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  • OneAndOnlyMe.
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    https://variety.com/2018/music/awards/scores-ruled-ineligible-for-oscar-green-room-solo-1203085221/

    Solo, Green Book, Other Side Of The Wind, and Mandy scores are ineligible.

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    People keep coming up with these scenarios year after year and they never happen. I don’t think Beale Street will be strong enough in the end to win. ASiB winning PGA also would be odd if it’s losing WGA to Green Book. That would mean it faltered at the end like La La Land and the WGA winner that beat it would win BP.

    Anyways, I think Black Panther is going Birdman style and winning SAG-PGA-DGA.

    2017: Get Out won WGA over PGA winner The Shape of Water
    2003: American Splendor won WGA over PGA winner The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
    2002: The Hours won WGA over PGA winner Chicago
    1997: As Good As It Gets won WGA over PGA winner Titanic
    1996: Sling Blade won WGA over PGA winner The English Patient

    Winning PGA and losing WGA isn’t odd at all especially if screenplay isn’t the film’s biggest strength. Not many expect A Star is Born to win screenplay so it wouldn’t be strange to see it lose at WGA especially considering it’s a musical and that genre usually doesn’t win screenplay awards. Therefore, it would not be “faltering at the end” because it’s not expected to win for screenplay just as La La Land wasn’t expected to win screenplay. Multiple films (as seen above) have won PGA and lost WGA and still managed to win the Oscar for Best Picture.

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    La La Land wasn’t expected to win screenplay. Multiple films (as seen above) have won PGA and lost WGA and still managed to win the Oscar for Best Picture.

    La La Land did win the Globe and Critic’s Choice (albiet a tie). It was certainly in the conversation to win.

    JackO
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    herefore, it would not be “faltering at the end” because it’s not expected to win for screenplay just as La La Land wasn’t expected to win screenplay. Multiple films (as seen above) have won PGA and lost WGA and still managed to win the Oscar for Best Picture.

    But in the example of above, all guilds awards went to different films. The first example you name is a film that won PGA and DGA. Same with ROTK which won SAG, PGA, and DGA. Of course those films were going to win BP when they won multiple guilds but that runs counter to prediction laid out.

    And needless to say, screenplay is NOT one of Green Book’s more celebrated aspects.

    TVFan365
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    But in the example of above, all guilds awards went to different films. The first example you name is a film that won PGA and DGA. Same with ROTK which won SAG, PGA, and DGA. Of course those films were going to win BP when they won multiple guilds but that runs counter to prediction laid out.

    And needless to say, screenplay is NOT one of Green Book’s more celebrated aspects.

    I was about to write another long counterargument to your point but I just realized we’ve been arguing about two films that aren’t even in the same category lol. “A Star is Born” is in Adapted and “Green Book” is in original. So “A Star is Born” is actually going to lose to “If Beale Street Could Talk” or “BlacKkKlansman” at WGA. Barry Jenkins could win over a musical again. 🙂

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    JackO
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    This year more than ever we are seeing a critic/audience disconnect. I mean Malek is lock for a nom and Green Book is winning so called “critic” awards. I don’t think whatever Podunk Arkansas Critics Saloon selects as their BP is going to be determinate in the race this year. No need to live or die by their choices.

    Cinephile
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    Sooo is Roma the overwhelming frontrunner to win BP now? The other shared frontrunners: Green Book and A Star is Born are yet to win a Best Picture award among the critics. I also doubt Green Book and A Star Is Born will win SAG, CC or BAFTA.

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    Roma SHOULD be the overwhelming favorite as it is a masterpiece (: We have 10 more weeks to go though. My own view is that it will win the BP Oscar due to the PREFERENTIAL BALLOT. I know others don’t see it the way I do but I think it will get a ton of #1’s, #2’s, and #3’s and will win as a result.

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    Turner Unruh
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    I think Roma might have a problem winning Best Picture because its from netflix.

    Brayden Fitzsimmons
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    I think Roma might have a problem winning Best Picture because its from netflix.

    Honestly the Netflix factor is the only real obstacle in it’s. Every other main argument against Roma not winning can easily be applied to The Artist

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    Guileremo’s backing Spider-Man for animated

    https://twitter.com/realgdt/status/1070583406180950017?s=21

    Marcus.H
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    I’m gonna watch Roma on Netflix in 5 days and I’m beyond excited. Cuarón really can do no wrong

    I really wish you can have a chance to watch it in theaters. That’s a breathtaking journey for me.

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    Open question; I might have a chance to re-watch either A Star Is Born or Green Book for a 2nd time in theaters. Which one should I choose? In my eyes both had some truly great performances but the scripts were the weakest links in the films, not that they were bad, just not extraordinary or Oscar-worthy.

    I’m an asib proponent so take what you will. After watching the road to stardom bts docu attached the IMAX screenings of asib there was a plethora of great filmmaking explained by Bradley that was subliminal upon watching the first time. But after the 2nd time I recognized what he has done like the specific use of shaky cam/steady cam throughout, medium-close shots on Ally in contrast to mostly profile shots of Jackson, the evolutionary lighting changes  and camera lens becoming sharper during Ally’s ascent and Jackson’s descent etc

    Personally, despite what you think of asib I think you can appreciate the filmmaking aspect particular cooper’s use of cinematic derives to manipulate or direct audience’s experience, imho for me that aspect is more impressive than green book’s.

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