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I completely understand this but I do think things are changing. Perhaps not as quickly as we would want them or not as quickly to correct some injustices, but the things are changing. This category is sadly the last frontier, but I refuse to believe that POC leading ladies will be ignored in the future. I do hope some lessons will be learned from this year… Perhaps I am a foolish optimist, but IDK… I choose to believe status quo will not live long. That’s all.
I like your positivity but I just can’t muster any hope for the best actress category anymore. There were so many choices this year and they still only nominated one Asian woman, a white Latina (which yay but still white) and 3 other white ladies. Obviously I’m not trying to downplay their talent. They are all good actresses but it’s depressing that even when there are choices they don’t go for them. Only one token poc allowed. Anyway I hope your positivity is rewarded but I don’t see another woman of color or black woman winning in the next ten years.
I have a question for everyone. After all of this, do people still really believe that Viola Davis could have been campaigned for lead actress and beat Emma Stone the year that she won her supporting actress Oscar? I never believed that but some still do.
Some of these other white actresses rallying around Andrea are showing their asses.
There was nothing “grassroots” around this campaign. It was privilege at its finest.
The Academy better do the correct thing and revoke this nomination!
As for this “singular” performance I keep hearing described, it’s one note, over hyped and overrated.
Just addressing her perf, it wasn’t hyped at all, let alone rated or over rated. As for her perf being one note I’d say it was exhausting. Despite her character bringing her situation onto herself she still manages to evoke pathos. At least for me, part of the beauty of her characterization.
The Sunne in Splendour.
I prefer my roses whiteI think Regina King could start up some buzz for Best Actress. Four Emmy wins in (where she aged out some Oscar favorites) and she was able win an Oscar despite SAG and BAFTA passing over her says a lot.
I have a question for everyone. After all of this, do people still really believe that Viola Davis could have been campaigned for lead actress and beat Emma Stone the year that she won her supporting actress Oscar? I never believed that but some still do.
On some days I think she might have. Remember, both were in Best Picture nominees that also had Best Screenplay and Best Actor nominations, and at the time, after Doubt and The Help, there was a real sense that Viola was overdue. Add in the facts that much of Hollywood was appalled by Trump in 2017 and was looking for ways to ease their liberal guilt without actually doing anything substantive, and that Viola had won the Best Actress Tony on Broadway in 2010 over 4 white actresses for that same role, and a victory for her at the Oscars in the Best Actress category seems possible. However, on most days, I think that if Viola didn’t replace Ruth Negga as the token POC Best Actress nominee in the 2017 Best Actress Academy Award line-up, she would have split votes with Negga
and both would have lost to Stone.for better or worse, this is probably the most attention andrea’s ever gotten from the gp in her lifetime.
To land a Best Actress nomination, any POC actor will first need to get through nomination round which is decided by the actors branch. The actors branch is 88% white.
To win Best Actress, any POC actor will need to garner the most votes out of all branches, which is 81% white.
To land a Best Actress nomination, any POC actor will first need to get through nomination round which is decided by the actors branch. The actors branch is 88% white. To win Best Actress, any POC actor will need to garner the most votes out of all branches, which is 81% white.
Also true for other categories. I know people are passionate about Best Actress but the actual votership is identfical to other categories.
There was nothing “grassroots” around this campaign.
It’s the definition of a grassroots campaign.
This is AMPAS, the ‘grassroots’ are generally very well-off individuals.
Why is that on Andrea and not De Armas or Williams or the Academy who had FIVE nominee choices but left them out?
this is because de Armas and Williams already had support all season long, Riseborough had a twelfth hour campaign. She was the number 5 slot, not de Armas or Williams. It’s fair to say that Deadwyler or Davis would have gotten nominated if the Riseborough campaign had not happened. Either way, no matter what spot Riseborough came in at it would’ve pushed Deadwyler or Davis out. SO the argument against de Armas or Williams is completely pointless when, in isolation, there is no arguing that had Andrea’s campaign not occurred Deadwyler or Davis would have almost surely made it into the final lineup considering significant industry support at both SAG and BAFTA.
and yeah its awesome and all that she has her colleagues, peers, and friends support her, but it’s not unwarranted to be suspicious when these friends were not as vocal until the voting period actually opened. If they were SO passionate about her performance (which is very good and is deserving of a spot, just not over Deadwyler), they would have been advocating for her nomination when it premiered at SXSW in MARCH of 2022 and again when it released in theaters in OCTOBER of 2022. The movie came out almost a year ago and 90% of people didn’t know what it was until 3 weeks before Oscar noms. and using the campaign budget as an excuse is meaningless if they are supposed to be her friends/supporters. You cant use both arguments of friends and small campaign budget at the same time. If she had all these friends, they should’ve been supporting her all year long, they didn’t HAVE to wait until the last possible moment.
Letterboxd: Brayfers
!EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE!
- SEVEN OSCARS
- BEST PICTURE
- Michelle Yeoh, Best Actress
- Ke Huy Quan, Best Supporting Actor
- Jamie Lee Curtis, Best Supporting Actress
- Daniel Kwan & Daniel Scheinert, Best Director & Best Original Screenplay
- Paul Rogers, Best Film EditingFYC (TV):
- Abbott Elementary
- House of the Dragon
- The White Lotus
- The Last of Us
This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.just got back from THE FABELMAS! It was wonderful and my favorite film of the year. Michelle Williams is terrific and it’s an easy female lead. She is the protagonist and has good amount of screen time. Judd has the impactful short scene like Beatrice Straight in Network. I vote for it for Picture and Director.
THR’s executive editor of awards notes that Riseborough’s campaign follows in a long tradition of unabashed solicitation of votes that have often been, as in her case, the result of a financially uneven playing field.
This is a pretty comprehensive comparison of where the whole situation sits historically. Worth a read.
just out of curiosity, for sag wins + oscar losses, screentime per screentimecentral:
wife 62%
doubt just below 50%
chicago 49%
nell 47%
away from her 44%
the help 32%
ma rainey 28%
american beauty 23%
Of course, The Wife was majorly dented by being a solo nominee vs. a bp/bd/screenplay nominee.
If Danielle Deadwyler was nominated last year, would she have won?
If Till had been distributed by Searchlight and The Eyes of Tammy Faye had been distributed by United Artists, I think Deadwyler might well have won, but with Till being distributed by UA and Tammy Faye by Searchlight, I think Chastain probably would still have prevailed.
Please note that I think it’s worth remembering that Chastain is popular among many of her peers, including POC peers, because she walked the walk and insisted that Octavia Spencer receive the same salary she did when The Help was being made. See https://youtu.be/4qYLBKR4Qj0
Why is that on Andrea and not De Armas or Williams or the Academy who had FIVE nominee choices but left them out?
Frankly, I always saw Viola getting snubbed for that role. Not Oscar friendly at all.
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