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    I’m not sure what to make of Y&R. Granted, I don’t watch it everyday, so I’m sure I’ve missed stuff, but some of the writing (or lack there of) leaves me confused.

    Jack and Ashley go to Florida to bring Dina back. Have they set up a meeting with Michael for Dina to change her power of attorney? Wasn’t that part of the reason why they wanted her back so soon? Graham hasn’t been seen in awhile. I’m sure he’ll pop up when we least expect it, but why hasn’t he come back to Genoa City yet?

    Crystal is afraid that she’ll be found in witness protection, so she runs back to Genoa City and goes directly to Crimson Lights (where Zack lives and hangs out????). Why would she run back to the place she’s afraid of and then she takes off again.

    Scott and Abby are not my favorite characters. It scares me that they were kissing at the end of today’s episode. For some reason, I figured they would end up together, but I’m not thrilled with them.

    I’d love to see Michael/Lauren and Paul/Christine on more. On dates, with romance. Unfortunately that probably won’t happen.

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    robbalto
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    Gatorman: “Have they set up a meeting with Michael for Dina to change her power of attorney? Crystal is afraid that she’ll be found in witness protection, so she runs back to Genoa City and goes directly to Crimson Lights where Zack lives and hangs out?”

    These are questions that I also asked myself. Such details chip away at the show’s credibility. I did not mention them because I was focused on bigger-picture issues, I suppose. I hate what they are doing with Victoria, and I’m not enjoying Abby at all.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Mal Young is obsessed with having everything happen on the actual day, which is not the way soaps work! I have no idea where Graeme is (or how to spell his name!), nor why Dina was so dog-gone happy in those scenes where Ashley and Jack found her… I am confused by the stories right now because the writing isn’t clear…

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    FreemanGriffin
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    I have been mostly unhappy with Y&R lately. The latest: I don’t like that they have broken up Jack and Nikki – simply put, I don’t want Nikki going back to Victor for the gazillionth time. For once can’t a love addicted woman of a horrible man stand up for herself and leave him once and for all? This addiction afflicts Carly on GH, Alexis on GH, Brooke on B&B (more than one man!), etc., etc.

    I have been loving Mariah and Dina and they are the reasons I continue to watch (:

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    robbalto
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    I too am unhappy with Y&R. To give a few examples:

    Victoria is my biggest issue. She has been one of my favorite characters since the spring, and now she is being destroyed in record time.

    This is nothing new, but Victor. I am so over this character and the stupid stories in which he is involved. Enough!

    I do not like Abby, and I have no interest in Scott and Abby as a couple.

    Cane is nowhere to be seen. It seems like they are gearing up to return him to the boring life he had before Sally Sussman started writing Y&R.

    Chelsea and Nick were both obnoxious when she was revealed on “The Hilary Hour.” Ugh.

    Jack breaking up with Nikki was stupid.

    Christine has turned into a raging witch. I can’t help but remember back in the day when she was always smiling.

    Overall, I watch serials because I like the characters. But the way they are being written is making it very difficult to like any of them. Essentially, most of the characters lack rooting value.

    Of course, I still love Mariah. And I agree that Marla Adams is turning strong performances as Dina.

    Y&R needs a shake-up… something more than just big, over-the-top, event-oriented storytelling.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    I enjoyed today’s episode. Nikki/Jack/Dina’s scenes, esp. Dina competing with Nikki as to who’s disease is worse (!) was fun. Nikki trying to make amends, and staying friends with Jack, who absurdly kicked her to the curb, was actually a relief to watch. (But I will not enjoy her gazillionth reunion with Victor).

    I feel bad for Tessa, since she is being honest that she doesn’t know of any connection with Victor – to make that a condition seems absurd. But the story was well done today, with Hillary being her usual atrocious self and getting everybody mad at her on The Hillary Hour.

    Ravi’s decision to move over to Newman Enterprises surprised me. Ashley does take advantage of him but that seemed drastic to me.

