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  • Chloe Sevigny stan <3
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    You cant argue that Williams or de Armas “stole” a spot when they already had stake in the race.

    I’m not saying that, simply suggesting that they might have received less votes than Riseborough. I reject that whole type of thinking because it’s illogical and goes nowhere.


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    I’m not saying that, simply suggesting that they might have received less votes than Riseborough. I reject that whole type of thinking because it’s illogical and goes nowhere.

    so how does them receiving less votes than Riseborough in the nominations phase change the concept that Deadwyler/Davis were pushed out as a result of Andrea’s nom/campaign?

    Letterboxd: Brayfers

    !EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE!
    - SEVEN OSCARS
    - BEST PICTURE
    - Michelle Yeoh, Best Actress
    - Ke Huy Quan, Best Supporting Actor
    - Jamie Lee Curtis, Best Supporting Actress
    - Daniel Kwan & Daniel Scheinert, Best Director & Best Original Screenplay
    - Paul Rogers, Best Film Editing

    FYC (TV):
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    - House of the Dragon
    - The White Lotus
    - The Last of Us


    Babylonian
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    Andrea wasn’t deserving

    FYC:

    Everything Everywhere All At Once in every eligible category

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    Chloe Sevigny stan <3
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    so how does them receiving less votes than Riseborough in the nominations phase change the concept that Deadwyler/Davis were pushed out as a result of Andrea’s nom/campaign?

    So should she have never campaigned out of respect for them??


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    So should she have never campaigned out of respect for them??

    She had every right to campaign, not arguing against that, it’s the simple statement that her nomination pushed out more deserving (Deadwyler) black women and just as deserving (Davis) black women that has y’all pressed.

    Letterboxd: Brayfers

    !EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE!
    - SEVEN OSCARS
    - BEST PICTURE
    - Michelle Yeoh, Best Actress
    - Ke Huy Quan, Best Supporting Actor
    - Jamie Lee Curtis, Best Supporting Actress
    - Daniel Kwan & Daniel Scheinert, Best Director & Best Original Screenplay
    - Paul Rogers, Best Film Editing

    FYC (TV):
    - Abbott Elementary
    - House of the Dragon
    - The White Lotus
    - The Last of Us


    mafro987
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    So should she have never campaigned out of respect for them??

    For the last time, Andrea as an individual isn’t the problem 💀 she is allowed to campaign.

    FYC: Danielle Deadwyler, Best Actress in a Leading Role


    Chloe Sevigny stan <3
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    She had every right to campaign, not arguing against that, it’s the simple statement that her nomination pushed out more deserving (Deadwyler) black women and just as deserving (Davis) black women that has y’all pressed.

    You’re the one pressed about it. Riseborough was excellent so the comparisons just seem nasty, especially since they are directed solely towards her.


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    For the last time, Andrea as an individual isn’t the problem 💀 she is allowed to campaign.

    Omg look through previous threads of people complaining about her campaigning. The revisionist history…


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    You’re the one pressed about it. Riseborough was excellent so the comparisons just seem nasty, especially since they are directed solely towards her.

    yes, i am pressed that a white woman most likely pushed out a more deserving black actress as a nominee. I am not placing blame at her feet for campaigning as she has the right to do, but it is a completely valid and fair statement that, as a result of her campaign, a more deserving performance by a black actress was omitted. You cant seem to wrap your head around that.

    Letterboxd: Brayfers

    !EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE!
    - SEVEN OSCARS
    - BEST PICTURE
    - Michelle Yeoh, Best Actress
    - Ke Huy Quan, Best Supporting Actor
    - Jamie Lee Curtis, Best Supporting Actress
    - Daniel Kwan & Daniel Scheinert, Best Director & Best Original Screenplay
    - Paul Rogers, Best Film Editing

    FYC (TV):
    - Abbott Elementary
    - House of the Dragon
    - The White Lotus
    - The Last of Us


    Brayfers
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    Omg look through previous threads of people complaining about her campaigning. The revisionist history…

    we can complain about her campaigning, while also understanding that she has the right to do it.

    Letterboxd: Brayfers

    !EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE!
    - SEVEN OSCARS
    - BEST PICTURE
    - Michelle Yeoh, Best Actress
    - Ke Huy Quan, Best Supporting Actor
    - Jamie Lee Curtis, Best Supporting Actress
    - Daniel Kwan & Daniel Scheinert, Best Director & Best Original Screenplay
    - Paul Rogers, Best Film Editing

    FYC (TV):
    - Abbott Elementary
    - House of the Dragon
    - The White Lotus
    - The Last of Us


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    #1205273565

    it’s a weird year overall.

    globe actress nominees empire of light, babylon, and mrs harris goes to paris each got more oscar noms outside of lead actress than till+blonde+woman king+to leslie combined.


    Chloe Sevigny stan <3
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    but it is a completely valid and fair statement that, as a result of her campaign, a more deserving performance by a black actress was omitted. You cant seem to wrap your head around that.

    Wrap my head around what? Your opinion? Sorry but that’s not a fact… The Academy were not forced to nominate Andrea so move on and channel this energy towards the BAFTA’s where Deadwyler is nominated.


    mafro987
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    Omg look through previous threads of people complaining about her campaigning. The revisionist history…

    Andrea as an individual did not violate any campaign rules and is not being investigated for her actions specifically. Most people are calling out the mass email campaign, mobilisation of the Hollywood establishment while co-opting the language of bottom-up ‘grassroots’ movements, and the multiple references to vote counts / the competition by her vocal supporters. None of this was conducted by Andrea herself, so stop taking this as an attack on her or her performance.

    I admittedly have seen a few people on Twitter calling her Scamdrea Riseborough which is unfair. It’s unfortunate that the actions of other people have affected her reputation negatively. The effect that the campaign had in upholding existing power structures in Hollywood is more of an issue though.

    FYC: Danielle Deadwyler, Best Actress in a Leading Role


    Brayfers
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    Wrap my head around what? Your opinion? Sorry but that’s not a fact… The Academy were not forced to nominate Andrea so move on and channel this energy towards the BAFTA’s where Deadwyler is nominated.

    you said yourself that you think Deadwyler would have been most likely nominated had it not been for Riseborough’s campaign/nom, so unless you’re thinking different now, don’t we share the same opinions?

    Letterboxd: Brayfers

    !EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE!
    - SEVEN OSCARS
    - BEST PICTURE
    - Michelle Yeoh, Best Actress
    - Ke Huy Quan, Best Supporting Actor
    - Jamie Lee Curtis, Best Supporting Actress
    - Daniel Kwan & Daniel Scheinert, Best Director & Best Original Screenplay
    - Paul Rogers, Best Film Editing

    FYC (TV):
    - Abbott Elementary
    - House of the Dragon
    - The White Lotus
    - The Last of Us

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