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  • BrazilianDude
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    PART 2!!!! YAY! Brendan Gleeson, The Banshees of Inisherin Brian Tyree Henry, Causeway Judd Hirsch, The Fabelmans Ke Huy Quan, Everything Everywhere All at Once Ben Whishaw, Women Talking This Barry love is good to see. I had him for a while but idk… I wanna bet on a surprise so I’m just gonna go with Henry while I got him at good odds.

    wow, I have the same line up.

    Quan is my pick for winner since the beginning. Go, Quan!


    ejaru1810
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    After watching EEAAO again last night, there’s no way Quan loses this, he is the heart of the film.
    His character is the most sympathetic one from the film and during the first half, he truly shines. The scene when he says “I don’t know what’s going on but I know it’s my fault” is truly heartbreaking, Even if critics don’t go for him, don’t see how the Industry will deny him.

    1) Quan
    2) Whishaw
    3) Gleeson
    4) Hirsh
    5) Pitt

    "EGOT" and "Triple Crown of Acting" winner: VIOLA DAVIS!!!!


    ejaru1810
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    Man from Goonies is not winning. He’s not even getting nominated. What are people smoking?

    What are you smoking? The only way he misses is if EEAAO underperforms hard and it feels unlikely with every passing day. Actors are eating this film up and the film has passion something than plenty others are lacking, even those who don’t like the film know the love and passion for it is massive. Trying to deny it is lack of judgement.

    "EGOT" and "Triple Crown of Acting" winner: VIOLA DAVIS!!!!


    kbc
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    8 minutes is enough for a nomination. Sam Elliot was nominated for a 8:45 minutes performance recently, for example. Not to mention that 9 minute performance already won in this category. if his screentime is about 8 minutes, he is in. I would fear if his performance is less than that.

     

    I think the analogous win for Hirsch would be Ben Johnson – compare either with Cooper’s arch lampooning in Licorice Pizza and you’ll see what I mean.

    FYC
    Best Picture: "Aftersun" (A24); “Bones & All” (MGM/UA)
    Best Director: Charlotte Wellls; Luca Guadagnino
    Best Actress: Frankie Corio; Taylor Russell
    Best Actor: Paul Mescal; Timothee Chalamet
    Best Supporting Actress: Chloe Sevigny
    Best Supporting Actor: Mark Rylance, Andre Holland, Michael Stuhlbarg
    Best Original Screenplay: Charlotte Wells
    Best Adapted Screenplay: David Kajganich


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    crabbie
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    Licorice Pizza was not well received by AMPAS (missed editing, best actress, lost original screenplay), so it makes sense why Cooper missed. Not to mention Cooper’s character was sleazy and unremarkable. The Fablemans is top 3 (probably top 2) in Picture and Hirsch plays a lovable figure, not to mention he has a stronger pedigree. Hirsch can still miss, but he has a much stronger case than Cooper did.

    Michelle (Yeoh, Williams) Oscar campaign manager.

    FYC:
    Best Picture: Banshees of Inisherin, Everything Everywhere All At Once, Decision to Leave
    Best Director: Park Chan-Wook Todd Field
    Best Original Screenplay: Banshees of Inisherin, Everything Everywhere All At Once
    Best Actor: Colin Farrell
    Best Actress: Michelle Yeoh, Cate Blanchett, Tang Wei
    Best Supporting Actor: Brendan Gleeson, Ke Huy Quan
    Best Supporting Actress: Kerry Condon, Nina Hoss


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    It’s a recency thing I know, but I kind of get tired of seeing Cooper constantly used as the example of why actors with a smaller role can’t be nominated. It just shouldn’t be treated like the barometer because, ultimately, he was just there to be loud and bombastic for a few minutes. His character wasn’t very important to the movie or memorable outside of it being a loud performance. There are a lot of performances to cite that have had success with that amount of time, and others that haven’t, but I don’t think arguments talking about LP and Cooper hold much water. Leo could have been playing that character and still wouldn’t have made it.


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    crabbie
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    Feel like Hirsch might get in over Dano ala Dench over Balfe this year. Of course Dano has a higher cachet than Balfe and Dench was more revered than Hirsch, but it’s a possibility.

