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  • Jazzy
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    Ridiculous. Alphabetically you also have in the same ABC range:

    A Private War
    A Quiet Place
    At Eternity’s Gate
    Beautiful Boy
    Ben Is Back
    Boy Erased
    Can You Ever Forgive Me?
    Cold War
    Colette

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    AayaanUpadhyaya
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    A Private War
    A Quiet Place
    At Eternity’s Gate
    Beautiful Boy
    Ben Is Back
    Boy Erased
    Can You Ever Forgive Me?
    Cold War
    Colette

    So?

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    Jazzy
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    So?

    Meaning that the 5 nominees were not the only titles on the A-B-C range of ballot. There were other films within that range. It’s not like the voter just ticked off the first 5 choices.

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    mafro987
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    I think this is a valid observation. The people adamantly disagreeing don’t understand what you’re arguing – he’s saying that this could influence the voting pattern, not that it’s the sole explanation for the nominations!

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    AayaanUpadhyaya
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    Meaning that the 5 nominees were not the only titles on the A-B-C range of ballot. There were other films within that range. It’s not like the voter just ticked off the first 5 choices.

    Okay please read what I am trying to say. I am not implying that the voter is BLINDLY just picking off the first five name they see. I am saying that films and actors that voters like are possibly at an advantage when their films are ranked higher on a ballot.

    In other words, I am saying that if a voter liked Blackkklansman and Widows equally, the former is probably at an advantage to get nominated over the latter. Or that if a voter is apathetic to Vice and If Beale Streets Could Talk because they didn’t see them in time, they are possibly more likely to name check Bale and Adams than they are to name check King, Rockwell or Vice in ensemble.

    How is that so hard to understand?

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    AayaanUpadhyaya
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    I think this is a valid observation. The people adamantly disagreeing don’t understand what you’re arguing – he’s saying that this could influence the voting pattern, not that it’s the sole explanation for the nominations!

    Finally! Thank you!!

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    tom92
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    There are to many examples for it to just be coincidental IMO though. And it’s definitely not a conspiracy. But it doesn’t have to be a conspiracy for it to be somewhat of a trend though.

    I just need clarity on how the ballot is structured. If it indeed is in a alphabetical order, it’s only natural to expect that to play an impact.

    It’s certainly weird and you’re entitled to your opinion but they aren’t any out of the blue nominations for me. SAG ensemble is always a weird one

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    AayaanUpadhyaya
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    Oh and I just realized this probably also explains the absolute absurdity of The Americans getting the ensemble nod with Rhys and Russel getting snubbed.

    Or that of Atlanta getting nominated for ensemble with Glover getting snubbed.

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    Lil Tony
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    This thread is just something I can’t explain. However you put it, I saw mostly deserving nods today

    I don't know who to STAN yet

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    JackO
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    Or maybe the nominating committee didn’t like her performance as much as other groups

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    I wouldn’t doubt that films earlier in the ballot due to their titles might have a small advantage, but I can’t say how much if at all it leads to them actually receiving more or less nominations because of that factor.

    Don’t SAG nominating committees have over a thousand voters? I don’t buy enough of them being that lazy that the place of a film or performer’s name on the ballot would actually lead to a nomination or snub. Also, don’t forget about Aparicio failing to make the cut.

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    Oh and I just realized this probably also explains the absolute absurdity of The Americans getting the ensemble nod with Rhys and Russel getting snubbed.

    Or that of Atlanta getting nominated for ensemble with Glover getting snubbed.

    Glover with the G is still moderately close to the beginning of the alphabet, so I’d call that a stretch.

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    You guys are just in denial. It’s obvious that the alphabetical order is the responsible for some snubs. No way this is all a coincidence and no way they actually watched everything.

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    I mean it sounds kinda insane, but it kinda works. Like when you’re taking a poll that says “Select your five favorite movies from this list” not everyone is necessarily already going to know what their five are so they go down the list and see what they like:
    “Ooh! Bohemian Rhapsody I liked that one!”
    “I also liked Crazy Rich Asians I’ll pick that!”
    And by G they have 5 picks. Many probably scroll through the rest to find their die-hard favorites (possibly showing how much A Star is Born is beloved) and take out a previous pick, but I’m sure many are like “well I’ve already done 5 and these are good choices so I’ll move on” and they don’t even look at the rest of the options. I mean I see the flaw in the argument, but it’s not completely implausible. I think most of those nominees were gonna happen anyway, but it’s the only reason I can give myself in order to remain sane at the moment for them picking Bohemian Rhapsody

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    I mean it sounds kinda insane, but it kinda works. Like when you’re taking a poll that says “Select your five favorite movies from this list” not everyone is necessarily already going to know what their five are so they go down the list and see what they like:
    “Ooh! Bohemian Rhapsody I liked that one!”
    “I also liked Crazy Rich Asians I’ll pick that!”
    And by G they have 5 picks. Many probably scroll through the rest to find their die-hard favorites (possibly showing how much A Star is Born is beloved) and take out a previous pick, but I’m sure many are like “well I’ve already done 5 and these are good choices so I’ll move on” and they don’t even look at the rest of the options. I mean I see the flaw in the argument, but it’s not completely implausible. I think most of those nominees were gonna happen anyway, but it’s the only reason I can give myself in order to remain sane at the moment for them picking Bohemian Rhapsody

    Why would someone join SAGs if they bother picking their favorite performances of the year? Makes no sense.

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