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    Hilarious, Pook, especially the first line, slightly modified

    “Democrato, why don’t you come to your senses?”

    And judging by their Derbyite spokesman above, truly desperate. What lot of words signifying nothing. Well, ‘never interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake’, and they are consistent, relentless and incorrigible. Keep it up

    link after link after link from CNN right? Which have no substantive information. Not even poll numbers. And opinion piece after opinion piece that line up with his own .Connected to ABC and RIGGS banks.

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    Yeah, bye Kamala…

    Speaking of sports and politics

    NBA TV Ratings Collapse After Bowing to China

    TV ratings for the National Basketball Association have collapsed this year, a season that kicked off with the league bowing to communist China.

    In October, just as the NBA’s 2019 pre-season was kicking off, Houston Rockets GM Daryl Morey tweeted a short message in support of the pro-democracy activists in China-controlled Hong Kong. The league immediately erupted in condemnation for the Rockets boss and bowed to Chinese authorities. NBA Commissioner Adam Silver quickly apologized to China.

    League officials were not the only ones in basketball to take a knee before China. Many of the players, including star LeBron James, came to China’s side over the rights of the citizens of Hong Kong.

    The league is showing “double digit drops nationally.”
    TNT down 23%
    ESPN down 20%
    RSNs down 13%ng to live in a democracy.

    I really despise hypocrites.  This is from someone who thinks he is the greatest basketball player of all time:

    LeBron James
    -Injustice Anywhere Is A Threat To Justice Everywhere- Our Lives Begin To End The Day We Become Silent About Things That Matter-

    Things that matter?  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ right, LeBron?

    WE ARE MORALLY OBLIGATED TO ENSURE THE PEOPLE OF HONG ATTAIN AND RETAIN FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!      WOKE UP ALREADY

     

     

     

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    Impeachment hearing chairman: If Trump committed impeachable offenses, we “must move swiftly”
    by Jeremy Herb and Manu Raju, CNN
    Updated 10:53 AM ET, Wed December 4, 2019

    (CNN) House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler on Wednesday vowed to move swiftly to impeach President Donald Trump if his committee finds that Trump committed an impeachable offense, kicking off a process that could lead to the third impeachment of a President in US history.

    “Never before, in the history of the republic, have we been forced to consider the conduct of a president who appears to have solicited personal, political favors from a foreign government,” Nadler, a Democrat from New York, said as he opened his committee’s first impeachment hearing. “When we apply the Constitution to those facts, if it is true that President Trump has committed an impeachable offense — or impeachable offenses — then we must move swiftly to do our duty and charge him accordingly.”

    The Judiciary Committee’s impeachment proceedings began Wednesday with legal experts testifying on impeachment, but a larger showdown looms between the partisans on the panel expected to clash.

    From the moment Nadler gaveled into the hearing, Republicans raised a host of procedural objections and questions, including forcing votes on motion for House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff to testify and to postpone Wednesday’s hearing.

    Rep. Doug Collins of Georgia, the top Republican on the committee, slammed the Democrats’ impeachment proceedings as a “railroad job.”

    “This is not an impeachment. This is simply a railroad job,” Collins said. “And today is a waste of time.”

    Four law professors were the witnesses for the first hearing who were called to talk about the historical precedent of impeachment and how the allegations against the President apply.

    “The President’s serious misconduct, including bribery, soliciting a personal favor from a foreign leader in exchange for his exercise of power, and obstructing justice and Congress are worse than the misconduct of any prior president, including what previous presidents who faced impeachment have done or been accused of doing,” Michael Gerhardt, a North Carolina University law professor, said in his written statement to the committee.

    The first Judiciary hearing is an academic one to set the stage for the committee’s expected drafting of articles of impeachment against the President. Three of the legal professors invited by Democrats — Harvard University’s Noah Feldman, Stanford University’s Pamela Karlan and Gerhardt — all plan to testify that Trump committed impeachable offenses.

    Jonathan Turley, the George Washington University law professor who is the Republican witness, argued that Democrats failed to meet that standard with their investigation into Trump.

    “I am concerned about lowering impeachment standards to fit a paucity of evidence and an abundance of anger,” Turley said in his written statement. “If the House proceeds solely on the Ukrainian allegations, this impeachment would stand out among modern impeachments as the shortest proceeding, with the thinnest evidentiary record, and the narrowest grounds ever used to impeach a president.”

