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How is it an “inspired choice” if it was essentially paid for or forced to committee members? Making inspired choices is nominating something regardless of silly campaigns or spammed emails. Andrea’s nomination was anything but. And those emails and tweets don’t even mention anything about actually watching To Leslie.
It definitely is an inspired choice when you consider how many precursor nominations the other nominees this year (and in recent decades) had before getting their nomination, compared to Riseborough who has a couple mentions from small groups. That and the fact that months ago we all had a general idea of who would be nominated, only for Riseborough to make things exciting with her last minute campaign (which wasn’t as costly as most of the other contenders) which the Academy thankfully listened to.
ReplyCopy URLSorry but the counter-narrative some posters are trying to pull simply isn’t working 💀 you can’t gaslight people into thinking Riseborough is a poor underdog who triumphed against all odds in fighting the studios. The reality is that her campaign used her establishment Hollywood (read: white) connections to game the ‘system’ and get her a nomination for a film which made less than $30k at the box office.
You cannot frame this as a rallying call against money and campaigning in Hollywood. Mo’nique took a stand against this over a decade ago, and her career never recovered. Black women have been forced to ‘play the game’ and check all of the boxes the Hollywood establishment sets out in order to get half the recognition others get (rather than no recognition at all), and now suddenly everyone has an epiphany and thinks campaigning is wrong? I don’t buy it at all.
You cannot frame this as an attack on Riseborough’s performance. Whether the performance is worthy of a nomination or not is completely irrelevant to the central debate being had. You can like Andrea (as I do – loved her in The Death of Stalin), think that money in Hollywood and the awards system is shady, AND acknowledge that this year the industry came up with a fresh and exciting way to exclude black women. All of these things can be true at the same time, unless you’re intentionally missing the point.
In addition, the attempts by Frances Fisher and others in claiming that the people leading the backlash ‘don’t really know how campaigning works’ or ‘don’t really know how the voting system works’ are being disingenuous. We know how Oscar campaigning works. I won a prize for my Masters dissertation on electoral systems reform, and Frances Fisher wants to tell me I don’t know how ranked voting works 💀 give me a break.
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Sorry but the counter-narrative some posters are trying to pull simply isn’t working
you can’t gaslight people into thinking Riseborough is a poor underdog who triumphed against all odds in fighting the studios. The reality is that her campaign used her establishment Hollywood (read: white) connections to game the ‘system’ and get her a nomination for a film which made less than $30k at the box office. You cannot frame this as a rallying call against money and campaigning in Hollywood. Mo’nique took a stand against this over a decade ago, and her career never recovered. Black women have been forced to ‘play the game’ and check all of the boxes the Hollywood establishment sets out in order to get half the recognition others get (rather than no recognition at all), and now suddenly everyone has an epiphany and thinks campaigning is wrong? I don’t buy it at all. You cannot frame this as an attack on Riseborough’s performance. Whether the performance is worthy of a nomination or not is completely irrelevant to the central debate being had. You can like Andrea (as I do – loved her in The Death of Stalin), think that money in Hollywood and the awards system is shady, AND acknowledge that this year the industry came up with a fresh and exciting way to exclude black women. All of these things can be true at the same time, unless you’re intentionally missing the point. In addition, the attempts by Frances Fisher and others in claiming that the people leading the backlash ‘don’t really know how campaigning works’ or ‘don’t really now how the voting system works’ are being disingenuous. We know how Oscar campaigning works. I won a prize for my Masters dissertation on electoral systems reform, and Frances Fisher wants to tell me I don’t know how ranked voting works give me a break.
Funnily enough I think a lot of these same members would be angry if Frances McDormand or Lady Gaga pulled what Andrea did. It’s just that Andrea has an aura of being outside the studio campaign system so people justify her strategy..svg” class=”emoji”
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Why is Andrea being blamed for POC’s not being nominated though?! She of course utilised her privilege, but so did other white nominees who you don’t seem to be attacking. Academy voters had five slots for Best Actress so blame them for not nominating Deadwyler and Davis, not Riseborough who should be allowed to campaign for an Oscar nomination without being blamed for the Academy’s other choices!!
ReplyCopy URLRiseborough only took one spot. Why are people acting like she took the place of five actresses or smth? Davis wasn’t happening anyway. As for Danielle… the other contenders either had stronger movies or more passion so she was the one to fall unfortunately.
There are only five spots, so one spot is significant. She almost surely took the place of Viola or Danielle.
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The Riseborough campaign is now being called into question of breaking multiple academy rules lol. This isn’t just about “she worked the game and getting a win for indies,” she and her team possibly broke the Academy rules to do so, rules that studios are playing along with and it came at a cost of WOC. This also wasn’t just some grassroots campaign; this had a ton of A-list friends participate in a copypasta social media push following a mass email campaign orchestrated by the team (which possibly breaks the rules), Frances naming competition and effectively telling them to not give them high ranking votes while the official Instagram page posted a review that propped up Andrea over Blanchett (both of these instances now are being questioned of violating rules too). Stop being willingly dense.
ReplyCopy URLWhy is Andrea being blamed for POC’s not being nominated though?! She of course utilised her privilege, but so did other white nominees who you don’t seem to be attacking. Academy voters had five slots for Best Actress so blame them for not nominating Deadwyler and Davis, not Riseborough who should be allowed to campaign for an Oscar nomination without being blamed for the Academy’s other choices!!
Where specifically in my post do I “blame” Andrea as an individual? This is barely even about her, but the industry and awards system itself, which I deliberately made very clear in my post.
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Reread what you said… it was very clearly about Andrea and her campaign.
This thread is literally about the investigation of her campaign 💀 I’m genuinely confused at why you’re calling people out for discussing Andrea’s campaign in a thread … about her campaign?
Like I said, I’m not blaming Andrea as an individual – she likely had little to no influence on campaign strategy.
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This thread is literally about the investigation of her campaign
I’m genuinely confused at why you’re calling people out for discussing Andrea’s campaign in a thread … about her campaign? Like I said, I’m not blaming Andrea as an individual – she likely had little to no influence on campaign strategy. Don’t twist it lol… I’m calling out the disingenuousness of people calling out her campaigning, but willing to look the other way when it’s done, to even greater excess, by studios.
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