

    All that said, Vivian’s return was fun and felt like pretty classic Vivian. Tyler Christopher is off to a promising start as Stefan Octavius DiMera.

    Overall, I liked the New Year’s stuff a lot. I agree, Brady and Eve are hot together. Brady isn’t smart enough to be subtle enough to fool Eve, and it really seems like he just going to fall for her. I loved the scenes of Brady and Sonny bickering as well.

    I feel a little bad for Sonny in this story with Will, but also not that bad, as Sonny’s been pretty rough to Paul and frankly, I think, was pretty selfish and emotionally irresponsible in getting Will to move into the Kiriakis mansion. I feel so bad for Paul, but hopefully it makes him feel a little better than Will really cannot keep his hands or lips to himself when they’re together. I had been thinking that Greg Rikaart could play a love interest for one of these guys, and maybe he can, though they all seem to have two options right now.

    I hadn’t heard about Nicole possibly popping back in for the holidays, but it would have been nice to see how she’s doing.

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    I felt that Will was making a very mature decision today (sigh) but I am team Sonny and Will all the way – yet I like the chemistry between Will and Paul too. (not so much of a Sonny and Paul fan though). Chandler and Freddie played their scenes beautifully today.

    Thanks for all that info on Vivian. I didn’t watch the show all that much in those years. I thought Vivian had buried Carly and not Maggie? I have a very strong memory of it… I was totally confused by the reactions to Vivian since I had no idea what the relationships were for her and the other characters. I look forward to Vivian in scenes with Victor! (:

    I am enjoying Brady and Eve’s scenes.

    I agree that Victoria Konefal has been a terrific recast as Ciara and has me won over immediately, which is rare for younger actor/actress recasts.

    A question: will Days be pre-empted during the winter Olympics? Is it going to be 2 or 3 weeks? Fortunately I enjoy most of the winter sports but I will certainly miss Days if it is interrupted during it.

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    Thanks for all that info on Vivian. I didn’t watch the show all that much in those years. I thought Vivian had buried Carly and not Maggie? I have a very strong memory of it…

    Vivian initially buried carly alive back in 1993, but when she returned in 2009/2010? She buried Maggie alive in the sarcophagus, and then had the tables turned on herself by Brady, being locked in the sarcophagus herself.

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    ^Thank you. I remember vividly Carly being buried. So will we get scenes between Vivian and Maggie?? how about: a return of Carly Manning with the wonderful Crystal Chappell returning to the role?

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    Yes, right-o, Vivian kind of catapulted to being a marquee villainess when she buried Carly alive back in 1993. She was dangerous, ruthless and a little unhinged. When they paid homage with her doing the same to Maggie, it certainly didn’t have that same oomph for the character, but it made her even more of a pariah in Salem. As great as Crystal Chappell is, I have very little interest in seeing Carly back on the show at this point. I don’t get the impression that Vivian will be around for all that long, but I could be wrong. And I just remembered that Lisa Rinna will be back soon as Billie, which should be fun. One of my favorite Vivian lines was a quip to Billie that went something like, “Nice dress, Billie. Where’s the rest of it?” I think that was the Krista Allen era.

    Great scenes yesterday with Will and Sonny. Both were great, and I really did feel for Sonny but I also think Will is totally right.

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    While ABC and CBS have deals with other stations so that their soaps can be seen when there is news on the regular affiliates (there was a huge snow storm today), NBC does not have one locally, so I missed Days today ): What happened???

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    Here’s the rundown, Freeman:

    A hungover Ciara argues with Claire and later confides in Tripp. (I am liking Victoria Konefal more every day. She killed it today. Kudos!)

    Rafe begins to put the pieces together regarding Ciara’s knowledge of his secret. Rafe and Hope are visited by a haughty Kate, who demands that they do something about Stefan and Vivian. Kate leaves in a huff when they say there is nothing they can do.

    A haughty Kate confronts Kayla at the hospital and demands that she expedite Stefan’s DNA test. She reminds Kayla that the DiMeras are important donors and that accuracy is critical.

    Chad and Abigail confront Stefan, who informs them that he will be moving into the mansion and that his bank owns Chad’s loan. (Tyler Christopher was fantastic. He is perfect for this part.)

    Kayla informs Theo that in order for him to fully recover, she arranged for him to participate in a clinical trial overseas. So it looks like Kyler Pettis will be leaving after all.

    At the end of the show, Rafe visits Ciara. Kate bursts into the DiMera mansion with the results of Stefan’s DNA test.

    Yesterday’s and today’s episodes gives me great faith that Days will continue its hot streak in 2018.

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    ^thank you for the info! “Haughty Kate”, I like that description! (; So she bursts in at the end of the episode? Does she know the results? I will tune in tomorrow!

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    Tyler Christopher is a hit! After Friday’s episode, I maintain that he will be an outstanding addition to Days of our Lives.

    Andre working with Vivian is quite the twist, given that the writers have gone to great lengths to redeem him. I am ok either way. I was beginning to like Andre, but I am ok with this turn of events.

    I usually do not notice sets or costumes as I am usually more absorbed in story and character. But I have noticed that Abigail has been wearing some really ugly clothes. A week or so ago, there was one bright colored dress that was especially jarring.

    There are a lot of characters at loose ends right now. It will be interesting to see what new stories evolve in 2018.

