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  • Opium
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    Gaga’s wrong when she pushes a song like ‘Shallow’ and she’s wrong when she doesn’t push a song like ‘HMH’. People have to make up their minds.

    ‘Shallow’ wasn’t even pushed much as well, the song just happen to reasonate and being very liked by the GP thanks to the performance of the movie that was one of the biggest moment-scene of the movie, but it never had big pushes on playlist and radios, and she performed it only twice.


    borisy
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    really? Lol so how could it ever be eligible?


    Deemy
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    Not y’all being pressed over my factual comment. Seethe. 🤣🤣


    Opium
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    really? Lol so how could it ever be eligible?

    It has been pointed out by Variety that it’s the biggest issue for the song rather than the sample.


    NilsBecky13
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    That’s the same award that was presented to Billie and Finneas last year. Not the same situation for both songs but interesting to see

    Yeah Billie won last year but the category was introduced only last year and Billie winning (rightfully so) last year and now Selena winning feels like Interscope had something to do with it. It was a nice song tho, love her!


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    Anthagiox
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    This is… kind of misleading lol. The only publication (that I’m able to find) out of these that is predicting a win for LMU is Clayton Davis at Variety. The rest just have predictions, all of which seem to have Billie, Gaga, and Naatu Naatu listed.

    Speaking of Naatu Naatu, I know I’m late to the party, but if the Academy does actually take into account how the song is used in its prospective film, this should far and away be the frontrunner. None of the other contenders come close to this.

     


    BlueFox94
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    This is… kind of misleading lol. The only publication (that I’m able to find) out of these that is predicting a win for LMU is Clayton Davis at Variety. The rest just have predictions, all of which seem to have Billie, Gaga, and Naatu Naatu listed.

    Speaking of Naatu Naatu, I know I’m late to the party, but if the Academy does actually take into account how the song is used in its prospective film, this should far and away be the frontrunner. None of the other contenders come close to this.

    And if DVV Entertainment (the studio behind RRR) had been seriously considering how the various songs are used in the plot, then they would’ve at least submitted “Dosti”, arguably the film’s thesis, as well:

    Or, for that matter, Columbia (Sony) and Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile with “Take a Look at Us Now” instead of downer cue “Carried Away”:

    Help me manifest this Best Original Song category at the 95th Oscars!:
    (contenders as of end of November)

    "Dragon Commander" (Inu-oh)
    "Good Tonight" (The Bad Guys)
    "Hold My Hand" (Top Gun: Maverick)
    "Lucky Ducks" (The Bob's Burgers Movie)
    "Naatu Naatu" (RRR: Rise, Roar, Revolt)


    Bonehead
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    Here’s “Naatu Naatu” by itself. Just the song. No dance sequence.

    Still good, but not quite as interesting, right?


    Keepitcute
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    This is… kind of misleading lol. The only publication (that I’m able to find) out of these that is predicting a win for LMU is Clayton Davis at Variety. The rest just have predictions, all of which seem to have Billie, Gaga, and Naatu Naatu listed. Speaking of Naatu Naatu, I know I’m late to the party, but if the Academy does actually take into account how the song is used in its prospective film, this should far and away be the frontrunner. None of the other contenders come close to this.

    IndieWire and THR also predicted a win. The overall conversation in here about LMU has been interesting to read. Appears to be a lot of personal bias against it when regardless of what some of you may feel about the song it

    A) was well placed in the context of the film

    B) out of all contenders currently has the most Oscar buzz surrounding it

    At the very least a nomination seems to be on lock with it being Top 2 contender for the win. Of course let’s all wait and see how the rest of the award season pans out


    Anthagiox
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    Here’s “Naatu Naatu” by itself. Just the song. No dance sequence. Still good, but not quite as interesting, right?

    Sure, but the whole point of the category is to take into account how it’s used in the movie, no?

    IndieWire and THR also predicted a win. The overall conversation in here about LMU has been interesting to read. Appears to be a lot of personal bias against it when regardless of what some of you may feel about the song it A) was well placed in the context of the film B) out of all contenders currently has the most Oscar buzz surrounding it At the very least a nomination seems to be on lock with it being Top 2 contender for the win. Of course let’s all wait and see how the rest of the award season pans out

    I can’t find anything from Indiewire that isn’t older than October (before LMU was released). Maybe I’m not looking in the right place lol.

