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    SCAM that’s been all over facebook for the past couple of days. Don’t fall for it

    No, apparently she has only a couple seconds to liv- Aaaand, she’s gone! RIP RBG, I attended her funeral already and it was packed. What a legend. If only we had listened to those Facebook scams that totally were not at all created by trolls for their own stupid amusement! *sarcasm*

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    No, apparently she has only a couple seconds to liv- Aaaand, she’s gone! RIP RBG, I attended her funeral already and it was packed. What a legend. If only we had listened to those Facebook scams that totally were not at all created by trolls for their own stupid amusement! *sarcasm*

    No joke someone I know who I thought was really smart somehow fell for it and did this whole thing about how we lost a legend and all that and we were like UM how do we tell him before he spreads this one to everyone at the college he is a TA at and apparantly we were too late. And that’s how a political science TA got scammed.

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    Anonymous
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    No joke someone I know who I thought was really smart somehow fell for it and did this whole thing about how we lost a legend and all that and we were like UM how do we tell him before he spreads this one to everyone at the college he is a TA at and apparantly we were too late. And that’s how a political science TA got scammed.

    Let’s just be grateful that the scam was merely that she was in a coma and not that she was a lizard person born on Mars this whole time! It is a truly insane time for this world we live in where people will believe anything that is told to them if it is said in even a remotely professional and serious manner, even if what they are being told has no factual accuracy whatsoever.

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    vinny
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    Let’s just be grateful that the scam was merely that she was in a coma and not that she was a lizard person born on Mars this whole time! It is a truly insane time for this world we live in where people will believe anything that is told to them if it is said in even a remotely professional and serious manner, even if what they are being told has no factual accuracy whatsoever.

    He would have fallen for that too.

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    Marcus Snowden (The Artist Formerly Known as msnowden1)
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    I hope that Bernie doesn’t run again. I personally believe that we will lose in 2020 if he becomes the nominee. People truly don’t realize how much many Democrats (myself included) loathe him for his 2016 actions. I think he deserves quite a bit of the blame for why Trump was elected. His rhetoric created issues for Hillary that she couldn’t quite shake during the general, and Trump used his rhetoric to nail her on various issues.

    Plus, he doesn’t have the support of black voters. His lack of support doomed him in 2016, IMO. There’s no way that he’s going to win that bloc with two top-tier African-American candidates this cycle in Harris and Booker also running. He can deviate from his “identity politics” rhetoric, but I think that a lot of people in my demographic will see through it.

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    I hope that Bernie doesn’t run again. I personally believe that we will lose in 2020 if he becomes the nominee. People truly don’t realize how much many Democrats (myself included) loathe him for his 2016 actions. I think he deserves quite a bit of the blame for why Trump was elected. His rhetoric created issues for Hillary that she couldn’t quite shake during the general, and Trump used his rhetoric to nail her on various issues.

    Plus, he doesn’t have the support of black voters. His lack of support doomed him in 2016, IMO. There’s no way that he’s going to win that bloc with two top-tier African-American candidates this cycle in Harris and Booker also running. He can deviate from his “identity politics” rhetoric, but I think that a lot of people in my demographic will see through it.

    Wow, someone watches way too much mainstream media.

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    I hope that Bernie doesn’t run again. I personally believe that we will lose in 2020 if he becomes the nominee. People truly don’t realize how much many Democrats (myself included) loathe him for his 2016 actions. I think he deserves quite a bit of the blame for why Trump was elected. His rhetoric created issues for Hillary that she couldn’t quite shake during the general, and Trump used his rhetoric to nail her on various issues.

    Plus, he doesn’t have the support of black voters. His lack of support doomed him in 2016, IMO. There’s no way that he’s going to win that bloc with two top-tier African-American candidates this cycle in Harris and Booker also running. He can deviate from his “identity politics” rhetoric, but I think that a lot of people in my demographic will see through it.

    More black voters supported Bernie than Hillary, I think, or at least more younger black voters did for sure.

