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  • EmmyLoser
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    When Chad and Abigail left, I thought it was for the best. Their story had gone off the rails in a few ways, though once Kate Mansi stepped back into the role it felt like a new ballgame with Abigail, writing-wise, and there seemed to be a lot more potential. The characterization of Chad was falling apart at the seams. But now, after a couple of months of what have felt like aimless, nonsensical or going-nowhere stories in some cases, I can’t wait for them to return. Absence really can make the heart grow fonder. Do we know if this is long-term or short-term?

    I also just read that Thaao Penghlis confirmed via Instagram that he and Leann Hunley will be back on in July. I’m happy to have Leann Hunley and Anna back on the show really any time. I don’t really understand the continued returns of Thaao Penghlis. I like him just fine, and I don’t mind having Tony around, but the show can’t stop killing him. At some point there should be a limit. Maybe Thaao will be playing a new character who also happens to look just like the other two. I’d be more interested in that, frankly, than resurrecting either of the other characters. And of course, it’s possible he’s just a ghost, dream, delusion or avatar, which, fine.

    It seems silly to me that the show doesn’t keep Belle and Shawn around, speaking of returns. Martha Madison and Brandon Beemer seem happy to be on the show whenever they’re asked, and the audience likes them. Instead, the show brings in characters and thrusts them upon the audience and the town. Rex and Sarah are a good example. I’ve actually come to love Sarah, but I can still take or leave Rex. I don’t get the point of writing a bunch of story around them while leaving fan-favorites off canvas for what seems like no reason.

    Anywho, I agree with a lot of robbalto’s post above.

    Regarding Eric/Sarah/Rex, though, I had just gotten around to the point of enjoying the story more, or at least enjoying Eric and Sarah as a potential couple, and then they threw Nicole back into the mix, which threw everything off again. I think I’m on record as not really being a fan of Nicole and Eric, and in many cases not being that jazzed on Nicole as a character. She a good person to have on canvas, but I often don’t root for her.

    I’m sad that both Valerie and Sheila are now off, though it was cute they gave Sheila a little farewell montage. I’m still pretty annoyed they didn’t give us one scene between Hope and Sheila, which could have been a lot of fun.

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    syrus80
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    The problem with the Claire/Haley/Tripp story is that it is just so contrived. As crazy as Claire is, she isn’t wrong for feeling the way she does. Tripp would’ve been pissed if the shoe was on the other foot and Claire married some guy to help him stay in the country. And where is Haley’s mother? Not to mention that she could’ve married JJ.

    Sheila and Valerie should both be on the canvas. I hope they don’t bring on another love interest for Abe when both ladies are available.

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    EmmyLoser
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    This is all very true. It helps me a little that the only reason Haley resorted to green card marriage is because Claire ratted her out when she was hiding out at the loft thinking that would get rid of her, but yeah, Claire’s position isn’t unsympathetic.

    One of the problems I’m having is the way the writing, in at least a couple of stories, is swerving to make a character who was acting like a complete jackass appear to have been right all along. The first is Brady and his irrational claim that Chloe was in more danger at the DiMera mansion than she would have been at the Kiriakis mansion. Now that Holly has been kidnapped, characters are jumping to the conclusion that she and the kids were worse off than they would have been at the Kiriakis mansion, which honestly still doesn’t make sense, considering the number of people who are constantly in and out of there, including several actual criminals who’ve lived there in the last year and a half. On top of that, the plan Brady started to have Gabi seduce Stefan is now in full swing, so Brady will appear to be doubly right, when he in fact was wrong.

    The other case is with Rafe, Hope and Ted. Rafe has done one selfish and dismissive thing after another in his relationship with Hope, all the while claiming he was doing the right thing and she wasn’t being understanding, and then pivoting the conversation to make it seem like Hope was giving him the brush-off because she was under Ted’s thrall, which was not at all the case. Now, Ted is both scheming and using his relationship with Hope to help carry out those schemes, and Hope is just kind of letting it happen. Rafe keeps telling people Ted can’t be trusted, so when this is all exposed, characters like Eli and Lani will say that Rafe was right all along and Hope was a fool to have gotten involved with Ted. I hope they don’t act like Rafe hasn’t consistently thrown Hope for whatever rescue mission he wanted to go on over the last year, but I bet they will. Very frustrating, not only from a perspective of this just not making sense with what actually happened, but also because Hope is possibly the most important character on the show, and should not be thrown under the bus for the sake of making Rafe seem anywhere near good enough for her.