    I actually enjoyed every scene in this episode, which is rare for me.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    While on the one hand I really enjoyed Nikki being so intelligent and putting the pieces together and confronting Kevin (who surprisingly confessed to part of it, just lying about his motivation), what bothers me is that this is further proof of how toxic Victor is, yet I have such a strong suspicion they will put her back with Victor before too much longer ):

    I feel so bad for Sharon. Things are going so well for her and they will eventually blow up yet again. Personally I want her back with Nick and am surprised how many years it has been since they were last together. They are the couple who I DO want back together!

    That almost kiss between Scott and Abby was interesting.

    The Hillary Hour has been utilized well this week.

    I don’t really love the storylines but I have actually enjoyed the show this past week (perversely, I suppose).

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    I wonder how the majority of fans feel about Nick and Sharon at this point? I really love the idea of them getting back together, and I’ve yet to see either of them be a better match with anyone else, but I think at this point it would take a pretty good build to put them back together in a way that makes sense and feels solid. I’d be all for it, though.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    The confrontation between Jack and Ashley was FIERCE! Really great soap! (: I am on Team Ashley all the way!!!! (:

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    Did someone pour nasty pills into the Genoa City water supply? I feel the characters have all become so snarky and disagreeable. The overall tone of the show is tabloidesque. In order for me to enjoy the show, the characters need to have rooting value. That is somewhat lacking. Y&R has some good moments, but I am not really enjoying the show these days.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    ^i think what you are picking up is Mal Young’s belief system and how he sees the world ): Even though what you say is true I find this is the only other show than Days where I can make it through complete episodes these days…

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    I was trying to remember who the guest/limited performers have been on the show in 2017 and am drawing a blank – have we seen Ian Ward (Ray Wise) this year? I watch this show every day and all I can think of is Beth Maitland. Personally, I think Jess Walton drops by for guest stints but I know she is considered a regular. I think the problem for me is that the guest performers haven’t been particularly memorable for me in 2017…

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    I had mixed feelings about the Christmas episode. It had it’s entertaining moments but it felt off somehow. I have never understood all the animosity between Sharon and Nikki. Nikki has always come across to me as way too judgmental towards Sharon and it has never made any sense to me. Based on their early lives I would think they would be really close friends and Nikki would be empathetic towards her.

    I like Hillary and Devon but I don’t like them together.

    I don’t like Gina Tognoni’s take on Phyllis and I don’t like Jason Thompson’s take on Billy; I don’t like Phyllis and Billy together either!

    The actress who played the thief resembled a younger Robin Mattson. She was interesting and I would like for her to become a regular on the show. Didn’t care much for the vignette but I did enjoy her performance.

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    I like that Y&R aired a new, holiday-themed show on Christmas. The result was mixed, but as the saying goes, it’s the thought that counts.

    The flaw with Billy and Phyllis is the same as the flaw with Ridge and Thorne. When you have two major actors playing off one another, and they are both recasts of long-standing core characters, it tends not to work for longtime viewers. I still see Billy and Phyllis as David Tom and Michelle Stafford in the Glow by Jabot summer house. I may never get past that memory, but seeing the recasts together exacerbates rather than assuages my resistance. I think Jason Thompson has made Billy his own, but I just do not see him with Phyllis.

    The intermittent friction between Nikki and Sharon was most plausible when Sharon threatened Nikki’s status as Queen Bee of the Newmans. Their conflicts have historically been tempered with periods where they were able to get along, much the way real-life family relationships can vacillate. Mal Young seems to be focused on the snark, with little regard to the rooting value of characters, so I was not surprised by their icy exchange.

    I have a feeling Hillary and Devon will reunite, and I’m not sure how I feel about it. It’s difficult to get a handle on Hillary, as her character has not been written consistently over the years.

    The Christmas Eve showdown with Jack and Ashley was really unpleasant. Not at all what I expect from Y&R on Christmas.

    Overall, the show is lacking in good stories. It’s almost all business right now, and I am not interested in Newman Enterprises nor Chancellor Industries. I think the show works better with more focused businesses like Brash and Sassy and Jabot.

    That said, I appreciate the focus on the holidays, even if too many characters are channelling their inner Ebenezers.

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    I don’t know if that letter Hillary wrote as a child is going to lead anywhere that makes her something other than just a horrible tabloid type person.

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