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  • Paul Sheehan
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    Let’s continue the conversation here.

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    The new Conservative government in the UK will pass a law making it illegal for public bodies to engage with BDS, UK Special Envoy for post-Holocaust issues Eric Pickles said at the International Institute for Strategic Dialogue’s conference in Jerusalem on Sunday.

    “BDS is antisemitic and should be treated as such,” Pickles said, explaining that the new law will not allow public bodies to work with those who boycott, divest from or sanction Israel in any way.

    Pickles, who is also the chairman of Conservative Friends of Israel, said that Labour’s historic defeat in last week’s general election in the UK showed that the British people reject antisemitism.

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    Canada ‘made deal with devil’ with anti-Israel (UN) vote, says ex-U.S. envoy to UN
    Nikki Haley says by voting for a UN resolution for the Palestinian right to self-determination, drafted by North Korea, the North American state ‘traded its integrity for a seat on Security Council,’ which held ‘monthly Israel-bashing session’
    By Ynet News, December 8, 2019:
    Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations said Canada “made a deal with the devil” by revercing its years long policy on Palestine and voting in favour of its right to self determination.
    Speaking at the UN Watch Gala in New York City last week, Nikki Haley said Canada is “trading its integrity for a seat on the Security Council” by using the vote for a UN resolution to damage the State of Israel, according to a report in the Algemeiner Journal.
    “Two weeks ago, Canada surprised Israel’s friends by voting for a North Korean resolution that challenges the legitimacy of Israel,” Haley said, adding, “This is a resolution that Canadian governments for years have voted against.”

    I am sickened.  Why are liberals anti-Semitic?  (Rhetorical question)

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    The Democrats’ impeachment sham should not be rewarded with a trial.  

    Acquit without wasting any more time and money on this farce.

     

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    re: letter

    President Donald Trump slammed the House Democrats’ ongoing impeachment process as an “illegal, partisan attempted coup” in a scathing letter sent to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) on Tuesday afternoon.

    “By proceeding with your invalid impeachment, you are violating your oaths of office, you are breaking your allegiance to the Constitution, and you are declaring open war on American Democracy,” President Trump wrote in the six-page letter.

    “You are the ones interfering in America’s elections. You are the ones subverting America’s Democracy. You are the ones Obstructing Justice,” the president added. “You are the ones bringing pain and suffering to our Republic for your own selfish, personal, political, and partisan gain.”

    He went on to describe the effort to remove him from office as an “illegal, partisan attempted coup” based on anger stemming from his victory over Democrat White House nominee Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election.

    “You are not just after me, as President, you are after the entire Republican Party,” the president continued.

    “History will judge you harshly as you proceed with this impeachment charade,” he added. “I have no doubt the American people will hold you and the Democrats fully responsible in the upcoming 2020 election. They will not soon forgive your perversion of justice and abuse of power.”

    “illegal, partisan attempted coup”  or, ‘in aliis verbis’, treason.

     

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    Twas the might before the Impeachment vote and all through the House not a creature was stirring or had not a clue.

    Poor poor pitiful Pelosi was pushed to impeach.

    And now the Dims have painted themselves into a corner…this is a lose/lose situation and is exactly what they deserve.

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    This is truly exciting.  An Impeachment vote is a vote for treason.  Go for it

    I was a friend of, and learned from, a master statistical analyst, Richard Wallace, (he helped develop the Trends feature in SPSS),

    and the trend is Trump.

    Only the RNC could screw this up.

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    BREAKING NEWS
    House impeaches Trump in historic vote

    by KYLE CHENEY and ANDREW DESIDERIO
    12/18/2019 05:15 AM EST
    Updated: 12/18/2019 08:43 PM EST

    Update: The House voted to impeach President Donald Trump, branding him as only the third president in U.S. history to face such a harsh punishment from Congress.

    Trump faced charges of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress after a fast-paced inquiry into allegations he pressured Ukraine into investigating his political rivals.

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    The House is set to vote on Wednesday to impeach Donald Trump for abusing his power and obstructing congressional investigations, labeling the president a threat to national security and recommending his removal from office.

    With the votes, which are expected to fall largely along party lines, Trump will become just the third president to be impeached — after Andrew Johnson in 1868 and Bill Clinton in 1998. He likely will also become the first to campaign for reelection after facing the House’s ultimate punishment.

    It’s the culmination of Democrats’ yearlong string of Trump-focused investigations overseen by Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a skilled political tactician who remained reluctant to embrace impeachment until September, when allegations were unearthed about Trump’s conduct toward Ukraine.

    Even with the charges heading to the Senate for a trial likely to result in an acquittal, House Democrats have vowed to continue their impeachment probes — particularly those focused on former special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation and potential obstruction of justice by the president.