    Sorry, one more complaint while I’m here: It feels very silly for the show to have Nicole return from the dead and be thrown into an immediate crisis with Holly. I know returns from the dead are now extremely commonplace on this show, but still the drama of her coming back should have been allowed to breathe for a couple of weeks, deal with the more immediate implications for Eric and Sarah, work out things with Brady, have encounters with others she was associated with and catch up on the status quo. If they wanted to delay her reunion with Holly, and even build anticipation for it, Chloe could have been away on a trip, maybe taking the kids to visit her parents once they thought the threat with the cartel was over. This timeline would have actually worked better for both stories. Chloe is gone for a couple of weeks, during with Stefan and Gabi start sleeping together. (Gabi spending a lot of time at the DiMera mansion while Chloe was away would also have made more sense of Lani’s apparent need to stay at Rafe and Gabi’s place to help take care of David.) Then Chloe comes back, ready to date Stefan, not having yet seen Nicole, and we pick up where we are. Then all of Nicole’s yelling at people and blaming them would have been more tolerable, and I probably wouldn’t have been cheering when Victor was letting her have it.

    Speaking of Victor, I liked the conversation between him and Kate yesterday, particularly them talking about the fact that Titan was never more successful than when he and Kate were running it. While I totally understand that Maggie not only dislikes Kate but also is distrustful of and threatened by her, both she and Brady need to acknowledge that Kate is easily a better businessperson than literally anyone that’s been CEO of Titan in the last 10 or 15 years (Brady, who learned most of what he knows about business working under Kate at Basic Black years ago; Deimos, who I guess took the MBA courses at the prison he was in for 30 years; Sonny, who could not even manage to run a successful coffee shop on the edge of a crowded town square; Chad, another protege of Kate’s). I would also love someone to remind Brady that he was working for DiMera (along with Eve) more recently that Kate was, so maybe he shouldn’t be trusted.

    Anywho, I am curious to see where this kidnapping story goes, and particularly who is the one Xander is delivering Holly to. The obvious answer seems to be Kristen, but because that kind of makes no sense, I guess I’ll wait and see.

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    I’m confused as to what the endgame will be with Hope, Rafe and Ted. I actually like her with Ted cause she seems to work better with guys with an edge. But it just seems like another Aiden situation. She’ll find out about his misdeeds and end up single for awhile again.

    The Holly kidnapping plot isn’t working for me either. Nicole barely rose from the dead and already drama galore! But Ron seems to be even worse with his pacing because he did the exact same thing with Sarah’s arrival. As soon as she got back into town, drama galore, with Rex.

    Days seems like the best fit for Gina Tognoni. She actually would’ve been a great fit as Sarah with Linsey as Noelle Curtis. If she ends up on the show, I wonder who she’d play.

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    It’s hard for me to picture Gina Tognoni on DAYS, though I could see her playing something serious like a doctor or a new business person. It wouldn’t hurt for the show to bring in a character in a functional way and then give them some heavier story after a bit, rather than the way characters have been coming in.

    I agree about Hope and Ted. They work together for me, but that seems doomed. I’d be more than happy for Hope to just be single for a while, though (as long as she still have storyline), because she and Rafe have not been good since before they got married, and everyone has spent the last 14 months trying to convince Hope that she should be more forgiving/understanding of every dumb thing he’s done.

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    Days has really sucked ass lately. I have only been reading the episode summaries and then deciding if I want to watch. I’m really hoping they get their act together when Kate Mansi and Billy Flynn come back. If there’s a miracle, Eileen Davidson will come back too. That could be their saving grace this year since they tape so far ahead.

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    ^ it is my understanding that Stacey Haiduk is returning to the show soon.

    I haven’t been watching due to a project I am working on except for yesterday’s episode – I didn’t find it all that edifying. Very repetitive, esp. all of Claire’s scenes. Will’s memory loss is scaring me but it’s what I predicted. My feeling is that Jack will win the election because I don’t see how there is any “story” if Abe wins?

    Where’s Marlena?

    My project is winding down and I will be able to start watching again over the next few weeks. I hope the show improves, I have mostly been bored and the only saving grace is the wonderful cast of performers who do their best with the material. I am most looking forward to Robin Strasser’s return to daytime – anybody know when? Is it a guest stint or a regular role?

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    My feeling is the show will basically have to go into whole new story modes sometime soon because there will be so much changing with the cast, and I’m hoping things improve then. It’s been a bit up and down to me, though the up is not particularly great either. Marlena was on a few episodes over the past week or so, having a romantic six-month anniversary dinner with John (at which Marlena mentioned basically predicted that Kristen will be back soon, since Xander, Nicole and Jack all got out of the exploded warehouse just fine) and trying to help Sarah through the situation with Eric and Rex. Let me also say that having John and Marlena have a private dinner at the Brady Pub every few months isn’t really cutting it in terms of romance. It’s the same thing they’ve been doing for quite some time, and despite Deidre and Drake keeping things amusing, it’s fairly dull at this point.

    Thank goodness the election story will be over soon, but I am so so so so so so so done with it. Just when you think maybe something new and interesting will happen, it goes back to the Haley thing, which is so dumb because I can’t imagine further outing Haley is going to garner Jack and Eve any additional votes. Anyone who cared more about deporting a nurse than not voting for a rapist was already on his side anyway. Unfortunately, it does seem like Jack is going to win, which is just beyond annoying. If they were to win through something like hiring fraudulent voters or rigging the results, that would be more palatable for me, but the idea that the garbage they’ve been spewing is strongly resonating with voters just drives me nuts. Especially with everything that is happening politically in the real world, it’s just very unpleasant to watch.