    And yeah, of course personal biases are at play here. The people predicting, rooting, and voting for these songs all have personal biases. With the predicting, people are placing emphasis on this being Rihanna’s “big comeback”, though historical precedent implies that doesn’t matter to voters. With the people rooting, it’s all about who’s favorite popstar is going to win. With the people voting, it’s all about “I saw that movie and liked it”. There doesn’t seem to be a full-on consensus this time around and that’s what makes this category more interesting to follow than in previous years. I still believe this is going to come down to whichever movie was perceived better by voters no matter how the song was used in the film. Naatu Naatu for example is most likely not going to win because I can’t imagine most of the voters saw the movie. The two biggest contenders are obviously Rihanna and Gaga with their respective songs both coming from huge blockbuster and being used in similar ways. Gaga has the “veteran” advantage while Rihanna has the “new” advantage. Will Gaga win because she’s known and respected by the Academy, or will Rihanna win because the Academy wants new blood and it’s too early to award Gaga again (same reason I don’t think Billie is taking it). I’m curious to see which advantage comes out on top.


    BlueFox94
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    Sure, but the whole point of the category is to take into account how it’s used in the movie, no?

    ***laughs in “Dosti” (RRR: Rise, Roar, Revolt) and “Take a Look at Us Now” (Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile)***

    Help me manifest this Best Original Song category at the 95th Oscars!:
    (contenders as of end of November)

    "Dragon Commander" (Inu-oh)
    "Good Tonight" (The Bad Guys)
    "Hold My Hand" (Top Gun: Maverick)
    "Lucky Ducks" (The Bob's Burgers Movie)
    "Naatu Naatu" (RRR: Rise, Roar, Revolt)


    xohours
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    Billie isn’t taking it b/c she’s in a no1curr movie compared to Maverick & WF in which voters saw both or at least one or the other compared to Turning Red


    Bonehead
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    Sure, but the whole point of the category is to take into account how it’s used in the movie, no?

    Sure, but my issue is that Variance Films clearly just picked the song that has the most TikTok and YouTube views instead of the song that ties the film together.

    “Dosti” means friendship. RRR is about the friendship beteween Raju and Bheem. The Dosti refrain is repeated throughout the film. I believe it’s the song that’s ‘used’ most effectively in the film.

    “Naatu naatu” just means “dance dance”. The choreography is doing more of the heavy-lifting than the actual song itself.

    It’d be like if “Trip a Little Light Fantastic” was selected over “The Place Where Lost Things Go”, “Kyle’s Mom’s a B****” over “Blame Canada”, or yes “We Don’t Talk About Bruno” over “Dos Oruguitas”

    Considering how the Academy tends to favor more thematically impactful songs over popular songs (“Can You Feel the Love Tonight” over “Hakuna Matata” for instance), I think Variance made the wrong choice.

    … and I’m clearly way too upset about it. lol.


    BlueFox94
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    Sure, but my issue is that Variance Films clearly just picked the song that has the most TikTok and YouTube views instead of the song that ties the film together.

    “Dosti” means friendship. RRR is about the friendship beteween Raju and Bheem. The Dosti refrain is repeated throughout the film. I believe it’s the song that’s ‘used’ most effectively in the film.

    “Naatu naatu” just means “dance dance”. The choreography is doing more of the heavy-lifting than the actual song itself.

    It’d be like if “Trip a Little Light Fantastic” was selected over “The Place Where Lost Things Go”, “Kyle’s Mom’s a B****” over “Blame Canada”, or yes “We Don’t Talk About Bruno” over “Dos Oruguitas”

    Considering how the Academy tends to favor more thematically impactful songs over popular songs (“Can You Feel the Love Tonight” over “Hakuna Matata” for instance), I think Variance made the wrong choice.

    … and I’m clearly way too upset about it. lol.

    Same here, although in the case of Encanto, it was submitting only the typical BOS song that’s “thematically important” (even though it’s only performed once in the film, if I recall), and then watching the un-submitted, fun “character assassination” song rampaging commercially after the submission deadline.

    And while both those Lion King songs (and “Circle of Life”) made the BOS 1994 category and avoided vote-splitting (as did The Little Mermaid, Beauty & the Beast, and Aladdin), the problem today is that too many studios are following Disney’s fearful example after Disney got burned with 3 Enchanted songs making BOS 2007 and ultimately (but deservedly) losing to “Falling Slowly” (Once).

    Help me manifest this Best Original Song category at the 95th Oscars!:
    (contenders as of end of November)

    "Dragon Commander" (Inu-oh)
    "Good Tonight" (The Bad Guys)
    "Hold My Hand" (Top Gun: Maverick)
    "Lucky Ducks" (The Bob's Burgers Movie)
    "Naatu Naatu" (RRR: Rise, Roar, Revolt)

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