    Leading up to Wednesday’s vote, nearly every moderate and swing-district Democrat declared his or her support for the impeachment articles — an indication that Democratic leaders were successful in holding their caucus together amid fears that several members would peel off. Republicans, meanwhile, are poised to vote uniformly against impeachment after weeks of a feverish whip operation by GOP leaders who “kept a close pulse on the entire conference,” according to a Republican source.

    The formal debate on the House floor kicked off just after noon and was slated to last six hours; the final votes are expected to take place between 6:30 p.m. and 7:30 p.m. The day opened with two procedural votes forced by Republicans; one was a motion to adjourn for the day while another was a resolution condemning House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.). Both were voted down.

    Trump will be taking the stage at a rally in Michigan around the same time.

    “Can you believe that I will be impeached today by the Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats, AND I DID NOTHING WRONG! A terrible Thing,” Trump wrote on Twitter early Wednesday morning, echoing a blistering letter he sent Tuesday to Pelosi haranguing the impeachment process.

    Democratic leaders cited Trump’s lack of remorse — and, indeed, his alleged ongoing pursuit of a scheme to undermine the integrity of the 2020 presidential election — as evidence that he poses a continuing and unprecedented threat to U.S. national security while in office. That charge far exceeds the gravity of any previous presidential impeachment.

    “It is tragic that the president’s reckless actions make impeachment necessary,” Pelosi said on the floor of the House. “He gave us no choice.”

    The two articles of impeachment against Trump stem from his efforts to enlist Ukraine to announce investigations targeting former Vice President Joe Biden and other Democrats on discredited allegations. Trump made the request in a July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a summary of which the White House released in September, fueling the House’s impeachment investigation and prompting allegations that Trump was soliciting foreign help for his reelection.

    “This was tragically made necessary by the president’s misconduct, by the abuse of his office,” said Schiff, who led the impeachment inquiry.

    “I think there may very well be members who have regrets after this day when they’re asked in the future why they did nothing to stand up to this unethical president who is betraying our national security,” he added.

    Democrats also accuse Trump of dispatching his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani to pressure Ukrainian officials to launch the probes. They said Trump sought to further pressure Zelensky by ordering a freeze on $391 million in military aid meant for Ukraine and by refusing a White House visit for Zelensky intended to broadcast U.S. support for an ally at war with Russia.

    In directing the alleged scheme, Democrats said, Trump “betrayed” the country and violated his oath of office — a claim that forms the basis of the first article of impeachment: abuse of power. In a separate report issued earlier this week, the House Judiciary Committee went further, writing that Trump committed criminal bribery and wire fraud as part of a monthslong scheme to solicit foreign interference in a U.S. election.

    The two articles of impeachment were the product of weeks of agonizing debate inside the Democratic Caucus about which “high crimes and misdemeanors” to bring to the floor. A swath of the Democratic Caucus had hoped to include obstruction of justice as a third charge, based primarily on Mueller’s findings, but Pelosi and other House leaders viewed the Ukraine scandal as a simpler and more compelling narrative to explain to Americans.

    Lawmakers first learned of the Ukraine allegations when the White House intervened to block a whistleblower complaint from reaching the House Intelligence Committee in early September. Soon after, the committee launched an aggressive and fast-paced investigation that included depositions from 17 State Department, Pentagon and White House officials as well as a series of public hearings that unearthed a mountain of evidence supporting the allegations against Trump.

    While many Democrats have been eager to impeach Trump since his inauguration, the majority of House Democrats took their cues from Pelosi, who routinely and swiftly suppressed the energy for impeachment — spurred mostly by progressive activists — during the first months of the House Democratic majority.

    The expectation for a party-line vote underscores the deepening dysfunction that has gripped Washington in the Trump era — in addition to the unflinching loyalty that the president demands, and almost invariably receives, from congressional Republicans. Trump capitalized on his iron grip on the Republican Party’s base to demand that lawmakers describe his conduct as not just acceptable but “perfect.”

    Democrats, meanwhile, once contended that impeachment must be solidly bipartisan or else it would not be worth pursuing. In the face of a united Republican Party, though, Democrats have argued that their reversal on this pledge is a reflection of a GOP that refuses to bend despite overwhelming evidence of Trump’s misconduct.

    Republicans routinely accused Democrats of backing off this stance to satisfy their base’s most zealous impeachment supporters.

    When House Democrats impeached the president, Trump insisted his White House was winning a political war and maintaining business as usual.

    The White House wants to give the president’s staunchest House allies a public role in the upcoming Senate trial.