    At least we finally got to see Will and Sonny for a little bit yesterday, but those two have been pretty marginalized lately.

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    The election story would have resonated better if there were an actual election going on right now. It’s definitely at a transitional point right now. I’m really hoping it picks up when Kate Mansi and Billy Flynn are back. They need to do something drastic to peak people’s attention like have JJ go gay or something.

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    I think Maggie starting to drink again was a curveball! And Nicole discovering it.

    I actually didn’t expect Haley to spill everything about her marriage being fake on Election Day. But then I was thinking about early voting becoming so popular and what a waste potentially! Like half the people may have voted already. The debate was too close to the election, the Haley press conference too close to the election. Early voting people!

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    Hahaha, yes. I’d like to think I’ve given up on the election story actually making sense, because then I could just watch and enjoy, but the silliness of a mayoral race in a small, Midwest town hinging not only on a candidate’s platform of being tough on immigration (absurd) but further on whether or not an undocumented nurse’s obviously fake marriage can be proven to be fake is just too much. Who in Salem was sitting at home thinking, “Well, I wasn’t going to vote, but now that this ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT has admitted her scheming to stay in this country, I better go cast my vote for Jack Deveraux!” Anybody who cared that much would already be voting for him! Not to mention that it’s like late afternoon and people have been voting all day. If anything, I’d think Haley’s speech would garner sympathy for her.

    Maggie struggling with her drinking is interesting to see, but I hope she doesn’t actually do it. I also hope someone tells Nicole a more thorough account of what was actually happening with Chloe and her life being in danger, most specifically, that the danger was CHLOE and not THE DIMERA MANSION. I don’t understand how this delusion continues to be fostered, and now Nicole is hailing Brady as the only person who fought for Holly. This is very obnoxious. The only person who proposed a solution that would have put Holly in less danger was Victor, when he suggested that Holly and Parker come to stay at the Kiriakis mansion without Chloe. Stefan saving Chloe’s life by killing one of the cartel guys may never even be mentioned again.

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    It’s very likely not meant to be, but I am 100% on board with Eric/Sarah as a pair. It just feels like Sarah loves him really deeply, the way he deserves to be loved and honestly in a way Nicole never will.

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    I missed Holly’s death – how did she die? What were the circumstances? did we see her body or is this that rumor about a “fake” Nicole? I haven’t been watching due to a commitment I have until May 22nd, and only have seen two episodes in the last 3 weeks…

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    Hey Freeman, let me try to recap the story succinctly and without complaining . . .

    After one of the cartel guys who was after Chloe was killed and the other was captured, the police told everyone the threat was over, and Chloe and Stefan had a dinner date at the DiMera Mansion. While that was happening, a mystery person slipped into the mansion, kidnapped Holly and left. As Ben and the DiMera security team and Hope and the police searched for Holly, Ted went to see the kidnapper, who turned out to be Xander. Ted had been keeping tabs on people for Xander. Xander compelled Ted to help him pin the kidnapping on the cartel — Xander had some information that Ted presented to the cartel boss they have in custody (Hector) that convinced him to go along with this — and they set up a meeting where Ted is supposed to get Holly back in exchange for Hector being extradited to Mexico. Ted insisted he had to go alone, which Hope didn’t like but was willing to go along with in order to get Holly back. Rafe, who still has one arm in a sling, was suspicious and followed Ted and made no effort to be covert about it. When they got to the rendezvous, the kidnapper called Ted and, knowing he was not alone, jumped into a car with Holly and took off. Rafe pursued them, followed by Ted. The kidnapper’s car went off the road into a ditch and then exploded, leaving two charred bodies, an adult male and a female child, for the police to find. This is all a ruse, of course. Afterwards, Xander assured Ted that Holly was fine and being taken to her new home with his partner/boss, whom he will not reveal, and the charred bodies from the explosion were taken from the morgue.

    So that’s where we are. Everyone except Xander and Ted think Holly is dead, and everyone feels terrible about it. Nicole came back as the kidnapping was happening and is now mad at everyone except Brady (who is getting credit for trying to make Chloe move out of the DiMera Mansion). Hope suspended Rafe for insubordination, and his response was to say their marriage was over and throw his ring into the smoldering crash site. Ben feels bad about letting his guard down and now wants to spend time with his nephew David, which Lani is not having. And Maggie, torn up over Holly’s death on top of her fighting with Victor over hiring Kate and his general lack of support in her hour of need, has now twice come very close to falling off the wagon.

    On another note, Ari Zucker was great in yesterday’s episode (even though Nicole is driving me nuts a little). There was the grief and anger she’s been doing for a few days now, but also when Nicole starts digging into what is going on between Sarah and Eric, she kind of feels like the villainess to Sarah’s suffering heroine, and it’s a dynamic that works.

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    There is no way in hell this is Nicole….this is someone else…and if so..that is a plot twist that I did NOT see coming and I think is perfect.

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