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  • MKnight98
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    Oh man. I really wasn’t expecting them to kill Thanos in the beginning, and not that quickly. I really can’t believe they chopped his arm off and then decapitated him. That was a brutal scene for a Marvel movie and I loved it.

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    For example, wouldn’t Rocket removing the Ether from Jane completely change Thor: The Dark World (not complaining as that movie is terrible) therefore forever impacting Thor as his mom never dies?

    Captain returned the stones to the exact moment they took it at the end of the movie.

    Also, changing the past wouldn’t affect the future but rather create an alternative timeline as the Ancient One explaned it.

    Gamora is still alive but missing.

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    Captain returned the stones to the exact moment they took it at the end of the movie. Also, changing the past wouldn’t affect the future but rather create an alternative timeline as the Ancient One explaned it. Gamora is still alive but missing.

    It would only create an alternative timeline if they didn’t return the stones. But when Steve returns the stones, I assume he returns them to right before they were ever taken, making things such as 2023 Thor’s convo with his mom never take place?

    Also, since they never actually get the Space Stone in 2012 and Loki takes it, there should be a timeline with Loki now having the stone.

    In addition to that, the biggest problem is if Steve returned all those stones, how the hell is old Steve in the main timeline? Would that mean that the MCU Steve we knew prior never existed and was never pulled out of that water, or does that mean that they somehow both existed?

    In general, the movie has a complicated timeline plot line that they try to explain with Bruce’s “rules” but then never follow them.

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    Captain returned the stones to the exact moment they took it at the end of the movie. Also, changing the past wouldn’t affect the future but rather create an alternative timeline as the Ancient One explaned it. Gamora is still alive but missing.

     

    Im pretty sure Gamora turned to ash with the rest f her fathers team even though she fought with the Avengers!

     

    This is where I am confused so someone please answer and inform me😂 if Steve returned the soul stone to Vormir, that means he talked to Red Skull btw, than wouldn’t Natasha come back to life because she never had to give her life for it in the future if thanos never snapped? If that’s true do you guys think that she is still alive just hiding somewhere because I really don’t see them killing her off like that!

     

    Theory time! Black Widows solo movie is coming out next year, or the year after that, so maybe the end credit scene will show her coming out of the soul stone! Thoughts?

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    Also I’m confused as to why the opening weekend box office doesn’t include Sunday! Can anyone tell me why?

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    Now that I’m thinking about it, I’m noticing more flaws in this movie.

    The treatment they gave Captain Marvel was terrible. They hyped up her being the one to basically save the Avengers during the Infinity War post credits and during her own movie’s post credits, but she basically did nothing. Like, we didn’t even get to see her meet the Avengers for the first time and the pager was NEVER mentioned. Her being the one to save Tony & Nebula from space was random. I assume they originally had that Captain Marvel end credit scene where she meets the Avengers but cut it out due to time, but it really should’ve been in there. She was kinda useless in this movie besides punching and nearly destroying Thanos a couple of times.

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    Now that I’m thinking about it, I’m noticing more flaws in this movie. The treatment they gave Captain Marvel was terrible. They hyped up her being the one to basically save the Avengers during the Infinity War post credits and during her own movie’s post credits, but she basically did nothing. Like, we didn’t even get to see her meet the Avengers for the first time and the pager was NEVER mentioned. Her being the one to save Tony & Nebula from space was random. I assume they originally had that Captain Marvel end credit scene where she meets the Avengers but cut it out due to time, but it really should’ve been in there. She was kinda useless in this movie besides punching and nearly destroying Thanos a couple of times.

     

    Yeah the only things she really did against Thanos was hold him down in the beginning and stand still when he head butted her at the end. But even at the beginning he almost died from destroying the stones two days earlier so he was weak and wouldn’t be that hard to hold in the first place so she was basically useless!

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    Im pretty sure Gamora turned to ash with the rest f her fathers team even though she fought with the Avengers!

    Since we literally see her fighting with the rest of the (female) avengers, it’s pretty likely that Tony’s snap ommited her.

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    Since we literally see her fighting with the rest of the (female) avengers, it’s pretty likely that Tony’s snap ommited her.

    You know, I kinda feared that could have happened. That would be pretty terrible tbh.

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    I wonder if Gamora and Black Widow are both in stones???

    I do believe the future movies will help me understand this “time travel” thing better.

    There are so many questions regarding this.

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    I really liked the film and time flew by. But like many I noticed flaws and have many questions.

    I agree with Captain Marvel not playing that big of a role. She was supposed to save them, to be the most powerful one, to be this and that. But in the end she never really got “together” with them or became part of the team. She even mentioned that there were many other planets that needed help and she needed to go and help them so…bye losers! Really?

    And on the “most powerful” side of things, Scarlet Witch basically showed everybody who the real boss is. So fuck Captain Marvel, I guess. And that fucking ugly haircut.

    And why did she save Tony? Or how? Who told her they were up there if Nick is gone? Did she just run into them?

    In the end she did help, it was a very awesome moment when she came back and destroyed the ship. I also liked Larson’s tiny scene with Holland. But she was advertised as a bigger deal than she was. And she earned over a billion dollars at the box office because we thought it was necessary to see her film. Some of her moments could’ve been handled by Thor or the Guardians and we wouldn’t have needed to sit through her awful film.

    Elsewhere, the whole Nebula thing is confusing. Where’s dead Nebula or shot Nebula? They weren’t supposed to mess with things like that.

    Regardless of what we might say about Fat Thor, Chris Hemsworth absolutely killed this new Thor. He was my favorite performance in the film, followed by Downey, Holland and Gillan. Cooper keeps being amazing as Rocket. Rudd also shined. Renner got A LOT of payback from missing the previous film.