    Michelle (Yeoh, Williams) Oscar campaign manager.

    FYC:
    Best Picture: Banshees of Inisherin, Everything Everywhere All At Once, Decision to Leave
    Best Director: Park Chan-Wook Todd Field
    Best Original Screenplay: Banshees of Inisherin, Everything Everywhere All At Once
    Best Actor: Colin Farrell
    Best Actress: Michelle Yeoh, Cate Blanchett, Tang Wei
    Best Supporting Actor: Brendan Gleeson, Ke Huy Quan
    Best Supporting Actress: Kerry Condon, Nina Hoss


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    It’s a recency thing I know, but I kind of get tired of seeing Cooper constantly used as the example of why actors with a smaller role can’t be nominated. It just shouldn’t be treated like the barometer because, ultimately, he was just there to be loud and bombastic for a few minutes. His character wasn’t very important to the movie or memorable outside of it being a loud performance. There are a lot of performances to cite that have had success with that amount of time, and others that haven’t, but I don’t think arguments talking about LP and Cooper hold much water. Leo could have been playing that character and still wouldn’t have made it.

    Yeah, Cooper has been constantly compared recently as reasoning why Hirsch won’t make it, as if the Supporting categories aren’t the home of nominating acting veterans giving impactful performances with shorter screentimes. Cooper isn’t (and can’t be) comparable for every actor who fits this bill.


    Rachel615
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    Hirsch… has a stronger pedigree. Hirsch can still miss, but he has a much stronger case than Cooper did.

    This made me smile. I definitely agree that Hirsch has “a stronger pedigree” than Cooper but Cooper IS the one with NINE Oscar nominations to Hirsch’s one, 42 years ago….


    BurgerFriesSoda
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    Yeah, Cooper has been constantly compared recently as reasoning why Hirsch won’t make it, as if the Supporting categories aren’t the home of nominating acting veterans giving impactful performances with shorter screentimes. Cooper isn’t (and can’t be) comparable for every actor who fits this bill.

    I always use Alan Alda in 2004 as an example of this phenomena.


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    Cooper and Hirsch are also completely different performers with completely different narratives. Cooper would have been on like his 10th nomination, possibly without a win. Were voters really going to feel the need to nominate him for that performance just for him to lose to Troy Kotsur? Hirsch hasn’t been nominated in like 40 years, nominating him for the Fabelmans would be a major welcome back moment for him. Hirsch, as mentioned, also plays a much more likable character than Cooper did, and the Fabelmans in general will perform much better. They’re in completely different conversations, so while I have no idea if Hirsch will be nominated to say he CAN’T be because Cooper wasn’t feels like a major leap.


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    It’s a recency thing I know, but I kind of get tired of seeing Cooper constantly used as the example of why actors with a smaller role can’t be nominated. It just shouldn’t be treated like the barometer because, ultimately, he was just there to be loud and bombastic for a few minutes. His character wasn’t very important to the movie or memorable outside of it being a loud performance. There are a lot of performances to cite that have had success with that amount of time, and others that haven’t, but I don’t think arguments talking about LP and Cooper hold much water. Leo could have been playing that character and still wouldn’t have made it.

    I know people don’t like Cooper on here, but I do think he should have gotten in for his portrayal in Licorice Pizza. Certainly over JK Simmons, at the very least.

    Very memorable performance and very well executed, too.

    The reason it didn’t get in is cos Licorice Pizza underperformed with Oscar voters and Cooper was not campaigning.

    I personally think he should have won (I know, controversial). Although I do think people underrate it a lot on here compared to other places, as there is an anti Cooper bias on here.

    It’s worth mentioning, though, that older actors are the ones who tend to do best out of limited screen time parts. As someone said before, Johnson in The Last Picture Show and Sam Elliot in asib.


    Shrek Superslam
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    This made me smile. I definitely agree that Hirsch has “a stronger pedigree” than Cooper but Cooper IS the one with NINE Oscar nominations to Hirsch’s one, 42 years ago….

    It’s because people don’t like Cooper on this website, lol.

    Coopr will probably win in Lead Actor next year for Maestro, though.

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