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April 10, 2022 at 8:05 pm #1204911905
For 21st shows w/multiple drama series noms, these are the ones whose finales were absolutely despised, ranked as the worst ep of the whole show on imdb:
The Good Wife, Killing Eve, GoT, House of Cards, Dexter. Which is THE worst of the worst?
ReplyApril 10, 2022 at 8:08 pm #1204911908Nice thread jjjmoss! Will be fun to see who prevails. (Although I kinda have a hunch).
P.S: I would have had already created this thread if there was no restriction imposed on me with regards to the number of threads I can create per week.
ReplyCopy URLApril 10, 2022 at 8:15 pm #1204911920Evwn though I agree the last season was bad, I don’t think the House of Cards series finale is so bad considering what they had to deal with.
ReplyCopy URLApril 10, 2022 at 8:16 pm #1204911922I’m sorry but no one can beat the original Dexter finale as worst. A lot have tried but no one comes close for me.
ReplyCopy URLApril 10, 2022 at 8:25 pm #1204911926I gave up on House of Cards after S3 after the fake Putin. Was the finale that bad?
ReplyCopy URLApril 10, 2022 at 8:42 pm #1204911934I have a feeling this thread is going to be recreated on here in a few years time…
ReplyCopy URLFYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.
April 10, 2022 at 8:43 pm #1204911936Nothing compares with the failure that was Game of Thrones end. They had everything: budget, one of the greatest production teams ever, great cast, good directors, huge fandom, industry support. But all of these are in the hands of two stupid showrunners that decide to rush the ending and didn’t have the talent to made even a mediocre series finale. It wasn’t necessary create something truly great, epic and unique, but at least a Disney end with some blockbuster action and fanservice. (like season seven)
ReplyCopy URLApril 10, 2022 at 8:47 pm #1204911940Game of Thrones is the easy answer because of how gigantic it was at the time of its final season (and the relative little discussion of the season 7 quality dip beforehand) but in terms of singular episodes its really hard to top Dexter. House of Cards was probably even more awful than GOT but it had been bad for a few years and was also in a doomed position.
ReplyCopy URLApril 10, 2022 at 9:04 pm #1204911957I think at the end of the day the one that had the least excuse to have a terrible series finale here was Game of Thrones. Sure they didn’t have George R.R. Martin’s source material to guide them but in spite of the dip in quality that I keep moaning about on here that the shows writing had the preceding season, the seasons the show-runners wrote without GRR’s books to guide them weren’t anywhere near as rushed in pacing or storytelling. The end product that was season 8 was just as a result of incompetence.
Killing Eve, Dexter and House of Cards also had incompetently written finales and The Good Wife had a disappointing one but at least each of those shows had excuses with the former two both having changing show-runners, House of Cards having to retool its whole season due to what happened behind the scenes and The Good Wife shifting its entire character and era focus to spawn The Good Fight. Game of Thrones by comparison had a final destination from its original creator and whilst I question whether D&D would have been able to deliver an “excellent” final season of television, the decision to focus on visual effects driven action as opposed to character driven drama and to trim down the season from 8 episodes to 6 was just naive.
I will say though I do agree with what’s been said above about House of Cards having been quite bad for a couple of years by the time of the final season. I guess this could also be said about Killing Eve and even to an extent Dexter but there were several times where you just had to ask “ok why can’t they just end it here” considering how lifeless the latter seasons of the show were.
ReplyCopy URLFYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.
April 10, 2022 at 9:38 pm #1204911981I think at the end of the day the one that had the least excuse to have a terrible series finale here was Game of Thrones.
To me it’s the opposite – it was huge and unwieldy and they’d signed up expected to be guided by books that never came so I am sympathetic for them being out of their depth- not to mention I think people wilfully ignore the fact that they’d set up the show as a house of cards where it was very hard to write someone out and the cast’s market value at season 6 or 7 was through the roof and they were clearly having to turn things down (something which has been explicitly stated in interviews but just doesn’t get the clickbait traction of “Benioff and Weiss rushed to go to Star Wars”).
ReplyCopy URLApril 10, 2022 at 9:56 pm #1204911997To me it’s the opposite – it was huge and unwieldy and they’d signed up expected to be guided by books that never came so I am sympathetic for them being out of their depth- not to mention I think people wilfully ignore the fact that they’d set up the show as a house of cards where it was very hard to write someone out and the cast’s market value at season 6 or 7 was through the roof and they were clearly having to turn things down (something which has been explicitly stated in interviews but just doesn’t get the clickbait traction of “Benioff and Weiss rushed to go to Star Wars”).
But HBO executives always expressed the desire to make more seasons, it was Benioff and Weiss decision to finish with season 8. Even Martin wanted more seasons (he believed he could finish the book but well…)
Isn’t even the Star Wars thing, but when you watch the final season you can’t see any trace of love in their work, I think the only script that manifested love for the show was Bryan Cogman episode 2, (the great) “A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms”. The rest was a illogical and rushed end without the trace of any care and structure. Even without the final books to support the final seasons, a good showrunner could at least take the main storyline and the simpler aspects of the books and create a good end for the show. But when you saw any interview Benioff and Weiss gave after the end of the show, it clear that even them didn’t know what they were doing.
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