    Bernie was never given a fair shot in the primaries. In leaked emails Tom Perez (before he became DNC chair) talked about wanting to “put a knife in” Bernie’s Latino support. There were very few debates scheduled, look at all 50+ counties in West Virginia going for Bernie but the super-delegates gave Hillary the win of that state, which embarrassed our democracy and letting the people have their say.

    Bernie Sanders had a 12-point lead on Trump in July of 2016, he would have won in a LANDSLIDE! He appealed to old, young, independents, most of the Democratic Party (he is currently polling higher than all the 2020 candidates except Biden) even some Republicans he would have represented millennials of all races. YES, Bernie would have won, Putin’s interference be damned. The numbers don’t lie, 12 points is one hell of a lead, no matter how hard Trump would have fought to win. #Hindsight2020 #Bernie2020

    Hillary Clinton’s own sense of entitlement and refusal to let the Democratic voters fairly and transparently decide the nominee is primarily what did her in more than anything else. I think you’ve been duped by the corporate media who always was against Bernie’s consistently progressive track record, with him voting against the Patriot Act, the Iraq War, the Bankruptcy Bill. Black Lives Matter switched their endorsement to him over Hillary for good reason.

    Besides, Joe Biden is about as old and nobody ever brings that up as a negative with him, due to him being an anti-progressive neo-liberal Dem establishment candidate.

    By the way, you just proved his valid points (“rhetoric” lol) about identity politics playing far too big of a role over actual concrete policy and prior voting records in the minds of some Dem voters when you notably brought up Booker and Harris’ skin color. Booker is owned by Big Pharma (look at his donors and voting record in the Senate) and Wall Street, while Kamala has… a lot of shady baggage. She not only opposed body cams on cops, she criminalized truancy, she once laughed off legalizing weed, she would be an atrocious and insulting candidate for the Black Lives Matter era, even with her being a black woman.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvdTz-Of61s

    I think this tweet sums up the left’s reaction to Kamala Harris perfectly, who would get obliterated by Trump by the way, due to bored independent voters.

    https://twitter.com/CNRush/status/1087406141691310080

    “Black Lives Matter until it’s a Black woman who refused to investigate cop shootings and resisted bodycams while simultaneously coming up with new ways to put poor people in prison who’s running for POTUS.”

    One last thing about Bernie, I’m not wanting to argue, there is so much else I could bring up, but I will leave you with Donna Brazile’s own words.

    “Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC”

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

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    This Onion article is only funny because it is so true! I guess they have stopped doing satire? (;

    “Cory Booker Apologizes To Wall Street Bankers For The Mean Things He’s Going To Have To Say About Them”

    https://politics.theonion.com/cory-booker-apologizes-to-wall-street-bankers-for-the-m-1832268385

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    More black voters supported Bernie than Hillary, I think, or at least more younger black voters did for sure.

    Bernie was never given a fair shot in the primaries. In leaked emails Tom Perez (before he became DNC chair) talked about wanting to “put a knife in” Bernie’s Latino support. There were very few debates scheduled, look at all 50+ counties in West Virginia going for Bernie but the super-delegates gave Hillary the win of that state, which embarrassed our democracy and letting the people have their say.

    Bernie Sanders had a 12-point lead on Trump in July of 2016, he would have won in a LANDSLIDE! He appealed to old, young, independents, most of the Democratic Party (he is currently polling higher than all the 2020 candidates except Biden) even some Republicans he would have represented millennials of all races. YES, Bernie would have won, Putin’s interference be damned. The numbers don’t lie, 12 points is one hell of a lead, no matter how hard Trump would have fought to win. #Hindsight2020 #Bernie2020

    Hillary Clinton’s own sense of entitlement and refusal to let the Democratic voters fairly and transparently decide the nominee is primarily what did her in more than anything else. I think you’ve been duped by the corporate media who always was against Bernie’s consistently progressive track record, with him voting against the Patriot Act, the Iraq War, the Bankruptcy Bill. Black Lives Matter switched their endorsement to him over Hillary for good reason.