    And why are so many people worried about Natasha? Isn’t she getting her own movie? She’ll be back. It can’t be a prequel or origin story. Right? Could they actually do the female Avengers thing for her movie as many people have mentioned?

    The scene with all the female Avengers was INSANE….ly short. They did nothing with it. But for those few seconds, it was amazing. Although I don’t get why that happened in the context of the film. Why or who said “come on girls, let’s do this, it’ll be cute if we all go together, just us girls”?

    Okoye and Shuri’s dresses at the funeral were just perfect. I loved seeing them next to Cardelini’s dress which was basic as fuck.

    If anybody recognized Ty Simpkins as the kid from IM3, congrats. You were one of 10 people in the entire universe who did. The rest of us were just “Who?” during the funeral.

    They could’ve saved a lot of money using cardboard cutouts of everybody at the funeral. Because that’s exactly what it looked like. I mean Douglas, Pfeiffer and Larson looked terrible.

    Anyway, this post is already too long.

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    I really liked the film and time flew by. But like many I noticed flaws and have many questions. I agree with Captain Marvel not playing that big of a role. She was supposed to save them, to be the most powerful one, to be this and that. But in the end she never really got “together” with them or became part of the team. She even mentioned that there were many other planets that needed help and she needed to go and help them so…bye losers! Really? And on the “most powerful” side of things, Scarlet Witch basically showed everybody who the real boss is. So fuck Captain Marvel, I guess. And that fucking ugly haircut. And why did she save Tony? Or how? Who told her they were up there if Nick is gone? Did she just run into them? In the end she did help, it was a very awesome moment when she came back and destroyed the ship. I also liked Larson’s tiny scene with Holland. But she was advertised as a bigger deal than she was. And she earned over a billion dollars at the box office because we thought it was necessary to see her film. Some of her moments could’ve been handled by Thor or the Guardians and we wouldn’t have needed to sit through her awful film. Elsewhere, the whole Nebula thing is confusing. Where’s dead Nebula or shot Nebula? They weren’t supposed to mess with things like that. Regardless of what we might say about Fat Thor, Chris Hemsworth absolutely killed this new Thor. He was my favorite performance in the film, followed by Downey, Holland and Gillan. Cooper keeps being amazing as Rocket. Rudd also shined. Renner got A LOT of payback from missing the previous film. And why are so many people worried about Natasha? Isn’t she getting her own movie? She’ll be back. It can’t be a prequel or origin story. Right? Could they actually do the female Avengers thing for her movie as many people have mentioned? The scene with all the female Avengers was INSANE….ly short. They did nothing with it. But for those few seconds, it was amazing. Although I don’t get why that happened in the context of the film. Why or who said “come on girls, let’s do this, it’ll be cute if we all go together, just us girls”? Okoye and Shuri’s dresses at the funeral were just perfect. I loved seeing them next to Cardelini’s dress which was basic as fuck. If anybody recognized Ty Simpkins as the kid from IM3, congrats. You were one of 10 people in the entire universe who did. The rest of us were just “Who?” during the funeral. They could’ve saved a lot of money using cardboard cutouts of everybody at the funeral. Because that’s exactly what it looked like. I mean Douglas, Pfeiffer and Larson looked terrible. Anyway, this post is already too long.

     

     

     

    I just can’t believe and I i don’t think that Black Widow is dead! I feel like an origin movie would just be stupid since she is dead but I also think that a movie where Hulk and Hawkeye try and save her, like The Search For Spock, would also be stupid since the story would evolve around two men. I think they should do a combination of the two where we see flashbacks and we find out what happened in Budapest while seeing them save her!

     

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    I think Black Widow is dead permanently. Marvel already gets a lot of hate meaningless deaths as 90% of the time they come back, so I’m pretty sure she will stay dead. Hulk already explained that he tried to make her comeback when he used the gauntlet, but she didn’t. All deaths using the soul stone seem to be final. Her movie was already rumoured to take place in the early 00s during her final days as a Russian spy right before becoming a SHIELD agent.

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    I would recommend reading this article if you’re confused like I was about how on earth Captain America’s ending makes sense when it clearly breaks the rules set up in the movie. The main important part:

    Cap dropped off all of the Infinity Stones and Thor’s hammer, went back to the 1940s and lived a good life with Peggy Carter, and then stayed in that timeline all the way up until some time AFTER that day when the Hulk sent him back to drop everything off. By living in the alternate timeline to a point past the date he began his time travel, Cap was then able to use his Quantum device to send himself BACK IN TIME without need for the big platform and machine, and he could even pick the precise spot where he wanted to arrive — namely, that hill with the park bench, right beside the spot where Hulk, Falcon, and Bucky would be waiting for him. Or maybe he jumped back to that morning, or the day before, to spend a little time catching up on this original timeline. The point is, he used the handheld device and the special rule about traveling backward in time to arrive at the same moment there on that hill, where his friends would be waiting for him.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2019/04/29/the-avengers-endgame-plot-hole-is-not-really-a-plot-hole-at-all-spoilers/#183dbdfd19e3

    This theory makes the most sense to me out of all the ones I’ve seen, and is the explanation I will be using until Marvel themselves confirm.

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    That was a nice read, thanks. It does explain things.

    Ugh, even in that poster Captain Marvel is just in a different place not joining everybody. Why, whyyy did we need her own awful movie and why did they trick everybody into spending a billion dollars if she was just gonna be in Endgame for like 8 minutes of screen time in a 3 hour film?

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