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    I feel like every one has taken a crazy pill with ASIB, as in I haven’t disliked an Oscar frontrunner this much in a very long time ….I didn’t just dislike it , it genuinely irritated me.  Don’t get me wrong , the best thing about this movie is Lady Gaga but just about everything else was unbearable from Bradley Cooper’s hammy acting , Sam Elliot’s articulation , the exploitative relationship , the stereotypical tropes around “pop ” music, it just felt like a  very low brow movie.
    Would you guys care to eplain why you liked ASIB, since my opinion is obviously in the minority ? No judgements and no pushback ….I’m just curious as to the  opinions of others who loved it ….

     

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    Apparently this entire sub hates it so your not alone. It’s amazing film I don’t understand the hate.

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    You just had to make a whole ass thread instead of replying to the ASIB film thread huh 🤦🏻‍♂️

    You’re not special, there are other users on here that hate ASIB to the bone.

    Regarding the acclaim, you can’t buy Rotten Tomatoes scores (90%), Metacritic (88), or critic reviews. Nor do the box office lie ($200M Domestic, $400m WW). Or the countless nominations of the stars, not to mention the perfect 11/11 guild scorecard of the movie.

    Tl;dr: You’re not special. Next.

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    You just had to make a whole ass thread instead of replying to the ASIB film thread huh 🤦🏻‍♂️ You’re not special, there are other users on here that hate ASIB to the bone. Regarding the acclaim, you can’t buy Rotten Tomatoes scores (90%), Metacritic (88), or critic reviews. Nor do the box office lie ($200M Domestic, $400m WW). Or the countless nominations of the stars, not to mention the perfect 11/11 guild scorecard of the movie. Tl;dr: You’re not special. Next.

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    Calm down friend. As a film lover and creative ,that especially loves this time of year because fascinating cinema is talked about and someone who has been following the awards seasons since I was very young, I am interested in unpacking and talking about these films.  I especially disliked ASIB despite the acclaim … I just wanted to have a discussion from that point of view since I’m open to rewatching it with a different context , frame of mind or even a different perspective . This was the conversation I was hoping to start on this thread , art is meant to be played with and minds can change …..it’s not black and white .

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    I went back an revisited my initial review of “A Star is Born” which I posted here on October 5 right after watching the movie. This is pretty much my sentiment still today and I expect “Shallow” to be its only Oscar and that will make Lady GaGa an Oscar winner. I do really like Bradley Cooper and I would love to see him win the big one, but I just don’t see it this year which means he’ll probably sit through the ceremony losing three times. It wouldn’t bother me at all if he does win for something.

    I just got back from seeing “A Star is Born” and I enjoyed it very much, but the only Oscar I see in its future would be Original Song. I think Cooper, Gaga, and Elliot will probably get nods, but I didn’t think any of their performances were Oscar worthy. I’m a big fan of Cooper, but I felt he growled his way through which was almost annoying (except when singing which was solid). Lady Gaga was a tad better – I mean she was very good, but I expect there to be much better performances from female leads this year. And Sam Elliot was very good, and a few of his scenes were moving – if any of these actors get the Oscar I would hope it will be him. I actually liked Dave Chappelle in his minor but effective role. The music was the best part of the movie (primarily the rock and roll and the ballads from Ally – I’m not really familiar with Lady Gaga’s music, but can she sing? Oh yes she can!! Worth a view, but a just a tad disappointed as I guess I expected more from the reviews I read. And I see Jon Peters produced this version as well as the Streisand version. He did much better this time around.

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    <p style=”text-align: left;”> </p> Calm down friend. As a film lover and creative ,that especially loves this time of year because fascinating cinema is talked about and someone who has been following the awards seasons since I was very young, I am interested in unpacking and talking about these films. I especially disliked ASIB despite the acclaim … I just wanted to have a discussion from that point of view since I’m open to rewatching it with a different context , frame of mind or even a different perspective . This was the conversation I was hoping to start on this thread , art is meant to be played with and minds can change …..it’s not black and white .

    Bohemian Rhapsody made me want to scratch my eyes out, but you don’t see me creating threads here and there do you. If you’re a true film lover and creative, there’s plenty of discussions already available for viewing and replying both here in the Goldderby forum and the Awardswatch forum. Both offer plenty of reviews about every aspect of the film. A Star is Born is one of the most widely seen films this year. This thread comes off not as curious, but disingenous. I suggest you start there before all the haters start flooding this thread.