    The move to the Judiciary Committee is also expected to ratchet up the partisan temperature in the committee room, as the committee has some of the most vocal partisans in Congress on both sides of the aisle.

    Collins said that Republicans would tell the President’s side of the story because he was denied due process, and Republican lawmakers were expected to continue raising procedural objections during the hearing to protest the inquiry. The President’s attorneys were invited to participate in the hearing, but they declined, arguing that the process was unfair and they were given no details about the hearing itself.

    Nadler has given the President’s lawyers until Friday to say whether they will participate in future impeachment proceedings in the committee, which is expected to include a presentation from the Intelligence Committee on its findings.

    Democrats plan to make the Ukraine investigation a focal point of the questioning of the academic witnesses. But several Democratic sources say to expect discussion of former special counsel Robert Mueller’s report to come up as well, which they hope will exhibit a pattern of behavior showing Trump abused his power in office.

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    House Passes Uighur Bill Urging Sanctions on Chinese Officials

    Washington (AFP) – The US House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly Tuesday to toughen Washington’s position against China regarding its treatment of minority Uighurs, calling on President Donald Trump to apply sanctions against senior Chinese officials.

    The Uighur Act of 2019 condemns Beijing’s “gross human rights violations” linked to the crackdown in the western region of Xinjiang, where as many as one million Uighurs and other mostly Muslim minorities are being held in re-education camps.

    The measure, which passed 407 to 1 (just who is the 1 moron?),  a stronger version of the bill that cleared the Senate in September. The two versions must be reconciled into one bill that gets sent to Trump’s desk.

    The vote is sure to draw China’s ire.  Good.  China is the greatest threat to freedom in the world.

     

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    Harvard Law School professor Noah Feldman, one of the Democrats’ star witnesses authored an op-ed featured in Bloomberg in May titled, “It’s Hard to Take Impeachment Seriously Now” and suggested that many of the ongoing discussions of impeaching Trump treat the action as a “trivialized gambit within the ordinary game of electoral politics.”

    “Impeachment was intended by the constitutional framers as a highly serious option reserved for only the most extraordinary, egregious violations of the rule of law,” he wrote.

    “Today’s discussion treats impeachment as a trivialized gambit within the ordinary game of electoral politics. The undermining of the constitutional ideal is near-total,” he continued, calling it “almost laughable.

    This stuff is still on TV,  and I regret losing that 90 or so seconds I wasted verifying it.

     

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    Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), fresh off her holiday in Spain, announced the House would draft articles of impeachment against President Trump.

    “The Do Nothing, Radical Left Democrats have just announced that they are going to seek to Impeach me over NOTHING,” Trump tweeted.

    Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA):

    “We have the facts on our side,” Collins continued. “All they have is hatred of President Trump. All they have is not liking a man who came to office to do what he said he was going to do, and he’s actually doing it. When you got facts on your side, truths on your side, it will win every time.”

     

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    IMPEACHMENT 2020
    “No choice”: Pelosi proceeds with articles of impeachment
    The speaker said investigators have uncovered more than sufficient evidence to show that Trump abused his office.
    By HEATHER CAYGLE and SARAH FERRIS | 12/05/2019 09:12 AM EST | Updated: 12/05/2019 12:15 PM EST

    Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced Thursday that she has asked key chairmen to draft articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump, a historic step that signals the House is increasingly likely to vote to impeach Trump before the end of this year.

    “Sadly, but with confidence and humility, with allegiance to our founders, and a heart full of love for America, today I am asking our chairmen to proceed with articles of impeachment,” Pelosi said, standing in front of a row of American flags.

    Pelosi didn’t provide additional details, but Democrats have said they are considering multiple articles of impeachment against Trump including abuse of power, obstruction of justice and obstruction of Congress. The House Judiciary Committee is expected to draw up articles of impeachment as soon as next week.

    “His wrongdoing strikes at the very heart of our Constitution. Our democracy is what is at stake,” Pelosi said in a 10-minute nationally televised address just outside the speaker’s balcony.

    “The facts are uncontested,” she added. “The president abused his power for his own personal political benefit at the expense of our national security.”

