2023 Original Song Contenders (Part 2)

[Anthagiox Joined: Sep 28th, 2021 Topics: 0 Posts: 1547 View Predictions]

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Bonehead wrote:

Sure, but my issue is that Variance Films clearly just picked the song that has the most TikTok and YouTube views instead of the song that ties the film together. “Dosti” means friendship. RRR is about the friendship beteween Raju and Bheem. The Dosti refrain is repeated throughout the film. I believe it’s the song that’s ‘used’ most effectively in the film. “Naatu naatu” just means “dance dance”. The choreography is doing more of the heavy-lifting than the actual song itself. It’d be like if “Trip a Little Light Fantastic” was selected over “The Place Where Lost Things Go”, “Kyle’s Mom’s a B****” over “Blame Canada”, or yes “We Don’t Talk About Bruno” over “Dos Oruguitas” Considering how the Academy tends to favor more thematically impactful songs over popular songs (“Can You Feel the Love Tonight” over “Hakuna Matata” for instance), I think Variance made the wrong choice. … and I’m clearly way too upset about it. lol.

Fair enough. I’m talking more about the voters than the studios themselves. Studios, for whatever reason, often drop the ball on this kind of stuff because, I assume, they’re too far removed from what the public actually connects with.

I haven’t seen RRR, I was just enthralled by that video because it was so much fun. Not sure how it truly connects in the film.

[Opium Joined: Aug 4th, 2021 Topics: 0 Posts: 1321 View Predictions]

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Bonehead wrote:

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Here’s “Naatu Naatu” by itself. Just the song. No dance sequence. Still good, but not quite as interesting, right?

I agree, the choreography and dance sequence eats the song, it has a good rythm but I can’t judge the lyrics which should be the main concern of this category.

[BlueFox94 Joined: Sep 6th, 2011 Topics: 0 Posts: 136 View Predictions]

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Opium wrote:

I agree, the choreography and dance sequence eats the song, it has a good rythm but I can’t judge the lyrics which should be the main concern of this category.

Here’s a link for the English translation of “Naatu Naatu”: https://www.lyricstranslation.in/2021/11/naatu-naatu-lyrics-english-translation.html

And for comparison, here’s the same for “Dosti” (sans second verse because it’s not in the music video): https://www.lyricstranslation.in/2021/07/dosti-lyrics-in-english-translation-telugu.html

Help me manifest this Best Original Song category at the 95th Oscars!:
(contenders as of end of November)
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"Dragon Commander" (Inu-oh)
"Good Tonight" (The Bad Guys)
"Hold My Hand" (Top Gun: Maverick)
"Lucky Ducks" (The Bob's Burgers Movie)
"Naatu Naatu" (RRR: Rise, Roar, Revolt)

[ScreamingFirehawk22 Joined: Apr 28th, 2022 Topics: 28 Posts: 320 View Predictions]

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My 2 microns in a world that is far from ideal:

Nobody Like U, Billie Eilish/Phinneas, Turning Red
Naatu Naatu, Rahul Sipligunj and Kaala Bhairava, RRR (or Dosti, RRR)
Hold My Hand, Lady Gaga, Top Gun: Maverick
Lift Me Up, Rihanna, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
Stand Up, Jazmine Sullivan featuring D’Mile, Till
Carolina, Taylor Swift, Where the Crawdads Sing

[jim Joined: Dec 2nd, 2018 Topics: 0 Posts: 66 View Predictions]

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This award is Gaga’s to lose.

A quick commentary on some of the songs before I cut to the chase: “Nobody Like U” & “Naatu Naatu” have similar chances in my opinion. “Stand Up” by Jazmine Sullivan seems like a surefire nominee. I think “Vegas” will be deemed ineligible but it definitely deserves a nomination in my opinion.

I’m obviously wishing “Carolina” somehow makes it in since it’s poetic and decent melodically and also because she won’t stop jumping on these poor films until she gets a goddamn Oscar.

As for the big 2… I adore both of these ladies. I’ve never been a fan of “Hold My Hand” which is surprising to me cause I’m obsessed with the A Star Is Born soundtrack (and especially the underappreciated “Before I Cry”, which sort of sounds like HMH to me). So I thought that there would be stronger songs by this time of year. Spoiler: there are not.

I had the highest expectations for “Lift Me Up” but I simply can’t see it doing anything. I might make a fool of myself come March but I believe Gaga is the strongest contender and also the film was a critical and commercial behemoth.

