Andrea Riseborough’s Oscar Nomination Under Investigation by Academy

[Pablo J Garcia Joined: Jan 11th, 2016 Topics: 0 Posts: 166 View Predictions]

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Lets be real. The two afro-american actresses split their votes. Therefore none got in.

Besides, as TOM always says, what it counts how many people is crazy for your performance, not that it is liked by more people. I have no problem with A being nominated, but i want B to be nominated no matter what.

Here is where Ms Fisher was wrong. You cant say the other are safe… it is misleading people… but on the other hand, if they changed their vote towards Andrea, it means that they werent so apasionated about the other performances.

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[babypook Joined: Nov 4th, 2010 Topics: 23 Posts: 3612 View Predictions]

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the wendell show wrote:

I wonder if Frances (the real Frances) will issue a statement or address this.

Only if she can take another swipe at the mods for allowing freedom of speech.

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[mmm2021 Joined: Dec 8th, 2021 Topics: 0 Posts: 54 View Predictions]

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The whole drama has been ridiculous. I can understand that a lot of people are disappointed that their favorites have been snubbed (I personally would love to see Danielle Deadwyler being nominated) , but it’s not like someone bribed or killed somebody. It all boils down to a tweet from an actress I have never heard of, and maybe mentioning a competitor in a FYC campaign.  This vs. millions of dollars spent by studios for promotions. Do you really think that voters were more influenced by that last minute unconventional campaign than by those millions worth campaigns?

I think many voters supported Riseborough, because they did want a surprise in  an predictable, money based voting process, where small movies are at huge disadvantage from the very beginning.

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[Jacob "Oscar Boy" Boe Joined: Apr 20th, 2019 Topics: 4 Posts: 1249 View Predictions]

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What I think is amazing is how much people think her tweet influenced the branch. Like, people, seriously, you think that her tweet is what got Andrea the nom? If Frances Fisher has that power then I wanna know what Jane Fonda or Meryl Streep could do. I mean be fucking for real. Riseborough got in because actors were inundated with emails, friends hosted screenings, and MULTIPLE people took to social media to voice their admiration. Fran’s tweet did not cause Deadwyler and Davis to miss 💀

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[Honey Joined: Jan 30th, 2017 Topics: 0 Posts: 420 View Predictions]

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I mean strategically speaking, if u want specifically 1 person to get a nomination, it makes no sense to put on your ballot their closest competition. If the nomination goes by how often someone shows up on a ballot, then obviously nobody is gonna put on their ballot their closest competitors so their personal #1 has an easier time of winning the eventual Oscar. If it goes by how often someone gets #1 votes, then it’s the same, ud vote for ur #1 and have 4 throwaway contenders to have weaker competition for ur fave and not put on the ballot your closest competitor. I assume that could’ve been the case for Andrea where other passionate voters for other contenders with the same mentality all slotting in Andrea somewhere in their ballot over the some of the others (Danielle/Viola/Michelle’s/etc) assuming she’s going to be a throwaway but at least not a vote for the competition to get in and eventually she showed up on a lot of #1 when/if some of their personal #1 fell out and became a #1 vote for Andrea and then her name showed up on more ballots with the original #1 passionate Andrea voters eventually leading to an actual nomination. I don’t think most voters vote like this but I assume that’s exactly how some including the Frances Fischer and the #1 Andrea voters probably casted their ballot and I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them purposely left off the other 4 eventual nominees, assuming others got the others covered, which she kind of hinted at.

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[babypook Joined: Nov 4th, 2010 Topics: 23 Posts: 3612 View Predictions]

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mmm2021 wrote:

The whole drama has been ridiculous. I can understand that a lot of people are disappointed that their favorites have been snubbed (I personally would love to see Danielle Deadwyler being nominated) , but it’s not like someone bribed or killed somebody. It all boils down to a tweet from an actress I have never heard of, and maybe mentioning a competitor in a FYC campaign. This vs. millions of dollars spent by studios for promotions. Do you really think that voters were more influenced by that last minute unconventional campaign than by those millions worth campaigns?

I think many voters supported Riseborough, because they did want a surprise in an predictable, money based voting process, where small movies are at huge disadvantage from the very beginning.

Well, Frances was in Unforgiven for a reason. She didn’t audition for it.

However I mostly agree with your points (and others)

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[Joe Langer Joined: Dec 5th, 2021 Topics: 0 Posts: 401 View Predictions]

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this witch hunt is going to make more people vote for her. actors won’t like their choice to be questioned. I watched the film and Andrea was good but it will be a shame if she wins over michelle yeoh

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[wattsgold Joined: Oct 6th, 2018 Topics: 2 Posts: 2062 View Predictions]

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Babylonian wrote:

The irony. If Lady Gaga pulled this astroturf Andrea route to a nomination, I’m guessing you’d have a much different take.

She will always have the millions to back up her obnoxious and loathsome campaigns. Money is not a problem as we have seen two times. And I doubt many A-listers will rush to Twitter to post that kind of messages for her.

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[wattsgold Joined: Oct 6th, 2018 Topics: 2 Posts: 2062 View Predictions]

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Joe Langer wrote:

this witch hunt is going to make more people vote for her. actors won’t like their choice to be questioned. I watched the film and Andrea was good but it will be a shame if she wins over michelle yeoh

Yes, people can be very reactive in these situations. That’s risky.

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[P(oweR) Valley Joined: Sep 27th, 2011 Topics: 2 Posts: 5406 View Predictions]

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babypook wrote:

So…how would y’all feel if Riseborough wins?

Early “cemented” Blanchett looks vulnerable to me now.
Still time for momentum to suddenly go haywire. Happens a lot.

I hope Andrea takes votes away from Cate, possibly allowing a much deserved Michelle Yeoh win.

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[MultipleOscarWinner Joined: Mar 3rd, 2017 Topics: 0 Posts: 343 View Predictions]

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P(oweR) Valley wrote:

I hope Andrea takes votes away from Cate, possibly allowing a much deserved Michelle Yeoh win.

Don’t ask me the logic of it but I feel who would’ve voted for Yeoh will now vote for Riseborough. I don’t know how any of you still have faith in this racist industry. I recall a conversation that happened around the mid-2010s when ratings were declining and reached a new low with The Shape of Water and then the pandemic happened and they became abysmal so there were some articles about how the future of the ceremony might’ve been in jeopardy and even the Academy itself. And concluding that very little has changed and controversies keep surrounding it while they’re about to reach the 100 years old mark, I think it would not be a bad idea to end an institution that keeps on mainting some of the worst traits the industry has to offer.

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[Opium Joined: Aug 4th, 2021 Topics: 0 Posts: 1391 View Predictions]

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Babylonian wrote:

The irony. If Lady Gaga pulled this astroturf Andrea route to a nomination, I’m guessing you’d have a much different take.

That excrement would the first in here crying.

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[Vicki Leekx Joined: Aug 3rd, 2019 Topics: 3 Posts: 1863 View Predictions]

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They did the most to cancel her and failed, awkward

FYC:

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Ana de Armas, Julianne Nicholson - Blonde (Best Actress, Supporting Actress)
Samantha Morton - She Said (Best Supporting Actress)
Kerry Condon - The Banshees of Inisherin (Best Supporting Actress)

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[Manav Joined: Dec 21st, 2019 Topics: 60 Posts: 6658 View Predictions]

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Lmao

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