    Shortly after Pelosi’s announcement, the Judiciary Committee announced a Monday hearing to present evidence obtained in the Intelligence Committee’s Ukraine investigation.

    Pelosi cast her decision as a heavy-hearted but necessary one to preserve American democracy in the face of a president who is seeking to corrupt the 2020 election. She repeatedly cited the vision of the Constitution’s framers who feared a president might try to assume the powers of a monarch and allow foreign influence to corrupt the American government.

    Pelosi took a similar tone when addressing her caucus in a closed-door meeting after her public announcement. She underscored the seriousness of the moment but didn’t provide further details on the timeline or scope of articles that will be drafted.

    Pelosi said waiting any longer for the courts to rule on Trump’s efforts to block key witnesses from testifying — which could take months — would make Democrats “accomplices to his obstruction,” according to sources in the room.

    And she made clear impeachment is their only recourse. “If we aren’t going to impeach this time we should amend the Constitution to remove impeachment,” Pelosi said, according to multiple attendees.

    Pelosi used her news conference Thursday to underscore the caucus’s split-screen mentality on impeachment and the rest of its domestic agenda, ticking off a string of legislative accomplishments.

    And just before she spoke to reporters, Pelosi announced that the House would vote on her signature drug pricing bill next week — a move that appeases many in her caucus, particularly battleground Democrats who fear Republicans will convince the public that they’re doing nothing but impeaching Trump.

    The news conference ended with a tense exchange as Pelosi was leaving, after a reporter in the front row shouted a question asking whether she hated the president.

    “As a Catholic, I resent you using the word hate in a sentence that addresses me,” Pelosi said, stunning reporters in the room who have long known her to be composed under pressure. She then aggressively rejected the notion — fueled by Republicans — that Democrats are impeaching Trump because of personal animosity.

    In an extraordinarily rare display of anger, Pelosi marched back to the lectern to answer the question for the full set of cameras: “Don’t mess with me when it comes to a word like that.”

    The California Democrat has long refused to put an end-date on Democrats’ investigation, cautioning she and her caucus would not prejudge the process before they were finished gathering evidence.

    But senior Democrats have said privately they hoped to finish the inquiry, likely with a House vote to impeach Trump, before the end of December.

    The six chairs of the committees investigating Trump, including Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler, are expected to huddle privately after Pelosi’s announcement.

    House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer also sought to impress upon members the solemness of the moment, particularly voting on articles of impeachment.

    “It’ll be a vote directed by our conscience,” the Maryland Democrat said, according to multiple Democrats in the room.

    Just ahead of Pelosi’s announcement, Trump delivered a defiant tweet.

    “If you are going to impeach me, do it now, fast,” Trump wrote, adding that he wants a “fair trial” in the Senate. “We will have Schiff, the Bidens, Pelosi and many more testify, and will reveal, for the first time, how corrupt our system really is.”

    Pelosi has tightly controlled every step of Democrats’ impeachment investigation since first launching the inquiry on Sept. 24 after a whistleblower complaint first came to light that Trump was pressuring Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate political rivals like former Vice President Joe Biden.

    In recent weeks, Pelosi and her top deputies have made a point to be more public-facing, with more high-profile interviews like on CBS’ “Face the Nation” as they attempt to sway the public. She’ll participate in a CNN town hall on Thursday night.

    Pelosi’s announcement comes one day after the House Judiciary Committee held its first impeachment hearing. The panel heard from four constitutional lawyers, three of whom — all Democratic witnesses — said Trump committed impeachable offenses.

    The committee also signaled that Democrats are strongly considering including allegations connected to special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe in articles of impeachment. Nadler said Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine along with blocking Democrats’ investigation illustrated a clear pattern of abuse of power and obstruction that began with Trump’s efforts to thwart Mueller’s probe.

    Pelosi declined to comment on whether she would support references to the Mueller report in articles of impeachment, deferring to her committee leaders, the House counsel and other members of her caucus.

    A final decision on articles has not been made. But Pelosi said each of the six House chairmen investigating Trump will be asked to make recommendations about articles of impeachment.

    “I don’t think it’s clear to anybody at this point. There are different ways of organizing the various patterns of misconduct,” Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) said. “But if you watched the hearings yesterday, you saw what the recurring themes were,” he added, referring to obstruction.

