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    In 1999, AFI created a list of the 50 Greatest Stars in their opinion. I do think it’s a nice list but there are some worthy stars missing from their list. They could have done 100 stars in my opinion. Here are some of my choices.

     

    • Bing Crosby
    • Frank Sinatra
    • Olivia de Hallivand
    • Montgomery Clift
    • Dorothy Dandridge
    • Thelma Ritter
    • Lucille Ball (probably the most legendary female entertainer ever)
    • Sammy Davis Jr.
    • Norma Shearer
    • Helen Hayes
    • Lana Turner
    • Audie Murphy
    • Joan Fonatine
    • Yul Brynner
    • Piper Laurie
    • Natalie Wood
    • Simone Signoret
    • Robert Taylor
    • Lena Horne
    • Burt Lancaster
    • Anna May Wong
    • Rosalind Russell
    • Gloria Swanson
    • William Holden
    • Dean Martin

    I though AFI did have a good list but they were missing some very prominet stars who I felt deserved slots. I believe the AFI list should have been much bigger. Please feel free to add on more names or have an opinion on the names I provied. What do you guys think?

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    What happened to these AFI lists anyways? I haven’t seen any in the last few years.

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    What happened to these AFI lists anyways? I haven’t seen any in the last few years.

    I believe they are satisfied with their list. They have only updated their overall film list.

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    Its hard for me to choose which snub was worse but if I had to choose, Id go with Olivia de Havilland and Yul Brynner. But all of these stars deserved to be mentioned and more.

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    #185034

    Myrna Loy
    Tyrone Power

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    AFI defines an “American screen legend” as an actor or a team of actors with a significant screen presence in American feature-length films whose screen debut occurred in or before 1950, or whose screen debut occurred after 1950 but whose death has marked a completed body of work.

    Rock Hudson

    For men, I think Rock Hudson should have been included. He is terrific as a dramatic actor in Giant giving an underplayed performance as a rugged man whose world view is changed by a society in which ethnicity and gender roles challenge the rapidly vanishing patriarchal values. There is a scene where he travels hundreds of miles and surprises his estranged wife at a family wedding. The camera holds on his face as he watches his wife and listens to the vows. In traditional cinema, this is normally the shot saved for the actress. The reversal and Hudson’s masterful performance makes the moment indelible.

    Of course, Hudson was equally effective in comedy such as the classic Pillow Talk. The spliced bathtub sequence with Doris Day is still funny and quite honestly, a little hot. He is a memorable screen presence who is dismissed as an star because of his work in romantic comedy.

    Hattie McDaniel

    For women,  Oscar winner Hattie McDaniel holds a special place in my heart as a great star of the early era of cinema. Remembered for her unforgettable work in Gone With the Wind, McDaniel was spectacular at  comedy as well. She deserved Oscar recognition as the maid serving dinner in Katharine Hepburn’s touching Alice Adams. McDaniel often played maids and was memorably quoted at the time, “I’d rather play a maid than be one.”

    Four times married, McDaniel was the daughter of a freed slave. She struggled to survive as an actress in a segregated society. She was not permitted to attend the premiere of Gone With the Wind in Atlanta. Yet, she had an active career with her final triumph in radio as yet another maid in Beulah.

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    Both Burt Lancaster and William Holden were ranked among the male stars in that 1999 list, England. 

    Other than John Wayne and Barbara Stanwyck inexplicably missing from the top 10 of their respective lineups, I really thought the AFI nailed their selections pretty well at the time; I can’t take issue with many of the choices.

    But admittedly, I did begrudge the omissions of Myrna Loy, Rosalind Russell and Olivia de Havilland from the women’s lineup.

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    The AFI has struck a new low with their latest selection of the life achievement award. Steve Martin becomes the first recipient who has never even received an Oscar nomination in any category, let alone winning an Oscar. If the film academy snubbed Martin over the years for either his acting or screenwriting, there is no reason for the AFI to make it up to him in this way. He got his undeserved honorary Oscar and his undeserved Kennedy Center Honor. You are right to think I don’t enjoy Steve Martin in any media. Sorry.

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    The AFI has struck a new low with their latest selection of the life achievement award. Steve Martin becomes the first recipient who has never even received an Oscar nomination in any category, let alone winning an Oscar. If the film academy snubbed Martin over the years for either his acting or screenwriting, there is no reason for the AFI to make it up to him in this way. He got his undeserved honorary Oscar and his undeserved Kennedy Center Honor. You are right to think I don’t enjoy Steve Martin in any media. Sorry.

