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Picture: Killing Fields
Director: Roland Joffe
Actor: Sam Waterson
Actress: Judy Davis
Supporting Actor: Ralph Richardson
Supporting Actress: Maybe Page if she had the overdue narrative already. If not, Lahti was secondMarch 24, 2020 at 2:57 pm #1203393052
I’ve noticed that we haven’t done one of these, so I’m going to give you my thoughts and you guys can add yours.
Best Picture: The Killing Fields
Best Director: Roland Joffe
Best Actor: Sam Waterston
Best Actress: Jessica Lange
Best Supporting Actor: Adolph Caesar
Best Supporting Actress: Christine Lahti
I agree with all these except as said above Page probably would have rode an overdue narrative to a win. Lahti in Swing Shift probably would have suffered because the film was such a flop and had so much behind the scenes drama.
Davis was a surprise nominee so I don’t think she figured into stuff. Yes she was the only non-previous winner but she got some bad reviews with people feeling she was miscast (too sophisticated and worldly for the naive character.)March 24, 2020 at 3:55 pm #1203393090This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.March 24, 2020 at 4:14 pm #1203393118
I think Tom Hulce and Jessica Lange were the Lead runner-ups. I think Davis being the runner-up is a valid opinion. A Passage to India had the most nominations alongside Amadeus and managed to win 2. Amadeus swept almost every award only losing Cinematography, Editing and Actor, wich lost to itself so Judy Davis being the runner up that year is very plausible. She also won the Boston Film Critics Society. I know that isn’t much but 1984 was a huge mess when it comes to Best Actress. Peggy Ashcroft even won some critics groups in Lead. So…
I also wouldn’t use the fact that Davis was a surprise nominee as an argument simply because back then surprise nominees had a much easier path to a win than nowadays.March 24, 2020 at 4:56 pm #1203393150This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.March 24, 2020 at 7:44 pm #1203393244
You forget that Page’s film was also a big flop and hardly anyone saw it. She also didn’t hit any precursors which is a big burden. She got in because she was a veteran and besides, people probably didn’t realize she was overdue until the following year. Lahti, on the other hand, was a rising star that hit everything and was one of the biggest success stories in Hollywood as far as I’m concerned. When you think about it, Page might’ve even been in fourth due to everything going against her.
You might be right. Lahti was definitely a star making turn which would have been well deserved. I think at one point Goldie Hawn wanted Lahti’s role reduced since she feared she was stealing the movie. (which she did.)March 24, 2020 at 8:46 pm #1203393271
I doubt Tom Hulce was the runner-up because if the Academy was voting for Amadeus then they were voting for Abraham. Waterston was more likely due to the fact that people thought much more highly of his performance than Hulce’s which was regarded as frenetic and somewhat superficial. Also, if the voters were voting for The Killing Fields in that category they were voting for Sam Waterston.
I see it as a Killing Eve type of situation. Majority might prefer Abraham but Hulce also has a lot of support. Just like Jodie and Sandra, respectively. I know a lot of people who prefer Hulce to Abraham not to mention Hulce’s performance is extremely iconic. His laugh has became one of the most, if not THE MOST, memorable thing from the movie. I do think Sam Waterston had a lot of support so he definitely could’ve been the runner-up. But Tom was definitely in top3.March 24, 2020 at 9:00 pm #1203393279
Best Picture – A Passage to India
Best Director – David Lean
Best Actor – Sam Waterston
Best Actress – Judy Davis
Best Supporting Actor – Adolph Caesar
Best Supporting Actress – Christine LahtiMarch 25, 2020 at 9:57 am #1203393855
I highly doubt A Passage to India came in second because it was rather controversial at the time due to its racist portrayals of Indians. Not to mention that they probably didn’t want David Lean to win for a third time and it lacked the passionate support that Killing Fields had. And, yes, Judy Davis was indeed miscast.March 25, 2020 at 5:47 pm #1203394489
Places in the Heart is an underrated film now imo. It sort of got a bad rep with Sally’s you like me speech.
I saw it on the big screen a few years ago and was very impressed with it: Powerful depiction of the evils of the KKK, touching story of survival and even out right exciting during the tornado sequence.March 26, 2020 at 2:01 am #1203394809
I think either “Places in the Heart” or “The Killing Fields” came in second. “Places in the Heart” had 2 above-the-line wins: Lead Actress and Original Screenplay wins. “The Killing Fields” had 3 Oscar wins: Supporting Actor, Cinematography, and Editing. “A Passage to India” was likely fourth and “A Soldier’s Story” was clearly last due to zero wins and no Director nomination. This was a really good year for movies.March 26, 2020 at 3:31 am #1203394837
Picture: The Killing Fields
Actress: Jessica Lange, Country
Actor: Sam Waterston, The Killing Fields
Supporting Actress: Christine Lahti, Swing Shift
Supporting Actor: Pat Morita, The Karate Kid
Director: Roland Joffe, The Killing FieldsMarch 26, 2020 at 11:11 am #1203395366
Picture: The Killing Fields Actress: Jessica Lange, Country Actor: Sam Waterston, The Killing Fields Supporting Actress: Christine Lahti, Swing Shift Supporting Actor: Pat Morita, The Karate Kid Director: Roland Joffe, The Killing Fields
Pat Morita didn’t have a prayer as he was unknown and his film’s only nominee. Saying he came in second is absolutely ridiculous. Of the nominees, only Caesar stood a chance as his film was nominated for BP and he has a very showy role in it.(Not to mention he’s also absolutely incredible in it.) That said, no one was beating Ngor.
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