    Besides, Joe Biden is about as old and nobody ever brings that up as a negative with him, due to him being an anti-progressive neo-liberal Dem establishment candidate.

    By the way, you just proved his valid points (“rhetoric” lol) about identity politics playing far too big of a role over actual concrete policy and prior voting records in the minds of some Dem voters when you notably brought up Booker and Harris’ skin color. Booker is owned by Big Pharma (look at his donors and voting record in the Senate) and Wall Street, while Kamala has… a lot of shady baggage. She not only opposed body cams on cops, she criminalized truancy, she once laughed off legalizing weed, she would be an atrocious and insulting candidate for the Black Lives Matter era, even with her being a black woman.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvdTz-Of61s

    I think this tweet sums up the left’s reaction to Kamala Harris perfectly, who would get obliterated by Trump by the way, due to bored independent voters.

    https://twitter.com/CNRush/status/1087406141691310080

    “Black Lives Matter until it’s a Black woman who refused to investigate cop shootings and resisted bodycams while simultaneously coming up with new ways to put poor people in prison who’s running for POTUS.”

    One last thing about Bernie, I’m not wanting to argue, there is so much else I could bring up, but I will leave you with Donna Brazile’s own words.

    “Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC”

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

    First off, Biden is an even bigger gift to Trump due to his 40+ years in Washington and a shit record. He’s as bad as Bernie, if not worse.

    Secondly, Bernie was 30 points behind Hillary in black voters. He was tied with her with Hispanics, but the South basically won Clinton the nomination. On Hillary winning the nomination, Bernie was eliminated by Super Tuesday. Unfortunately, his ego refused to let it sink in and he continued to campaign for the nomination despite everyone seeing that the nomination was Hillary’s.

    Bernie got treated with kid gloves by the media in 2016. Studies have shown that Hillary got much of the harsh treatment from the media while him and Trump benefited greatly from free media. No one talked about him voting for the CFMA or him backing the 1994 Crime Bill. In fact, most of the media laid the 1994 crime bill at Hillary’s feet.

    I don’t really see how Bernie does better in a crowded ass field like this when he couldn’t win when he was essentially facing one person in 2016. That primary was his ceiling, not his floor.

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    Marcus Snowden (The Artist Formerly Known as msnowden1)
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    Wow, someone watches way too much mainstream media.

    No. It’s just polls and my opinion. He’s not the most popular politician like you guys claim he is.

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    vinny
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    I like Bernie BUT he needs to stop running for President. Just sit down Bernie and do your job and support who the nominee is and we’re all good.

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    I like Bernie BUT he needs to stop running for President. Just sit down Bernie and do your job and support who the nominee is and we’re all good.

    Hillary lost the nomination in 2008 but no one asked her to “sit down.” She ending up blowing it in 2016. Bernie has significantly more name recognition now than he had in 2016, super-delegates have helpfully been eliminated from the first round of voting to ensure the people will actually have their voice be heard this time around.

    This is his moment. He also shouldn’t support the nominee if the nominee won’t support progressive values. Primaries are for making sure we get the best possible nominee to take down Trump. According to polls, that appears to be either Bernie or (though I don’t get the love for this guy) Biden. Bernie’s voting record has been consistent, he has earned it, and it is now or never for him. You know if Bernie becomes the nominee he is easily winning, right? I think plenty of Dem candidates like Gillibrand, Castro, and even Booker could lose to Trump purely on a lack of widespread passion. Many independents also wanted to vote for Bernie in the 2016 primaries but unfortunately weren’t able to due to “closed primaries” where only registered Dems could vote for Dems.

    A great comparison to Bernie in this election scenario I think is Reagan. He lost the primary in 1976 to the establishment fave (who to be fair was already the President) Ford, who lost the general election in a close race. Then, Reagan ran again with more passion among his supporters than ever before in 1980 and won with a nation pissed off at the President from the opposite party. Sound familiar?