     

    Spoiler alert — benbraddock cheers as Steve Martin races up to the stage to accept his Oscar for his brilliant performance in Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk.

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    If Steve Martin gives an oscar worthy performance
    then i will applaud…he still isnt worthy of the AFI
    Lifetime Achievement Award…

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    When the poll was conducted, James Dean and Steve McQueen were deemed eligible despite their careers starting after 1950 due to their having already passed away, while Paul Newman, Jack Lemmon, Clint Eastwood, Sean Connery and Jack Nicholson were ineligible due to the poor manners of remaining alive at that point.

     

    Other iconic male legends that had passed away and/or debuted by 1950 but didn’t get voted in included:

    Bob Hope

    Bing Crosby

    Frank Sinatra

    Errol Flynn

    Richard Burton

    Charlton Heston

    Peter Sellers

    Jerry Lewis

    Dean Martin

    Joel McCrea

    Randolph Scott

    John Garfield

    Montgomery Clift

    Mickey Rooney

    Tyrone Power
    Roger Moore

    Alec Guinness

    Vincent Price

    Boris Karloff

    Peter Lorre

    Abbott and Costello
    Robert Taylor

    Lon Chaney Sr.

    Robert Ryan

    Raymond Massey

    Rod Taylor

    Richard Boone

    Lon Chaney Jr.

    Bela Lugosi

    Peter Cushing

    Christopher Lee

    Toshiro Mifune

    Basil Rathbone

    Takashi Shimura

    Laurel and Hardy

    Harold Lloyd

    W.C. Fields

    Robert Young

    Will Rogers

    Fred MacMurray

    Danny Kaye

    Rudolph Valentino

    Leslie  Howard

    Fredric March

    Ronald Colman

    Ray Milland

    Anthony Quinn

    Richard Widmark

    The Three Stooges

    Joseph Cotten

    Lee J. Cobb

    Robert Donat
    Ralph Richardson

    Yul Brynner

    Tony Curtis

    Rock Hudson

    Richard Attenborough

    Roy Rogers

    Gene Autry

    Audie Murphy

    Stewart Granger

    John Gielgud

    Jean Gabin

    Roddy McDowall

    Walter Pidgeon

    Claude Rains

    Sydney Greenstreet

    Alan Hale Sr.

    Ward Bond

    Charley Chase

    Joe E. Brown

    Jack Benny

    George Burns

    Sammy Davis Jr.

    Raymond Burr

    Paul Muni

    George Raft

    Forrest Tucker

    Richard Basehart

    Pat O’Brien

    Rex Harrison

     

     

    Those deemed ineligible at the time that perhaps might have been included in the voting by this point would have included:

    Peter O’Toole

    Charles Bronson

    James Earl Jones
    George C. Scott

    Anthony Hopkins

    Robert Redford

    Woody Allen

    Robert De Niro

    Al Pacino

    Dustin Hoffman

    Robert Duvall

    Lee Marvin

    Peter Falk

    Walter Matthau

    James Garner

    Martin Balsam

    Ernest Borgnine

    Karl Malden

    Jean-Paul Belmondo

    Robert Wagner

    Morgan Freeman

    Harrison Ford

    Michael Caine

    Max Von Sydow

    James Coburn
    Denzel Washington

    George Kennedy

    Don Knotts

    Burt Reynolds
    Billy Dee Williams

    James Caan

    Mark Hamill
    Telly Savalas

    Jerry Seinfeld

    Samuel L. Jackson
    Darren McGavin

    Lorne Greene

    James Arness

    Christopher Reeve

    Chuck Connors

    Martin Milner

    Sylvester Stallone

    John Travolta

    William Shatner
    George Peppard
    Richard Chamberlain

    Donald Sutherland

    Leonard Nimoy

    Jonathan Harris

    DeForest Kelley

    Robin Williams

    Steve Martin

    Will Ferrell
    Elliott Gould

    Tom Cruise
    Robert Vaughn

    Jackie Chan
    Robert Culp

    Arnold Shwarzenegger

    Daniel Day-Lewis

    Mike Connors
    Bob Newhart

    Don Rickles

    Jonathan Winters

    Tony Randall

    Jack Klugman

    Flip Wilson

    Paul Lynde

    Dennis Weaver

    Bill Mumy

    Russell Crowe

    Ben Affleck

    Guy Williams

    Leonardo DiCaprio

    Chuck Norris
    David Hedison

    Matt Damon

    Dirk Benedict
    Ed Asner

    Ted Knight

    Gavin McLeod

    Bruce Willis

    Richard Hatch

    Mel Gibson

    David McCallum

    Laurence Fishburne

     

