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Henry didn’t make the shortlist but when BAFTA talked to anonymous voters before the shortlist was announced, he was singled out by a few people, as was the movie. He didn’t get enough votes to make the shortlist but he clearly did get some votes from some voters. The BAFTA and SAG snubs may have even mobilized people to put him #1 on their Oscars ballot because they wanted to ensure he got in this time. You never really know.
Worst idea ever. This would diminish any semblance of cultural cache the Oscars have with the general public. Michelle Yeoh and Angela Bassett are proving that genre performances can be nominated, and even be frontrunners under the current categories anyway.
The Oscars are useless for the general public. Not everyone throws a tantrum if their actor/actress of choice does not get a nomination and even fewer people watch. Check the ratings; someone has to get slapped so people pay attention. Many actors and actresses do not have the trajectory Bassett and Yeoh have, so they will never get nominated for outstanding performances in genre films if a preference towards Drama and biopic remains. The reply provided is as elitist as the bias held by the Academy in excellent performances that were overlooked.
I will not be okay if Cate wins. And for person above who wants 6 nominees, what if i.e. secretly Emma Thompson was 6th this year and we had 5 whites + Yeoh? People would be even more annoyed.
”5 whites”?
This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.You and all of Twitter. Brace yourselves ’cause your hopediction for Yeoh is not coming to fruition. Blanchett has the Oscar locked up.
Uh huh…..
The Sunne in Splendour.
I prefer my roses whiteSorry, but this just sounds stupid. How is the percentage of nominees representative of the population a lack of representation? Alas.
The point here is that Black people aren’t the only people to go unrecognized for their work. White people get snubbed too. We can’t cry “racism” every time a Black person misses, because sometimes, people just miss.
Chukwu is right about society upholding whiteness, but that is lazy in this context.
It’s not inaccurate to say posters were attacking Andrea as an individual, whether or not you were.
And there’s no systemic exclusion of Black women at the Oscars. In the industry, maybe, I think that they may not be getting their share of roles, but the Oscars are representing them just fine, sorry not sorry.
Please tell me why you think a correlation is worth making between Oscar nominations chosen by AMPAS and the racial makeup of the US population? The two things are completely unrelated. AMPAS does not represent the US population. It’s an international membership body claiming to recognise excellence in cinematic achievement. No one is arguing for precise measurements or proportions relating to population – they’re asking for the removal of bias and the celebration of marginalised stories.
How can there be no systemic exclusion of black women at the Oscars when the Oscars are supposedly a reflection of the film industry more broadly, which you acknowledged “might” have a problem in your post? I’m inclined to trust the thoughts of a prominent director working in the industry itself, who would know from experience. The attacks on Andrea are nothing compared to the disgusting comments Chinonye has received from white supremacists (who have embarrassingly latched onto Riseborough’s nomination as some kind of triumph) across social media over the past few days.
While I obviously condemn the attacks on Andrea, the language employed by the campaign (“grassroots organising”, “fighting against elitism”, etc.) is provocative and was always going to invite pushback. We can agree to disagree, but it’s important to hear other perspectives.
FYC: Danielle Deadwyler, Best Actress in a Leading Role
Saying Black women aren’t getting systematically excluded when there is literally only one Black woman that has won ever is actually a crazy statement. Like obviously there is more factors and nuance to it, but you’re just being blindly ignorant if you cannot see the mistreatment Black actresses face by the Academy.
Some relatively good news. Both TAR and Till reached $10M worldwide. “Till” has been released in UK since January, 6th and it has earned almost $1M. “TAR” has been released in several territories the past few weekends, it earned $1,8M in UK (since 13/01), and it earned $750k in France, $550k in AUstralia and $300k in Spain. TAR grossed $3,8M internationally in January.
After 40 days and widest release of 700 theaters, “Women Talking” earned around $2,6M domestically.
What I want to say is that it is good that these movies are making some money even though it is clear they are financial flops. I doubt either will break even (both TAR and Till costed cca $35M with marketing costs) but it would be nice for them to earn as much as they can. Regardless whether Deadwyler is nominated or not, we need movies like this, we need more POC leading ladies. So, hope for the best!
Spreading the Love: Oscars 2023
Best Picture: Everything Everywhere All At Once
Best Director: The Daniels
Best Actor: Colin Farrell
Best Actress: Cate Blanchett
Best Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan
Best Supporting Actress: Angela Bassettit is understandable the flop of till but tar and women talking making only 10 and 3 million and being nominated for best picture is living proof of why the oscar are becoming irrelevant
the two most flopped best picture nominated movies of the 21st century not counting streaming movies and with the exception of judas and black messiah but that one was released on hbomax for a month before theaters and it was still year of covid. that is why michslle yeoh needs to win, a performance people care about
Well, I would rather have Oscars being irrelevant to the wider public than transforming Best Picture category into “Biggest Box Office Success”.