[Anthagiox Joined: Sep 28th, 2021 Topics: 0 Posts: 1547 View Predictions]

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jim wrote:

This award is Gaga’s to lose. A quick commentary on some of the songs before I cut to the chase: “Nobody Like U” & “Naatu Naatu” have similar chances in my opinion. “Stand Up” by Jazmine Sullivan seems like a surefire nominee. I think “Vegas” will be deemed ineligible but it definitely deserves a nomination in my opinion. I’m obviously wishing “Carolina” somehow makes it in since it’s poetic and decent melodically and also because she won’t stop jumping on these poor films until she gets a goddamn Oscar. As for the big 2… I adore both of these ladies. I’ve never been a fan of “Hold My Hand” which is surprising to me cause I’m obsessed with the A Star Is Born soundtrack (and especially the underappreciated “Before I Cry”, which sort of sounds like HMH to me). So I thought that there would be stronger songs by this time of year. Spoiler: there are not. I had the highest expectations for “Lift Me Up” but I simply can’t see it doing anything. I might make a fool of myself come March but I believe Gaga is the strongest contender and also the film was a critical and commercial behemoth.

Before I Cry stans, rise up and let the truth be known.

[Cabiria Joined: Oct 21st, 2017 Topics: 2 Posts: 1480 View Predictions]

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Wow just heard the HMMA-winning song from GDT’s Pinocchio, “Ciao Papa“, and it is so beautiful. Considering the film is gonna sweep the animated feature category, the song has strong chances to get in. Remember: Ususally, 4 or all nominees would show up on HMMA nomination list every year.

So right now I’m having:
1. Hold My Hand /TGM (lock)
2. Lift Me Up /WF (lock)
3. Ciao Papa /GDT’s Pinocchio

Others contenders:
4. Keep Rising /The Woman King (Not sure if this is eligible)
5. Stand Up /Till (Pros: message song from a BP-contending film ; Cons: the song sounds ordinary and forgettable)
6. Applause /Tell it Like a Woman (Pros: Diane Warren; Cons: Sounds basic and too pop)
7. The Songchord /Avatar (not yet released)
8. Nobody Like U /Turning Red (Pros: film is doing really well ; Cons: sounds too pop…the “Just Look Up” situation…)
9. Time /Amsterdam (Pros: song itself is brilliant ; Cons: film is a disaster)

2023:
"TAR", "Banshees","Batman"

[Bonehead Joined: Jan 20th, 2021 Topics: 0 Posts: 1660 View Predictions]

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Cabiria wrote:

Wow just heard the HMMA-winning song from GDT’s Pinocchio, “Ciao Papa”, and it is so beautiful. Considering the film is gonna sweep the animated feature category, the song has strong chances to get in.

I’d be shocked if “Ciao Papa” missed.

Academy favorites Alexandre Desplat and Guillermo del Toro are both credited as songwriters and we frequently get songs from Animated Features in this category.

Plus, as you mentioned, it’s a beautiful song.

[Tweetygirly Joined: Dec 29th, 2021 Topics: 0 Posts: 118 View Predictions]

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“Before i cry” is so underrated

[Butz Joined: Oct 15th, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 1489 View Predictions]

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Finally I see someone talk positively about Ciao Papa. I’ve only read negative things about it so far and felt like I wasn’t getting something. Beautiful song, also ties into the movie thematically. Should be a surefire nomination in a perfect world. As of now I don’t have it in.

For Your Consideration:
The Banshees of Inisherin in ALL categories, including:
- Best Picture
- Best Director
- Best Actor (Colin Farrell)
- Best Supporting Actor (Brendan Gleeson)
- Best Supporting Actor (Barry Keoghan)
- Best Supporting Actress (Kerry Condon)
- Best Supporting Actress (Sheila Flitton)
- Best Original Screenplay

Letterboxd: Ray_In_Bruges

[Freeman_DC3 Joined: Nov 4th, 2022 Topics: 0 Posts: 83 View Predictions]

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Hold my hand is a good record. It’s just that…A Star Is Born soundtrack is top tier so Hold My Hand is a bit of a let down compared to Shallows, ARUTW and INLA.

[Anthagiox Joined: Sep 28th, 2021 Topics: 0 Posts: 1547 View Predictions]

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Not sure it’s fair to compare HMH to anything on ASIB. HMH was a one-off song for a movie she had no interaction with or part in, whereas ASIB was treated as an entire project for her.

[Freeman_DC3 Joined: Nov 4th, 2022 Topics: 0 Posts: 83 View Predictions]

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Anthagiox wrote:

Not sure it’s fair to compare HMH to anything on ASIB. HMH was a one-off song for a movie she had no interaction with or part in, whereas ASIB was treated as an entire project for her.

Fair enough

[Opium Joined: Aug 4th, 2021 Topics: 0 Posts: 1321 View Predictions]

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Freeman_DC3 wrote:

Hold my hand is a good record. It’s just that…A Star Is Born soundtrack is top tier so Hold My Hand is a bit of a let down compared to Shallows, ARUTW and INLA.

True, ASIB songs are just on another level, but they had a key role in the movie, whereas HMH is just an end credit song, it did what it had to do for a movie like Top Gun.

[Bonehead Joined: Jan 20th, 2021 Topics: 0 Posts: 1660 View Predictions]

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Well, “Naatu Naatu” just got a decent bump today…