    With Reagan in ’76 not enough voters could be persuaded to go that far right and with Bernie in 2016 not enough registered Dem voters could be persuaded to go that far left. Things changed the next time around for Reagan, but we’ll see if history repeats itself for the better with the Bern.

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    Hillary lost the nomination in 2008 but no one asked her to “sit down.” She ending up blowing it in 2016. Bernie has significantly more name recognition now than he had in 2016, super-delegates have helpfully been eliminated from the first round of voting to ensure the people will actually have their voice be heard this time around.

    This is his moment. He also shouldn’t support the nominee if the nominee won’t support progressive values. Primaries are for making sure we get the best possible nominee to take down Trump. According to polls, that appears to be either Bernie or (though I don’t get the love for this guy) Biden. Bernie’s voting record has been consistent, he has earned it, and it is now or never for him. You know if Bernie becomes the nominee he is easily winning, right? I think plenty of Dem candidates like Gillibrand, Castro, and even Booker could lose to Trump purely on a lack of widespread passion. Many independents also wanted to vote for Bernie in the 2016 primaries but unfortunately weren’t able to due to “closed primaries” where only registered Dems could vote for Dems.

    A great comparison to Bernie in this election scenario I think is Reagan. He lost the primary in 1976 to the establishment fave (who to be fair was already the President) Ford, who lost the general election in a close race. Then, Reagan ran again with more passion among his supporters than ever before in 1980 and won with a nation pissed off at the President from the opposite party. Sound familiar?

    With Reagan in ’76 not enough voters could be persuaded to go that far right and with Bernie in 2016 not enough registered Dem voters could be persuaded to go that far left. Things changed the next time around for Reagan, but we’ll see if history repeats itself for the better with the Bern.

    I feel like Bernie took way too long to bow out when it came down to himself and Clinton. And she made a mistake not choosing him for VP. Hell, I hope she doesn’t run either. Just so people can’t say its 2016 all over again

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    I feel like Bernie took way too long to bow out when it came down to himself and Clinton. And she made a mistake not choosing him for VP. Hell, I hope she doesn’t run either. Just so people can’t say its 2016 all over again

    Honestly, I think that Hillary should’ve chosen Sherrod Brown as VP. I like Tim Kaine, we needed someone from the Rust Belt on the ticket with her.

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    I feel like Bernie took way too long to bow out when it came down to himself and Clinton. And she made a mistake not choosing him for VP. Hell, I hope she doesn’t run either. Just so people can’t say its 2016 all over again

    With Bernie there is excitement currently, whereas with Hillary there is notable fatigue. Her numbers were already poor before she lost to the bigoted cheeto, but they have gone down since her defeat. Just look at the polls. Bernie only took as long to drop out as he did because he was understandably waiting to see if the FBI would actually charge Hillary with those emails. Also, many Americans (even though I think this is BS) think she was responsible for Benghazi. Legit criticisms and illegitimate ones of her, she only made it as far into the primaries as she did due to name recognition, ignorance of her voting record as a politician, and (hate to say it but its true) pure identity politics with her being female. I guarantee you no male candidate could have EVER called black teenagers “super-predators” (let alone the votes for the Patriot Act and Wall Street bailouts and a million other illiberal things) and gotten away with it like she annoyingly did. Meanwhile, Bernie marched with Martin Luther King Jr., he was handcuffed to black women in the ’60s, he didn’t do that to score political points, he did it because he was that rarest of people in the political world: A decent smart person with empathy in their heart.

    I don’t always agree with his views, but even when I disagree I feel comfortable in knowing he at least thinks what is he doing will help others or what he is saying will help the culture. Him and Ro Khanna also get Amazon workers wage increases recently, while Hillary is out there selling her stupid book in which she blames everyone for her election loss except herself, aka the person most responsible for that disaster.

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