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    Disgraced Eve Polastri Stan
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    https://www.oscars.org/news/academy-establishes-representation-and-inclusion-standards-oscarsr-eligibility

    What are your thoughts on these policies starting in 2024?

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    Stank83
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    This is dictating how someone should make films.

    This is insane.

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    Well, reading into the rules it shouldn’t be that hard to make this happen. It says that only 2 out of the 4 standards need to be there in order to be considered and if getting standards B, C, and D is hard for a film, then there clearly is a diversity problem in the production.

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    Gabriel Seehorn (gabspss)
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    So films from white countries are ineligible for Best Picture?

    This rule is fantastic for diverse countries like America but I’m kinda confused with what does this means for white countries like Switzerland.

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    Obviously these rules will be worked on and they won’t take place for another four years from what I’ve heard.

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    So films from white countries are ineligible for Best Picture? This rule is fantastic for diverse countries like America but I’m kinda confused with what does this means for white countries like Switzerland.

    No. They can still compete if there are women, LGBTQ, or people with disabilities working in the production. The can get standard B having two women as department heads, it’s easy. Same with standards C and D.

    Anyway, there’s a lot of overreacting on Twitter without any legitimate argument. They only way a film is not going to be considered is if only straight white men are working on it, in front and behind the cameras, which once again shouldn’t be the case in 2020.

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    These are so easy to fulfill for American movies that the outrage over would be kinda funny.

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    Disgraced Eve Polastri Stan
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    Okay, my two cents:

    I don’t think that these standards are detrimental in theory, but the campaign system is a corporate/capitalist system at heart. I think that studios would likely take the path of least resistance in adhering to only standards B or C, which is of course all fine and good. But only adhering to these standards is more likely to lead to the assimilation of minorities into a capitalist system that still remains uninterested in changing their valuation of minorities. And even with all of these standards in mind, it could still lead to a bunch of Green Book/Harriet reduxes that don’t really offer anything significant in terms of social commentary being nominated, which wouldn’t put us that far ahead of where we are in actuality. Representation is needed, but it’s only the start of overhauling a broken system, and claiming that representation in itself is good enough and that efforts should end there will prove to be problematic in the future.

    For me personally, I think that some of the greatest strides in representation to be made would be to have studios release films that offer challenging perspectives on race or any minority status that maybe even include capitalist critiques, as ironic as it may seem for big studios to be putting this out. The aforementioned standards do not guarantee that the broken campaign system will actually pick up challenging films that talk about systemic racism (because of their potential for controversy and low box office) and give them the visibility to be nominated at the Oscars.

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    So people like Scorsese or PTA, or other established white filmmakers, won’t be able to have their future films eligible because their storylines have straight and healthy white guys in it?????

    This is insane.
    Wouldn’t be surprised if these rules change quickly because lots of established and independent filmmakers will protest against this bullshit rules!!!

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    Read carefully, it won’t change anything.

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    So people like Scorsese or PTA, or other established white filmmakers, won’t be able to have their future films eligible because their storylines have straight and healthy white guys in it?????

    This is insane.
    Wouldn’t be surprised if these rules change quickly because lots of established and independent filmmakers will protest against this bullshit rules!!!

    Did you ever read these?

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    Disgraced Eve Polastri Stan
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    Read carefully, it won’t change anything.

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    I think The Academy has good intentions with this, but i have some issues with their decision.

    Maybe if they had been more diverse inside their own institution and at the time of selecting nominees and winners they would not need to “force” the industry to change, because yes, the film industry lacks a ton of representation, but The Academy has failed at representing these groups too in their ceremonies, and it feels like they want to put the blame on film creators for not putting these people on and off the screen.

    Also, this decision is being made to influence on ALL CINEMA, and well, The Academy is not all cinema, it’s just an institution and award show that supports and pushes cinema, but they are not the ones who decide everything about it. If studios want to mold themselves to the requirements that The Academy establishes then that’s okay, but everyone must remember that they are not the rulers of the film industry, it’s just that everyone forgets.

    If The Academy was not mostly old white men maybe they would not have to feel the need to make this huuuuge move, if they had cared about nominating and awarding more unrepresented people then they would not need this, but here we are having to push diversity with some obligation just because they also fucked up.

    AND MOST IMPORTANT, just because the films in contention will now have on and off screen representation DOES NOT MEAN that The Academy WILL reward those unrepresented artists, this does NOT mean that we will now have women, black people, latin, asians, etc, winning every single year, because they can and probably will end up continue to mostly (only) nominate white male directors and the same white actors, writers, cinematographers, designers, etc.

    In their announcement there is no part that says “since movies have to be inclusive to be in contention then our nominees and winners will also be”, those are two very different things and we will just have to see if they live up to their own words and actually start rewarding those groups they seem to want to stand out.

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    Greta Gerwig is shaking at the thought of having to cast someone that isn’t white.

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    Does anyone here know what is the most recent BP nominee that wouldn’t be elegible with these new rules?

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