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  • FreemanGriffin
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    I am loving Robin Strasser’s Vivian but I am less invested in Louise Sorel’s Vivian – I watched her over the years but Days was never my favorite soap until all of the east coast soaps were cancelled. Robin’s Vivian has had me laughing out loud so much it has made me giddy! (;

    Today’s episode feels slow to me, not all that exciting. I wonder if there will be a cliff-hanger? I really think they blew it by not having Nicole reveal that Kristen was pretending to be her.

    Good though to finally see Holly! (: Looking forward to Maggie seeing Holly in particular.

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    Robin’s Vivian has been awful. It’s too bad Louise told me she’s done with Days because this isn’t Vivian at all.

    syrus80
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    The rumor is that Stefan’s heart will be given to Julie. If true, it’ll be another mistake on the part of the writers. Stefan and Gabi work so well together.

    Supposedly Faux Vivian will also bury Kate alive. Yawn! Been there and done that twice with Vivian!

    Djoko
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    Stefan is supposed to die? That would be horrible!?! He is one of the best characters on Days and works so well with Gabi and Chloe. I would love a love triangle between them. Just kill off Julie. Why do they even need her?? And here I thought Days was getting better from their atrocious first half of the year.

    soapsarecool
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    “Just kill off Julie”?!?!? Are you serious?! I agree with you that Stefan is a great character and should NOT be killed off. But suggesting that they kill Julie is awful. In general, I think killing off or disappearing veterans is cruel to actors and to long-time fans, but also in this case Julie spices up any scene she is in, she works on several storyline levels, and her and Doug are the oldest couple on any show.

    FreemanGriffin
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    Julie will die and will be brought back to life by Dr. Rolfe’s serum – mark my words!

    Tony Ruiz
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    One thing that’s always bothered me. Will and Sonny are fine with all the garbage Gabi pulled with Abigail? And they’re ok with her being married to a guy that pointed a gun and Will’s grandmother? How about the fact that Gabi left Julie to die? Do these people communicate AT ALL?

    syrus80
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    I cannot wait for Robin Strasser to be off my screen as Vivian. She’s playing her as if she’s Dorian with that ridiculous accent when she says Rolf’s name and her scenery chewing tics. I will never understand how she was once revered as one of daytime’s best actresses when most of her roles have been better played by other actresses (Victoria Wyndham and Elaine Princi).

    The apparent twist is that the show will jump ahead one year. We’ll see how that pans out.

    FreemanGriffin
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    I am not happy with all this Robin Strasser bashing – she is my all-time favorite daytime actress and I LOVE HER Vivian! She’s been wonderful in the role! We will have to agree to disagree. I am glad she’s reminding me of Dorian as I loved her as Dorian, my all-time favorite soap opera villainess! I hope she wins the Guest Performer Emmy! (:

    Tony Ruiz
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    I agree. Strasser is totally wrong for this role.

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    I have to agree. Everything is off about Strasser’s Vivian; her make-up, her clothing, her hair and her line delivery. Most can be blamed on the writing, but the performance is not right for Vivian.

    EmmyLoser
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    I’m actually mostly liking Robin Strasser’s Vivian. I stand by what I’d said previously, that Vivian really isn’t a character they should have killed and then resurrected and recast rather than just writing her off or, once dead-ish, letting her stay off canvas. (Vivian being held in the same condo or whatever with Nicole and Holly doesn’t even make sense.) But I think the writing for the character has picked up well on where it had left off (not my favorite version of Vivian, but not an inconsistent one either). Strasser’s being a little more fanciful with her pronunciations (though certainly Louise Sorel’s Viv would slip into a French accent any opportunity she got). And the look is different, but that’s probably better than the show trying to fit Stasser into Sorel’s mold. I also appreciate that Vivian didn’t intentionally bury Kate alive, though she should have done a better job of making sure she was dead if that was her intention. It did give Kate a badass moment of dragging herself, dirt-covered and near death, into the hospital (much more dramatic than GH’s Andre doing a similar thing off camera). I still haven’t seen the last few episodes, so I don’t know what else Vivian might get up to, but again, after what they’ve written for her last two stints, they didn’t need to bring her back in the first place. I would have been fine with Robin Strasser being someone else, like maybe Stefan’s adoptive mother, because it’s not like we needed someone to show up and shoot Kate.

    I am still a few episodes behind, but the show feels like such a mess. You make a great point, Tony Ruiz, about the lack of communication, or I guess logical connection, between these characters. For me the best recent example was Eric immediately insisting that Kristen, a woman whose go-to activity in her spare time is to try to kill his mother, be freed from jail and given immunity in exchange for Nicole’s location, without considering any other options (like the police maybe investigating for five minutes) or feeling torn about what she might do. This writing regime seems to have really lost touch with these characters, who they are, what they care about, what their general functions are, etc. It is incredibly frustrating to watch. One of the things that made the Tomlin/Whitesell era so good, in my opinion, was how well drawn the characters were and how connected they were with each other. So much of what happens now is just in service of writing a story that doesn’t make sense.

