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February 8, 2023 at 6:50 am #1205297142
Yeoh doesn’t have to win shit…she just has to win the Oscar and that’s about it.
February 8, 2023 at 8:49 am #1205297212Gina really ate everyone up in that article
and it’s great that Viola is amplifying this given that she does have power in the industry.
“Of course, everyone is talking about what happened with best actress. Two women were considered as probable nominees: The Woman King’s Viola Davis was nominated for a Critics Choice Award, BAFTA and SAG Award, and Till’s Danielle Deadwyler won the Gotham Award and was also nominated for BAFTA, SAG and Critics Choice, but both failed to earn notice from the Academy. My issue with what happened is how people in the industry use their social capital — screenings in their homes, personal calls, personal emails, personal connections, elevated status. People like to say, “Well, Viola and Danielle had studios behind them.” But we just very clearly saw that social capital is more valuable than that. That type of power is exercised in more casual ways in social circles, where folks are your friends or your acquaintances. There may be diversity on your sets but not in your lives. And Black women in this industry, we don’t have that power. There is no groundswell from privileged people with enormous social capital to get behind Black women. There never has been.”
she kinda gagged certain users on hereEverything Everywhere All At Once for BP
SOS for AOTY
Succession for Best Series
February 8, 2023 at 8:59 am #1205297216Chastain deserved so much better that winning for that movie. So many great roles in the last decade, and they decide to award her for that?!?!
She definitely deserved to win for a much better role and film than that, although I think a factor in her winning last year may have been she was considered more ‘due’ a win than the other nominees, given that Colman, Cruz and Kidman had already won Oscars and that Stewart was a first-time nominee. Chastain was the only contender to have received multiple nominations in the past without ever having won, so I can see a situation where some voters felt like it was her time, even if this was a long way from the best material she had to work with in her career.
February 8, 2023 at 9:19 am #1205297236London with their white director, white picture, white writing, white lead acting, white supporting acting, white breakthrough acting, white british acting, white breakthrough directing winners? That’s not what would make the difference.
This is almost like the final Oscar winners will be. I keep saying it every year, BAFTAs are more racist than the Academy, and it extends to other British organizations. The worst part is that LFCA influences BAFTA and the biggest intersection of any organization of voters with the Oscar are the BAFTAs. That’s one of the many things that needs to be fixed or change will never ever happen.
February 8, 2023 at 9:24 am #1205297239I know people shit on Chastain but I was thrilled by her win! She was overdue and in a mid-field, her win isn’t something I was against. I was indeed supporting it (Cruz was clearly the best but considering she was a past winner, it didn’t upset me)
February 8, 2023 at 9:32 am #1205297248She definitely deserved to win for a much better role and film than that, although I think a factor in her winning last year may have been she was considered more ‘due’ a win than the other nominees, given that Colman, Cruz and Kidman had already won Oscars and that Stewart was a first-time nominee. Chastain was the only contender to have received multiple nominations in the past without ever having won, so I can see a situation where some voters felt like it was her time, even if this was a long way from the best material she had to work with in her career.
Yeah, but it always seem like it is time for any variation of white women. These last years, wether it’s an overdue case (Moore, Chastain), adding another statue to their shelves (Streep, Blanchett, Zelwegger, McDormand) or recognizing a character actress with an outstanding performance (Colman), the Best Actress category has been shifting their choices from the ingénue to older actresses and yet the Academy’s picks keep defaulting to them.
February 8, 2023 at 9:42 am #1205297257Yay! A convo that doesn’t include “cate’s gonna win Cate’s gonna win”!
Said so already but my fave perf from Chastain is Lawless.
The Sunne in Splendour.
I prefer my roses whiteFebruary 8, 2023 at 10:33 am #1205297318Chastain deservedly won. She gave a strong performance and it was a very terrible lineup. Nobody else in that lineup did jack to warrant a win. Her interview scene is better than everything this year’s nominees did in their mid films
Gaga is slaying in Folie à Deux
February 8, 2023 at 10:37 am #1205297323this year is The slowest Best Actress thread in Oscar History
Be patient with us. 2024 isn’t so far away. We’ll have the usual threads then
Gaga is slaying in Folie à Deux
February 8, 2023 at 12:20 pm #1205297421this year is The slowest Best Actress thread in Oscar History
That’s a very kind way to describe it.
The Sunne in Splendour.
I prefer my roses whiteFebruary 8, 2023 at 12:39 pm #1205297457this year is The slowest Best Actress thread in Oscar History
All the trolls got banned
FYC:
Everything Everywhere All At Once in every eligible category
Hold My Hand - Lady Gaga for Best Original Song
February 8, 2023 at 1:37 pm #1205297508This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.February 8, 2023 at 2:33 pm #1205297563I had to log in just to write this: Chastain deserved her win. Her performance was flawless and IMO, the best in the line-up. Yes, it was super baity and that’s not a bad thing when the actor delivers. Kidman’s performance was just as baity, but wasn’t as strong.(not hating on Kidman, I think she deserved the nomination just on the basis of how hard it was to play Lucille Ball, and she was fine anyway and overdue for a nomination.)
You guys are never satisfied with anything. When someone wins for a great performance in a mediocre movie, you complain. When someone wins for a mediocre performance in a great movie(Brie Larson, Frances McDormand), you complain again.
So let me get it straight: someone only deserves to win Best Actress if:
has an amazing!!!! performance in a STRONG BP nominee/winner?And then you complain when genre performances are snubbed. It’s exactly that logic(“something only deserves recognition if it’s in a Oscar bait directed by a prestigious director”), that makes amazing performances (Nyongo in Us, Blunt in A Quiet Place and Collette in Hereditary) get snubbed for mediocre/bad performances that are just coattailing a big movie.
February 8, 2023 at 2:41 pm #1205297569You guys are never satisfied with anything. When someone wins for a great performance in a mediocre movie, you complain. When someone wins for a mediocre performance in a great movie(Brie Larson, Frances McDormand), you complain again. So let me get it straight: someone only deserves to win Best Actress if: has an amazing!!!! performance in a STRONG BP nominee/winner? And then you complain when genre performances are snubbed. It’s exactly that logic(“something only deserves recognition if it’s in a Oscar bait directed by a prestigious director”), that makes amazing performances (Nyongo in Us, Blunt in A Quiet Place and Collette in Hereditary) get snubbed for mediocre/bad performances that are just coattailing a big movie.
Spot on. The people in this thread etc whining about the de Armas nomination are the same folk that complain about basic biopic performances winning/nominated every year, when her performance/movie was their antithesis. Sad
FYC:
Zar Amir Ebrahimi - Holy Spider (Best Actress)
Ana de Armas, Julianne Nicholson - Blonde (Best Actress, Supporting Actress)
Samantha Morton - She Said (Best Supporting Actress)
Kerry Condon - The Banshees of Inisherin (Best Supporting Actress)February 8, 2023 at 3:54 pm #1205297626Chastain deserved her win although Cruz would have been a classy choice, too.
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