    “That’s going to be up to the [Judiciary] committee to decide, in consultation with leadership,” he said.

    The debate over how much Democrats should rely on Mueller’s findings in potential articles — if at all — has resurfaced this month as a tricky issue within the caucus. Multiple moderate Democrats have cautioned Pelosi and other leaders against relitigating the special counsel’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, which hardly budged public opinion on Trump. These lawmakers have urged a narrower scope focused on the Ukraine saga, which quickly unified the caucus.

    Other Democrats have argued that ignoring Trump’s misconduct and obstruction during the Mueller probe would be a neglection of congressional duties.

    The House Intelligence Committee, led by Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), collected hundreds of hours of depositions and public testimonies from 17 witnesses throughout October and November who detailed Trump and his allies’ maneuverings on Ukraine.

    The witnesses, all current or former senior administration officials, detailed an extensive campaign by Trump and his allies to leverage much-needed military aid and coveted White House meeting in an attempt to force Zelensky to open the desired investigations.

    House Democrats have broadly backed the impeachment inquiry. Just two moderates — Reps. Collin Peterson (D-Minn.) and Jeff Van Drew (D-N.J.) — remain opposed.

    Many in the caucus have refused to say publicly whether they believe there is enough evidence to consider articles, even after the Intelligence committee report came out Tuesday. But privately, the vast majority of Democrats assert that the case against Trump is clear and that the caucus is prepared to move ahead with the next step to draft articles and bring them to the floor.

    Pelosi huddled with her caucus on Wednesday for a special members-only meeting on impeachment, where she asked lawmakers whether they were prepared to proceed with the impeachment process. Several in the room responded “yes.”

    Kyle Cheney, Andrew Desiderio and Quint Forgey contributed to this report.

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    Former Secretary of State and U.S. Senator John Kerry endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden for president.

    Seriously?  Joe Biden is having a very hard time keeping it together lately.  The  Democrat nominee should at least be coherent.

     

     

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    Here’s something about CNN that will conveniently not be posted by its biggest fanboy

    https://www.westernjournal.com/fox-news-dominates-cnn-sinks-three-year-ratings-low-amid-impeachment-coverage/

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    The House Judiciary Committee released a report Saturday in which it argued that a president may be impeached for “illegitimate motives” even if his actions are “legally permissible.”
    The 52-page report, written by 20 members of the staff for the Democratic majority, attempts to provide a legal and constitutional basis for the Democrats’ ongoing effort to impeach the president.

    I recommend  “The Trial” (1937)   Franz Kafka

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    The House Judiciary Committee released a report Saturday in which it argued that a president may be impeached for “illegitimate motives” even if his actions are “legally permissible.”
    The 52-page report, written by 20 members of the staff for the Democratic majority, attempts to provide a legal and constitutional basis for the Democrats’ ongoing effort to impeach the president.

    I recommend “The Trial” (1937) Franz Kafka

    If it wasn’t published by CNN it’ll be ignored. Kafka who?

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    The DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz finally released his report on FISA abuses on Monday.

    The report revealed what we knew to be true all along — the FBI defrauded the FISA court and purposely omitted exculpatory information from the FISA judges in order to obtain FOUR FISA warrants on Trump campaign advisor Carter Page.
    Horowitz, however concluded that the FBI investigation into Trump was not politically motivated.  LOLOLOL

    US Attorney from Connecticut John Durham immediately released a statement following the release of the FISA report and disputed Horowitz’s findings and conclusions.
    “I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department. Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened,”
    Unlike Horowitz, Durham has real power to bring the coup plotters to justice, such as the power to indict and impanel a grand jury.

    US Attorney General Bill Barr also blasted the FBI on Monday in a statement
    “The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken,” Barr said, adding, “It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory.”

     

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    IMPEACHMENT 2020
    Democrats to unveil at least 2 articles of impeachment Tuesday morning
    They plan to charge Trump with abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

    by HEATHER CAYGLE, JOHN BRESNAHAN and ANDREW DESIDERIO
    12/09/2019 08:52 PM EST
    Updated: 12/09/2019 10:17 PM EST

    House Democrats plan to unveil at least two articles of impeachment Tuesday, charging President Donald Trump with abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, according to multiple lawmakers and aides.