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    Would anyone be interested in finding out what happened in Kate’s past that she changed her name from Kate Winograd to Kate Roberts, and why she changed her career from doctor to businesswoman? Also, if she was a doctor, why did she have to moonlight as a prostitute?

    Also, would anyone be interested in meeting Marlena’s parents? Does anyone know if we have ever met them before? Introducing Marlena’s parents would be something interesting for the writers to consider. B&B introduced Stephanie’s parents at a late date, and they could do the same with Marlena.

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    I usually do not notice sets or costumes as I am usually more absorbed in story and character. But I have noticed that Abigail has been wearing some really ugly clothes. A week or so ago, there was one bright colored dress that was especially jarring.

    I was thinking the same thing, but thought i was the only one….i HATE all the clothing that abigail wears, it looks like something her grandmother should be wearing, or something that was sewn together from some old curtains….do the actors get a choice in the attire that they act in, if so marci miller get a grip!!! LOL

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    I have been feeling somewhat bored with Days and I am trying to figure out why. Part of it is that they are spending so little time with most of my favorites: Sonny/Will/Paul, Marlena, Adrienne, Lucas, Maggie, Victor, who have I forgotten? But also as much as I am enjoying Tyler Christopher something feels off to me. I haven’t been able to put my finger on it. The show is still very good, of course, but… I have also been loving Y&R the past few weeks, mostly due to Dina and Sharon’s stories.

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    I’ve been falling behind a little on DAYS, largely because we’ve had two days where the episode did not air on NBC because they needed to talk about the weather for an hour (one of these was somewhat understandable, when the entire eastern seaboard was being bombarded with blizzard conditions last Thursday; the other was to discuss the barely-there freezing rain on Monday, and honestly I think someone should be demoted over the decision). I’m mostly caught up now except for yesterday, though social media has made it pretty clear what the big development there was.

    In any event, interesting observations and questions!

    Regarding Abigail’s wardrobe, yeah, this is a rode they started going down last spring, when the show was very pointedly pitting Gabi and Abigail against one another for Chad’s affections. Abigail’s wardrobe became almost comically dowdy at times, very conservative, while Gabi’s wardrobe was filled with skin-tight dresses and separates that all seemed to accentuate her bust and expose some portion of her midriff. Gabi’s probably stood out less because it’s closer to what you’d expect a character her age to wear on a soap, and they’ve toned it down recently. I think with Abigail, they actually have been trying to jazz it up somewhat and it just made it even more noticeable. Usually, I will initially dislike what she’s wearing very much, but after an episode or two I’ve grown to appreciate something about it. It is kind of surprising, though, that much of Abigail’s wardrobe is so iffy, when the show has, for a long time now, basically used a similar conceptual aesthetic for Jennifer and generally to much better effect.

    I don’t know anything about Kate having been Kate Winograd or having been a doctor. Did this happen on screen at some point? I’m curious. I could see Kate having changed her name to avoid being tracked down by her abusive ex Curtis. Though I know nothing about the doctor thing, I could imagine she might have been in the process of becoming a doctor or getting training for it (good heavens, could you imagine Kate as a doctor???) when one of the men for whom she was an escort opened her eyes to how successful she could be as a businesswoman and told her she had a knack for it. Maybe she went into business to pay off debts she’s accumulated and someone told her she could do better by getting into business? Totally guessing here, obviously. I’d like to congratulate Kate on being one of the very few women on DAYS in 2017 who wasn’t jailed/imprisoned, hospitalized, institutionalized, kidnapped or other confined against her will. It is a startlingly short list.

    Maybe 10 or so years ago, when Eric was still off-screen and was often mentioned as being with Marlena’s parents in Colorado, I did think it would be interesting to bring in Marlena’s parents and more of her extended family, and to bring Eric back. As far as I’m aware, we’ve never seen them. But I’m much less interested now. For one thing, I don’t think the show needs to be creating new older characters without a good storytelling reason, and I can’t think of one. Also, considering how many things they’ve missed, it would be really weird to have them show up now, kind of like when Adriana Hernandez showed up after repeatedly being too sick to come to any important thing happening with Rafe, Gabi, Dario, or Ariana over the previous decade. It feels easier and more believable to leave them out of the picture. Drumming up a story with someone’s elderly parents out of the blue definitely feels more like a B&B/Y&R thing to do, and I don’t think would really work for DAYS.

    I’m still enjoying the show very, very much and haven’t been bored at all, but given the lowered intensity since the stories with Theo’s shooting and finding Will have settled, and the shift in focus to characters who were taking more of a back seat during that time, it doesn’t surprise me that some people might feel a little bored, or at least a bit underwhelmed in comparison. I’m loving Tyler Christopher as Stefan, and I’m enjoying watching that story play out. I didn’t want Andre to be working with Vivian and Stefan, but it’s an interesting turn and is more believable that Andre just now being happy to let Chad run things and just stay in line. It works from a character perspective without, at least in my opinion, necessarily undermining the progress Andre has made in being a better and more likable character. There are a few characters that I could watch every day who are currently getting a little less focus (Will, Marlena, Paul, JJ), but I really like getting to know the new Ciara more and seeing her interactions with Tripp (who I’m liking more and more), Hope, Rafe, and Claire, and I like that Kate is front and center.

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    ^I suppose she’s not old enough but Robin Strasser as Marlena’s mother would send me into the stratosphere! (:

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