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  • Actormogul
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    Yeoh is going to SAG


    Zuranthium
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    I cannot believe people are bringing up critics scores to point how Andrea is stronger than Deadwyler. Andrea got the nomination based on her peers not because of her supposed movie strength.

    Andrea got the nomination based on her PERFORMANCE, which impressed people to the point that they went out of their way to campaign for her.

    Her film being higher rated on metacritic is an example that shows this was not some simple occurrence of a celebrity rounding up their friends to vote for them. There was true passion for what she did and the movie for some people was a “hidden gem” they were moved by, a movie that was not getting any public recognition, as opposed to Till which was clearly campaigned.

    If critics had actually given To Leslie an equal amount of viewership as they did Till, and if there was a strong campaign existing for To Leslie from the beginning, then it’s likely Andrea would have received more nominations throughout the season than Danielle. As it stands she already got voted as being better at both the Chicago film critics and ISA.

    “Riseborough’s impeccable performance cannot be overstated. Her passion shines consistently whether Leslie has hit her lowest low or is riding her highest high. All of this contributes to the film’s poetic ending, which is sure to leave you teary-eyed and reinvigorated with a new lease on life.”

    Notices like that are absolutely something that gets awards – if people watch the movie and if people feel like it’s the right time to recognize a particular actor. Andrea’s performance, like many other great ones, had no chance of a nomination normally, because the lack of a studio campaign. It’s wonderful people took it upon themselves to support something they believed in, and to see a tiny movie bypass the studio awards season machinery to land a DESERVED nomination.


    laslo
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    Lol, you’re right I’m devastated about Margot, who’ll more than likely be back in the conversation in the near future. I see you love inserting yourself into things that have nothing to do with you. And that “troll” was simply passionate about their pick. I told them to stick with it despite the naysayers and ridiculing on this board. Group bullying is so lame. In fact, it made me keep Ana in my predictions, too. So that was one I, we, got right!

    Insert me into what? You said things about a person that I didn’t agree with and I just said my opinion defending them. I didn’t insult you at all but you told me to stay out of it. The facts are that predicting Margot Robbie all season is very different from predicting TPOTD and that Norma Jean is a troll. We don’t need to keep arguing because it won’t lead to anything.


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    Andrea got the nomination based on her PERFORMANCE, which impressed people to the point that they went out of their way to campaign for her.

    Her film being higher rated on metacritic is an example that shows this was not some simple occurrence of a celebrity rounding up their friends to vote for them. There was true passion for what she did and the movie for some people was a “hidden gem” they were moved by, a movie that was not getting any public recognition, as opposed to Till which was clearly campaigned.

    If critics had actually given To Leslie an equal amount of viewership as they did Till, and if there was a strong campaign existing for To Leslie from the beginning, then it’s likely Andrea would have received more nominations throughout the season than Danielle. As it stands she already got voted as being better at both the Chicago film critics and ISA.

    “Riseborough’s impeccable performance cannot be overstated. Her passion shines consistently whether Leslie has hit her lowest low or is riding her highest high. All of this contributes to the film’s poetic ending, which is sure to leave you teary-eyed and reinvigorated with a new lease on life.”

    Notices like that are absolutely something that gets awards – if people watch the movie and if people feel like it’s the right time to recognize a particular actor. Andrea’s performance, like many other great ones, had no chance of a nomination normally, because the lack of a studio campaign. It’s wonderful people took it upon themselves to support something they believed in, and to see a tiny bypass the studio awards season machinery to land a DESERVED nomination.

    This isn’t new though. People are acting like this type of campaign is new. It isn’t, it’s just the first time that it actually worked. We are going to see more of this in the future.


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    Andrea got the nomination based on her PERFORMANCE, which impressed people to the point that they went out of their way to campaign for her. Her film being higher rated on metacritic is an example that shows this was not some simple occurrence of a celebrity rounding up their friends to vote for them.  

    Andrea had the performance, but having connections also helped her. Both things can be true. Also again you’re bringing up Metacritic for ACTING nominations when the acting branch disregards critics reviews when it comes to their nominations. Kidman and Chastain were literally nominated last year. I highly doubt To Leslie’s critics reviews played any marginal impact in Andrea’s nomination.

    Michelle (Yeoh, Williams) Oscar campaign manager.

    FYC:
    Best Picture: Banshees of Inisherin, Everything Everywhere All At Once, Decision to Leave
    Best Director: Park Chan-Wook Todd Field
    Best Original Screenplay: Banshees of Inisherin, Everything Everywhere All At Once
    Best Actor: Colin Farrell
    Best Actress: Michelle Yeoh, Cate Blanchett, Tang Wei
    Best Supporting Actor: Brendan Gleeson, Ke Huy Quan
    Best Supporting Actress: Kerry Condon, Nina Hoss


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    Insert me into what? You said things about a person that I didn’t agree with and I just said my opinion defending them. I didn’t insult you at all but you told me to stay out of it. The facts are that predicting Margot Robbie all season is very different from predicting TPOTD and that Norma Jean is a troll. We don’t need to keep arguing because it won’t lead to anything.

    You DID insert yourself into an argument that had nothing to do with you. Trying to call me bringing up TOTD, which was just last year, trash. You call it an opinion. I call it an insult. I said what I said. It wasn’t the same. Not even close. So stop responding to me.


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    We all know it’s rarely about the performances though, the people pushing Andrea know it, the voters know it, we users on here know it so let’s all just know it together. The thing that leaves a sour taste is this all came out of nowhere. We’ve never really seen actresses campaign for someone to be nominated, and someone posting the math and how that could be accomplished.
    I don’t blame Andrea at all, but to say stuff that some of these actors have posted that it’s about “the work” and stop the “horse race” etc but give into it when it works for them.
    And again I understand the frustration and anger that this category was about to make history with three nonwhite actresses getting in and the optics of rallying around another white actress when none of them have ever done it for a small film led by a women of color is kind of telling. There are many examples we can pull from over the years that have gone ignored and could have used a social media campaign like this.

    Going back to it should be about the performance, the Oscar’s most of the time truthfully have always been a popularity contest. Are there outliers? Yes. But I don’t believe most who vote, vote based off performance anyways they vote for the actor/actress themself.


    babypook
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    We all know it’s rarely about the performances though, the people pushing Andrea know it, the voters know it, we users on here know it so let’s all just know it together. The thing that leaves a sour taste is this all came out of nowhere. We’ve never really seen actresses campaign for someone to be nominated, and someone posting the math and how that could be accomplished.
    I don’t blame Andrea at all, but to say stuff that some of these actors have posted that it’s about “the work” and stop the “horse race” etc but give into it when it works for them.
    And again I understand the frustration and anger that this category was about to make history with three nonwhite actresses getting in and the optics of rallying around another white actress when none of them have ever done it for a small film led by a women of color is kind of telling. There are many examples we can pull from over the years that have gone ignored and could have used a social media campaign like this.

    Going back to it should be about the performance, the Oscar’s most of the time truthfully have always been a popularity contest. Are there outliers? Yes. But I don’t believe most who vote, vote based off performance anyways they vote for the actor/actress themself.

    This. And it isn’t as if what went on with riseborough hasn’t been going on since the beginning, although more covertly pre Twitter.

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    babypook
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    You DID insert yourself into an argument that had nothing to do with you. Trying to call me bringing up TOTD, which was just last year, trash. You call it an opinion. I call it an insult. I said what I said. It wasn’t the same. Not even close. So stop responding to me.

    I’m usually ready to be attacked sideways by someone. It happens. Like, an hour ago. Lol!

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