    Republicans have contended that Democrats’ pursuit of impeachment lowers the standard envisioned by the framers of the Constitution for deploying Congress’ weightiest weapon against a sitting president. They have harangued Democrats over what they say is an unfair process that did not provide Trump ample opportunities to defend himself. The president on Tuesday sent Pelosi a six-page letter recounting his complaints about the impeachment process, claiming “more due process was afforded to those accused in the Salem Witch Trials.”

    Trump’s GOP allies also argued that the evidence Democrats presented was thin and less convincing than it was in previous impeachment inquiries. They said the decision to pursue impeachment was based more on political considerations than facts and evidence.

    “The clock and the calendar are terrible masters,” said Georgia Rep. Doug Collins, the top Republican on the Judiciary Committee. “They do not care about facts. They do not care about time.”

    After the vote, the Senate will become the epicenter of the impeachment process, with a trial expected early next year to decide the fate of the Trump presidency — just the third time in U.S. history an elected president has been put on trial. Chief Justice John Roberts is slated to preside over the proceedings.

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has telegraphed his close partnership with Trump’s White House legal team, vowing that the trial will be conducted to their liking. That pledge drew sharp attacks from Democrats, who pleaded for McConnell to adopt a more impartial posture.

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    I am certain the Republicans in the Senate will be as impartial as the Democrats were in the House.

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    Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) appears to be considering an idea Democrats have floated for several days of holding back the articles of impeachment to exercise leverage over the Senate and the president.
    She declined formally to transmit the articles to the Senate on Wednesday evening after the House voted to impeach President Donald Trump.

    If Pelosi refuses to submit the articles of impeachment to the Senate, McConnell can convene the Senate anyway, summon the Chief Justice, and swear in the Senators as jurors. Democrats can boycott, but they can’t stop the trial.
    McConnell can then propose to dismiss the charges or even hold a vote to acquit the president.  Pelosi can hide the articles of impeachment in Adam Schiff’s basement forever, and it won’t make a bit of difference.
    Cool.

     

     

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    TRUMP NOT IMPEACHED!!!

    Democrat’s Impeachment Lawyer Says Trump Is Not Impeached If Pelosi Sits On Articles Of Impeachment

    The Harvard law professor who appeared as a Democratic witness before the judiciary committee impeachment hearing says impeachment hasn’t been concluded until the House delivers the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate.
    Noah Feldman indicated in an op-ed published by Bloomberg that the Articles of Impeachment, approved in a House vote Wednesday night, need to be delivered to the Senate in order to actually impeach President Donald Trump.

    The professor notes that just because the media reported Trump was impeached, doesn’t mean he really was. “As for the headlines we saw after the House vote saying, ‘TRUMP IMPEACHED.’ those are a media shorthand, not a technically correct legal statement.”  

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    On the “Rumble with Michael Moore,” podcast actor Robert De Niro spoke with left-wing documentary filmmaker Michael Moore about his thoughts on President Donald Trump.

    De Niro is another celebrity who assumes because he is an acclaimed actor, and is very wealthy, has a moral duty to express his prejudices.  I am so sick of this blowhard using his fame to defame easily one of the greatest presidents of all  (maybe number three behind Washington and Lincoln).

    Bobby De has aligned himself with

    Alysia Milano, Rosie O’Donnell, that jackass Conway guy, Colbert and all of the other deluded Democrats in the USA.  What a jackass
    or there may be mental issues here…sorry Bob, nailed it!

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    CNN analyst: ‘Massive movement towards’ Trump in new 2020 poll

    President Trump has made substantial gains in 2020 matchups with Democratic candidates, according to new polling from one of his least favorite outlets.
    “This is massive movement towards the president of the United States, at least in our poll at this particular point,” CNN political analyst Harry Enten said on Friday.
    While appearing on “New Day,” Enten detailed the differences between support for Democrats in October versus support shown in their December polling.
    The numbers showed former Vice President Joe Biden with just a five-point lead over Trump, compared to the 10-point lead he had in October. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., similarly saw his lead over Trump narrow by five points.

    In October, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., led Trump 52 percent to 44 percent but by December, she led him with just 47 percent over 46 percent of registered voters. Mayor Pete Buttigieg flipped from beating Trump with 50 percent of the vote to losing by one percentage point.

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    I wish everyone a Merry Christmas

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    There was this thing in the UK that occurred.

    You probably didn’t hear much about it.

    See, the snooty UK smart set (globalists) decided that the people were wrong when they voted for Brexit so it decided to obstruct the will of the people and, moreover, decided that the standard bearer for the ruling caste should be some wiggy commie weirdo (Corbyn).

    The normals poured out to vote and utterly humiliated their betters by electing, with a huge majority, the wacky outsider (Boris Johnson) who promised to stand up to the liberal elite and do what the people demanded.

     

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