    The Judiciary Committee plans to vote on the articles on Thursday, setting up a vote on the House floor next week to make Trump the third president in history to be impeached. The markup will be the last major step before the House votes to formally impeach Trump.

    Several Democrats said Monday that a potential obstruction of justice charge against Trump had not been ruled out, but it was unclear if there was enough support for such a charge within the Democratic Caucus.

    Democratic leaders plan to formally announce the articles at a press conference Tuesday morning. Judiciary Committee Democrats intend to meet ahead of the announcement and review the articles.

    The unveiling of the articles will be the culmination of a nearly three-month impeachment inquiry centering on Trump’s alleged efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political rivals — and the president’s subsequent efforts to block Democrats’ access to key witnesses and documents.

    The decision to move forward with specific impeachment charges is the most significant move yet for the year-old Democratic House majority, a legacy-defining moment for Speaker Nancy Pelosi that sets up a Senate trial for Trump in early 2020.

    Senior Democrats, including House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.), were mum as they exited a meeting in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office Monday night.

    “There will be some announcements tomorrow morning,” House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) said as he left the meeting.

    Nadler and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) are expected to lead the press conference, which is scheduled to begin at 8:45 a.m., according to multiple Democrats. The other committee chairs investigating Trump will also attend, but Engel told reporters that Pelosi is not expected to participate.

    Emerging from a Judiciary Committee meeting late Monday, Rep. David Cicilline (D-R.I.) said the panel’s Democrats plan to re-convene at 8 a.m. Tuesday morning ahead of the press conference. He said the articles of impeachment were still being finalized.

    “Our staff has been working on this for quite a period of time,” Cicilline said. “We’re going to work throughout the night.”

    Judiciary Committee aides huddled late into the evening and were prepared to hunker down for an all-nighter as they discussed the plan to unveil articles the next morning. A steady stream of lawmakers exiting the meeting indicated no final decisions had been made about which articles of impeachment would ultimately be included in the morning announcement.

    The closed-door strategizing followed a day-long hearing at which House impeachment investigators presented their case against Trump, alleging that the president violated his oath of office and should be impeached for trying to pressure Ukraine to help his reelection campaign.

    The nearly 10-hour hearing was more of a formality as Democrats finalize their charges against the president, and lawmakers on the panel spent much of the day sparring with other over partisan talking points.

    The president’s counsel refused to participate, leaving Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee to serve as Trump’s defense and attempt to undermine Democrats’ impeachment arguments.
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    House Democrats allege Trump abused his power by soliciting assistance from Ukraine to smear his political rival, former Vice President Joe Biden, in exchange for military aid and a coveted Oval Office meeting. Trump then attempted to block Democrats’ investigation into the scandal by ordering top aides not to testify and refusing to comply with subpoenas.

    Those allegations will form the basis of at least two charges against Trump — abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

    But some Democrats were still pushing for an obstruction of justice charge on Monday, which would likely encompass both the Ukraine scandal and Trump’s multiple alleged attempts to thwart Mueller’s probe.

    “We have identified two patterns of behavior in articles,” Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) said on Monday, pointing to Trump’s attempts to solicit foreign interference in U.S. elections and his efforts to block evidence.

    Asked about whether Mueller could appear in one of the articles, Raskin declined to say: “There are just a lot of ways of imagining this.”

    Pelosi has been careful not to telegraph her next steps in the impeachment inquiry, even to some of her closest allies. But many Democrats want to finish the House’s part of the impeachment inquiry before Congress leaves for the holiday recess in less than two weeks.

    Kyle Cheney, Darren Samuelsohn and Sarah Ferris contributed to this report.

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    UK Exit Polls Show Conservatives Cruising to Decisive Win

    Exit poll says Tory landslide

    Could we be on course for a historic Tory majority with Boris Johnson – and a humiliating Labour defeat?  The polls have just closed and the exit poll released suggesting the Conservatives could win 368 seats, with Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party on 191.

    Excellent.

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    Canadian Conservative Party Leader Andrew Scheer is resigning.

    His resignation comes as a direct result of new revelations that he was using Conservative Party money to pay for his children’s private schooling, according to Conservative sources who spoke with Global News.

    What a loser!

    We need an honest Canadian conservative with integrity as leader of the Conservative Party, like Donald Stewart Cherry.

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