    I don’t know if others feel this way, but Eric has been completely insufferable since Kristen was unmasked and he started looking for Nicole. I have so little interest in Eric and Nicole being together, which makes it all the more annoying when Eric is treating Sarah like garbage or suddenly able to beat up a beefy guard or pretending to be a police officer. Can’t stand it. The saving grace of this story right now is Xander, whose (somewhat baffling) affection for Sarah is the only interesting or enjoyable component here. I would love it if Eric and Nicole got together and then Eric quickly realized, as Nicole does what she typically does and dips into being scheming, manipulative and selfish, that he’s been chasing a fantasy of a person and they don’t belong together.

    I heard the rumor about the time jump, which could be good but also sounds pretty desperate. Now, if they wanted to use this time jump to eliminate their six/seven-month gap between filming and airing, that would be great. But I doubt that’s happening. Also, it seems like Brandon Barash is back at the show filming, so that’s something.

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    I agree the show is a mess right now. It’s so disappointing. Robin Strasser was actually very good and felt very ‘Vivian’ in her scenes with Will and Sonny and particularly in her scenes with Sarah. I just think her first few weeks were all over the place and over the top, even for that character.

    For me, a big problem is the character of Sarah. She just didn’t need to be added to the canvas. The writing is not helping her either. She comes across as unlikable and shrill most of the time. I could go without ever seeing another scene of her hyperventilating, darting her eyes or snapping at anyone. The one person that seems to truly care about her is Xander and she treats him horribly.

    Another problem is Jack (and Eve). I was never a big fan of Jack, but this incarnation is just terrible. Why would anyone want Jack and Jennifer together?? There is no nuance in Matthew Ashford’s performance either. I use to really like Eve – even when she was sleeping with JJ, you could feel her regret, her pain. Her scenes after Paige died were amazing, but this version of Eve has no rooting value at all.

    Sonny and Will are just boring now. Thank goodness Ted is gone. There are a few bright spots. Ben and Ciara – amazing chemistry. Ben is so good in every scene he is in. I love Gabi and Stefan. Kate always brings it. I love any scene with Julie. And even at 94, Doug brings more emotion and spark to his scenes than almost anyone on the show. Such charisma! John and Marlena are always welcome. (Drake has grown so much as an actor. I always think his best scenes are with Sami. They have such a connection. So much is said between them with just a look or a smile.) I wish they had kept Chloe.

    The rest of the cast just seem to be floundering – Hope, Rafe, JJ, Victor, Adrienne, Justin.

    FreemanGriffin
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    I was so bored by today’s episode I hardly watched. The writing simply isn’t good enough and the show has mostly gone off the rails. I still care about the characters – and actors who portray them – but I have been bored. There have been individual episodes and scenes that have worked but the focus of the show for me is all wrong. I especially wish they would get rid of Sarah – she is sucking so much oxygen out of the show right now.

    They need to do something different with Sonny and Will – have Sonny be the one who is in peril perhaps? Bring Paul back? They need something more interesting to do.

    I haven’t been enjoying Eric this past year, and he (and Greg Vaughan) were one of my very favorites. Again it’s the writing!

    Zander is wonderful and is always my favorite these days, especially his scenes with Maggie. His trying to change is interesting but of course I like Zander to have his edge too!

    I miss all the characters who have been back-burnered. They need to do a better job of including the whole canvas and that means cutting back on their obvious favorites.

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    Yeah, I think the reasons that Xander seems to be resonating a lot with people is partly because of Paul Telfer’s natural charm and obvious good looks but also partly that he’s got a pretty classic soap arc — he was a heartless loner who did a bunch of terrible things for his own gain and now he’s actually connected with people who make him want to be a better person. Why don’t more people have something interesting like that going on? It makes for more compelling scenes with people he cares about now, people who still expect him to be the same villain he was before, and people who feel wronged by him.

    DramaKing, I totally agree with you about Jack and Eve and Will and Sonny. It’s amazing that the show thought people would root for Jack and Jennifer to be together given the way he’s behaved, and kind of astounding how little rooting value they’ve given Eve. She did try to get Rolfe’s diary back to help Will out, at some minor risk to her position at the time, but she’s been a terror since then. It’s hard to stomach characters who respond to the death or near-death of those around them with a total lack of concern, like Eve hearing that Kate was fighting for her life and deciding that was her opportunity to make a play for DiMera CEO. (Also, the number of people trying to be the CEO of something on this show is ABSURD. These business stories rarely go any deeper than just talking about who’s in charge and us being told whether they’re doing a good or bad job, which is not compelling as a story hook.)

    Sonny and Will have become not just boring but also baffoonish. They take forever to figure out what’s going on and then talk about it like they’re clever — like it should have taken them maybe two seconds to realize that Vivian had shot Kate. The show seems to want to fold them into the crowd that’s a little older than them, but I don’t know why, since the show clearly needs some younger people. Maybe once Chad and Abigail get back they’ll also start writing them as connected to that group along with Ben, Ciara, and Gabi.

    Also, I don’t think Eric Martsolf gets enough credit for how much he commits to Brady and all of his crap. The stuff he has to pull off feels insulting and ridiculous a lot of the time, but he does a great job.

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