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    Bohemian Rhapsody made me want to scratch my eyes out, but you don’t see me creating threads here and there do you. If you’re a true film lover and creative, there’s plenty of discussions already available for viewing and replying both here in the Goldderby forum and the Awardswatch forum. Both offer plenty of reviews about every aspect of the film. A Star is Born is one of the most widely seen films this year. This thread comes off not as curious, but disingenous. I suggest you start there before all the haters start flooding this thread.

    No harm intended , but perhaps that cynical response also attracts haters , the tone of this thread does not have to be attack driven rather I know many walked out of ASIB moved , quite deeply , I never quite bought their relationship so didn’t feel the same way ( but I bought Gaga as Ally, she was tremendous , I just found  Cooper’s character inauthentic).

    What was it about their relationship that moved so many people (or you ?) ….it’s clearly tapping into some sort of zeitgeist. Yes I’ve read the reviews and the think pieces ….but it’s different from canvassing the personal opinion regarding this film .

    PS. Bohemian Rhapsody is not considered a good film , ASIB is considered a good film ; despite what I think .

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    iT wAS bOUgHt!!!!!1111

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    Thank goodness that what you dislike is ASIB and not A Star is Born. Thank you very much

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    FYC:

    Best Actor :
    Riz Ahmed for Sound Of Metal
    Delroy Lindo for Da 5 Bloods
    Gary Oldman for Mank

    Best Actress:
    Andra Day for The United States vs Billie Holiday
    Vanessa Kirby for Pieces of a Woman

    Best Supporting Actor:
    Daniel Kaluuya for Judas and the Black Messiah
    Paul Raci for Sound Of Metal

    Best Supporting Actress:
    Amanda Seyfried for Mank
    Helena Zengel for News of the World

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    lol every biggest best picture contender needs to suffer these meaningless backlash every year. 

    La la land

    The shape of water

    three billboards

    ASIB

    Green Book

    What’s next? Roma?

    What about next year? “Once upon a time in Hollywood” by Tarantino?

     

    Coen-Lynch-Fellini
    FYC: Soul & Judas and the Black Messiah

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    I had very mixed feelings about the movie. Everything was solid and competent yet I disliked the exploitative relationship at the heart of the movie, I disliked the character of Jackson, disliked that Ally is the only female in the whole entire movie, was one of the few who wasn’t enamored with Cooper’s singing abilities, found the acting good but not great. I found the screenplay cliche-ridden and of very poor quality. Certain scenes worked really well and were well directed and the love story seemed to really work for most people – I also was surprised by how much I liked Andrew Dice Clay as Ally’s father. Several of the songs were great, especially “I’ll Never Love Again”. I really did not like the direction and writing of the suicide scene. I think lots of awards fanatics resented it’s front-runner status. I sort of enjoyed this movie but found it very flawed. I had given it a grade of “B” immediately after seeing the movie but after all these months I realize I hardly remember this movie at all. I would be disappointed if it were to win Best Picture, but I acknowledge it has several things going for it in what I believe will be a two-way race with Roma, the masterpiece that could also win Best Picture.

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    lol every biggest best picture contender needs to suffer these meaningless backlash every year. La la land The shape of water three billboards ASIB Green Book What’s next? Roma? What about next year? “Once upon a time in Hollywood” by Tarantino?

    Roma is already being bashed for being “boring” and “pretentious”

    I don’t get the ASIB acclaim either . I found it was good but completely overrated (impeccable ending tho)

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    FYC :

    Best Actress - Viola Davis, Frances McDormand
    Best Actor - Delroy Lindo, Chadwick Boseman
    Best Supporting Actor - Colman Domingo, Glynn Turman
    Best Picture - Nomadland
    Best Director - Chloé Zhao
    SAG Ensemble - Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
    Best Cinematography - Nomadland

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    Although I haven’t seen it, I don’t get the acclaim neither. Musically Bohemian Rhapsody was better.

    Trolling these days is getting incredibly subpar.

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    I agree that it’s overrated, but I mean, look at the kind of story and at the actors involved. It was obviously going to be well received, unless it was that bad.
    Btw, I think it’s a decent movie and I’m glad to say I have yet to find a very poor film between BP contenders: I think ASIB, Roma, Green Book, THe Favourite, BlacKkKlansman, Black Panther, First Man and A Quiet Place all range from decent to slightly more than good. Though I admit none of them would be a worthy winner, and most of them wouldn’t even be worthy nominees – putting the most of my hopes on If Beale Street Could Talk between the films I still haven’t seen.

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