    Eligible women who were excluded:

    Doris Day

    Gene Tierney

    Lucille Ball

    Natalie Wood

    Jean Arthur

    Myrna Loy

    Olivia De Havilland

    Rosalind Russell

    Jane Darwell

    Hattie McDaniel

    Gracie Allen

     

    Those ineligible at the time of the poll:

     

    Joanne Woodward

    Julie Harris

    Debbie Reynolds

    Leslie Caron

    Meryl Streep

    Jane Fonda

    Barbra Streisand

    Barbara Eden

    Diana Rigg

    Julie Andrews

    Anne Francis

    Mary Tyler Moore

    Carol Burnett

    Eva Marei Saint

    Kim Novak
    Deanna Durbin

    Maggie Smith

    Elsa Lanchester

    Fay Wray

     

    And

    Julia Roberts

    Demi Moore

    Meryl Streep

    Sally Field

    Mia Farrow

    Barbara Feldon

    Erin Gray

    Maren Jensen

    Jane Seymour

    Jennifer Lawrence

    Kirsten Dunst

    Natalie Portman

    Pamela Anderson
    Carmen Electra

    Sarah Michelle Gellar

    Alyson Hannigan

    Charisma Carpenter

    Lucy Lawless

    Renee O’Connor

    Jennifer O’Dell

    Paula Trickey

    Darlene Vogel

    Jennifer Aniston

    Nicole Kidman

    Victoria Pratt

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    I wish Christopher Lee could win that Honorary Oscar.

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    Sorry, but he passed away two years ago, and they don’t give posthumous awards except when an actor dies after giving a competitive performance. I’m always angry at them for not having honored the great horror stars while they were still alive. But giving it after death would just be more of their self-glorification. They have lost the right to give any of them an award.

     

    A “Nova” special in the seventies that I recall focused on a physicist who scoffed at the Nobel prize awarded him. He correctly said the work itself is the true reward. But at least with the Nobel Prize they do put their money where their mouth is. With the Oscars, Emmys, Golden Globes, etc. where they always omit key people from the “in memoriam” segments and always leave great names unrewarded, whenever they do honor a worthy subject, it isn’t to grant prestige to that person, but rather to give that prestige to themselves in linking themselves undeservedly to themselves.

    Lee sure left a big impact on so many of the movie sagas (Star Wars, [Young] Indiana Jones, Lord of the Rings, James Bond (as The Man With the Golden Gun), Sherlock Holmes (as Holmes, his brother Mycroft and Sir Henry Baskerville in different projects, surprisingly never playing Professor Moriarty, as far as I know anyway), Airport (’77), Frankenstein, Dracula, The Mummy, Fu Manchu, etc.

    Some of the other names that I failed to list in the AFI male omissions:

    Alan Ladd

    Elvis Presley

    The Beatles

    Dick Powell

    Duane Jones (purely on the strength of Night of the Living Dead)

    and among the current stars:

    George Clooney

    Brad Pitt

    Edward Norton

     

    And some very notable actresses from the silent era:

    Maria Falconetti (The Passion of Joan of Arc)

    Janet Gaynor (Sunrise)

    Loretta Young

    Gloria Swanson

    Mabel Normand

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    Also:

    Charles Laughton

    John Cazale

    Glenn Ford

    Hal Holbrook

    Jack Palance

    Cameron Mitchell

    Fred Williamson

    John Gilbert

    Charles Boyer

    Maurice Chavalier

    Robert Cummings

    Jim Brown

    Jim Kelly

    Dana Andrews

    Van Heflin

    Burgess Meredith

    William Marshall

    Richard Roundtree

    Cesar Romero

     

    And

    Helen Hayes

    Dorothy McGuire

    Ruth Gordon

    Jacqueline Bisset

    Genevieve Bujold

    Inger Stevens

    Rita Moreno

    Dorothy Malone

    Ethel Barrymore

    Jean Seberg

     

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    Sorry, but he passed away two years ago, and they don’t give posthumous awards except when an actor dies after giving a competitive performance. I’m always angry at them for not having honored the great horror stars while they were still alive.

    It makes me so sad tbh.  I mean Lee deserved it so much.

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