Michelle Yeoh “needs” to win for entire list of reasons. The box office earnings of EEAAO honestly may be the last. Not to mention that her performance is hardly the only one people care about in this category. Yes, her movie is the most popular, but De Armas has also a big fanbase and Blanchett managed somehow to transform Lydia TAR into a not-so-insignificant Internet sensation.
Spreading the Love: Oscars 2023
Best Picture: Everything Everywhere All At Once
Best Director: The Daniels
Best Actor: Colin Farrell
Best Actress: Cate Blanchett
Best Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan
Best Supporting Actress: Angela BassettA performance people care about at the moment. But will it stand the test of time? We’ll see… Tar (and Lydia Tar) already has a life of its own outside of the movie and will probably become a cult classic. Cate’s performance in Tar is a performance that will be talked about and referenced from here on out. And maestro will win that Oscar.
you are just guessing and there is no way to know what will be cult classic and what will be talked about in many years from now. people said the same thing about cate blanchett in carol and no one remember it anymore
most of the time people remember performances in succesful movies not in flop that critics tried to hype way too much. who will care about tar in the future is the same people who care about it now and that is not very many. michelle yeoh will win that oscar
Well, I would rather have Oscars being irrelevant to the wider public than transforming Best Picture category into “Biggest Box Office Success”. Michelle Yeoh “needs” to win for entire list of reasons. The box office earnings of EEAAO honestly may be the last. Not to mention that her performance is hardly the only one people care about in this category. Yes, her movie is the most popular, but De Armas has also a big fanbase and Blanchett managed somehow to transform Lydia TAR into a not-so-insignificant Internet sensation.
when movies are officially dead you should ask the oscar to pay for cate blanchett next flop movie
internet sensation lol get out of your bubble, no one outside film twitter knows who lydia tar is
most of the time people remember performances in succesful movies not in flop that critics tried to hype way too much.
Then, why are we giving it to Yeoh instead of Letitia Wright or Zoe Saldana? And let’s not pretend like EEAAO didn’t do well with the critics as it has won quite a number of critics awards.
What you are saying to us can be said to you: People remember performances in successful movies (e.g. Letitia Wright in “Wakanda Forever”) not in a movie that critics tried to hype way too much (Michelle Yeoh in “Everything Everywhere All At Once”). It’s just the matter of scope.
Despite wider popularity, I am not sure a lot of choices Academy made that were based on popularity stood the test of time: Lawrence over Riva, Stone over Huppert, Roberts over Burstyn, Bullock over Sidibe. But then again, you have Moore over Pike, which really aged like milk.
Spreading the Love: Oscars 2023
Best Picture: Everything Everywhere All At Once
Best Director: The Daniels
Best Actor: Colin Farrell
Best Actress: Cate Blanchett
Best Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan
Best Supporting Actress: Angela BassettThen, why are we giving it to Yeoh instead of Letitia Wright or Zoe Saldana? And let’s not pretend like EEAAO didn’t do well with the critics as it has won quite a number of critics awards. What you are saying to us can be said to you: People remember performances in successful movies (e.g. Letitia Wright in “Wakanda Forever”) not in a movie that critics tried to hype way too much (Michelle Yeoh in “Everything Everywhere All At Once”). It’s just the matter of scope. Despite wider popularity, I am not sure a lot of choices Academy made that were based on popularity stood the test of time: Lawrence over Riva, Stone over Huppert, Roberts over Burstyn, Bullock over Sidibe. But then again, you have Moore over Pike, which really aged like milk.
not you naming the worlds biggest female movie stars to say that their win did not stand the test of time. jennifer lawrence, sandra bullock, julia roberts, emma stone all defined a generation of actresses, made the industry billions of dollars and are famous all over the world
do you really think voters look back on those wins and think they made the wrong decision? some of your friends on twitter and critics will try to be loud about it but tea is, the oscar was right and did what they had to do to make sure movies were still relevant to the next generation
not you naming the worlds biggest female movie stars to say that their win did not stand the test of time. jennifer lawrence, sandra bullock, julia roberts, emma stone all defined a generation of actresses, made the industry billions of dollars and are famous all over the world
do you really think voters look back on those wins and think they made the wrong decision? some of your friends on twitter and critics will try to be loud about it but tea is, the oscar was right and did what they had to do to make sure movies were still relevant to the next generation
Yes, I do believe each of those wins was a mistake. You, or Academy voters, are free to disagree with me. I have no authority to impose my views on anyone. Just to state them. I admire all of the mentioned women, I respect their bodies of work, I even love all those movies. But I do believe they were not the best out of 5 in their respective years. Just as I think that much popular Rosamund Pike should have won over overdue Julianne Moore. That’s just one person’s opinion.
Spreading the Love: Oscars 2023
Best Picture: Everything Everywhere All At Once
Best Director: The Daniels
Best Actor: Colin Farrell
Best Actress: Cate Blanchett
Best Supporting Actor: Ke Huy Quan
Best Supporting Actress: Angela Bassett
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