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    The Oscars being the first week of February has everyone pushing back their everything. At some point when will the precursors divorce themselves from the need of being precursors?

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    Those precursors suck. Oscars just do the same thing they’ve been doing over and over again, there’s no autonomy anymore.

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    I’m sick of sweeps. Too many performances aren’t sweep worthy are in the history books because of the sheep mentality.

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    Fight the good fight, M.

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    They have so much respect for Oscar because all the hype is on Oscar. The other award bodies just serve as Oscar prediction forums except maybe the Golden Globes as they’re full of surprises 85% of the time

    Taron Egerton (Rocketman) for best actor. Charlize Theron looks great in Bombshell teaser

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    I’m sick of sweeps. Too many performances aren’t sweep worthy are in the history books because of the sheep mentality.

    I hate sweeps more than you do. It just makes the season boring. And there are usually better contenders that could stop those sweeping but awards would just copy themselves

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    Taron Egerton (Rocketman) for best actor. Charlize Theron looks great in Bombshell teaser

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    They have so much respect for Oscar because all the hype is on Oscar. The other award bodies just serve as Oscar prediction forums except maybe the Golden Globes as they’re full of surprises 85% of the time

    The Golden Globes are fun(ny) for the occasional surprise like Aaron Taylor-Johnson but I also dislike them the most for setting frontrunners with there less than stellar taste (all four acting races the past two years).

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    The Golden Globes are fun(ny) for the occasional surprise like Aaron Taylor-Johnson but I also dislike them the most for setting frontrunners with there less than stellar taste (all four acting races the past two years).

    if others had chosen to make their own choices, Golden Globes wouldn’t be able to dictate anything. See how critics wanted Bale to happen (I know he won at GB too) but SAG and BAFTA decided it was Malek. Since CC chose Bale, if SAG had chosen Cooper we would have had a race no matter who BAFTA chooses. If Globes were to come after the other precursors, I’m sure they would have made some really different choices (it doesn’t matter if it’s good or bad). I loved the Aaron Taylor Johnson win cos no one expected that to happen. Huppert was another shocker that year. Also, no one expected them to embrace Bohemian Rhapsody this year but we all saw what happened. I love them for their surprises even though I do not agree with some of their picks. I hate sweeps

    Taron Egerton (Rocketman) for best actor. Charlize Theron looks great in Bombshell teaser

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    Honestly, the Hollywood Film Awards is even more exciting than all of these precursors combined.

     

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    The most stupid of all are Critic’s ”Choice” Awards when they follow blindly, like a year ago in the year of Shape of Water. Chalamet, Hawkins, Metcalf and Dafoe were winning most critic’s awards up to that moment, and then they awarded Oldman, McDormand, Janney and Metcalf just to be sure they predict Oscars correctly. Or this year when they went Mahershala Ali instead of Richard E. Grant for Best Supporting Actor and awarded Best Actress to Glenn Close and Lady Gaga in a tie. lol

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    When it comes to the four acting categories, I don’t think the GG is that dictating.

    In the supporting categories, they tend to agree/disagree with the Oscars from time to time. It’s the SAG/BAFTA that either: go with the expected contender contrary to the GG and give him/her momentum (Mahershala Ali, Moonlight); or, solidify GG’s unexpected picks and pave their ways to the eventual Oscar (Allison Janney, I Tonya).

    In the leading categories, the GG gives out 2 contenders left for the rest of the award season to decide. Again, it’s the SAG/BAFTA that are to blame for a slew of horrendous best actors/actresses winners (For example, Paltrow over Blanchett, Stone over Huppert, Witherspoon over Huffman,…).

    So yes, even though the GG is the pioneer, it’s actually the least of blame. Afterall, they are the first ceremony and I doubt they care that much about predicting the Oscar. It’s the sheep mentality adopted by CC/SAG/BAFTA that we should seriously criticise. And like the user above suggested, the critics’ choice award doesn’t even reflect the critics circuits’ awards anymore, but the who-we-predict-to-win-at-the-Oscar award.

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    The most stupid of all are Critic’s ”Choice” Awards when they follow blindly, like a year ago in the year of Shape of Water. Chalamet, Hawkins, Metcalf and Dafoe were winning most critic’s awards up to that moment, and then they awarded Oldman, McDormand, Janney and Metcalf just to be sure they predict Oscars correctly. Or this year when they went Mahershala Ali instead of Richard E. Grant for Best Supporting Actor and awarded Best Actress to Glenn Close and Lady Gaga in a tie. lol

    you’re 100% correct. They awarded Portman for Jackie because they felt she had the most momentum and would surely win. That was clearly because they were the first precursor that year as they aired so early. If they had aired after the GG, I’m sure they would have gone with Stone cos it was obvious that Huppert wasn’t winning the Oscar. All in all, the Globes remains the best.

     

    I hope they get the message and start making their own choices

    Taron Egerton (Rocketman) for best actor. Charlize Theron looks great in Bombshell teaser

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    I think GG likes to pave a path for their favorites, so that they can become more ‘close’ to winning the Oscar.
    I don’t think Isabelle Huppert’s win was that surprising. They love foreigner performances most of the times. Not to mention that when they nominate them is very rare for them not to award them. They’re Foreign press after all.
    About 2018, where they went completely different from the critics (I think Ronan was the only critical favourite they awarded), those wins were more than obvious. Between Rockwell and Dafoe it was obvious that the first had the most HFPA friendly performance. It was showy and had one of the biggest arcs in his movie. Not to mention Dafoe’s performance was hugely subtle and it didn’t had that much story. Janney the same thing. Hugely transformative role, everybody loves her and she’s basically everywhere. While Metcalf’s performance is not that showy and her big Oscar scenes are at the beginning of the movie and at the end. Frances never won a GG until that point so I think they just wanted to finally award her and they also liked her movie a lot. Franco and Ronan wins were more than expected. Gary Oldman winning was the most surprising I think. Not that he didn’t deserve but because of the history he had with HFPA. I just think they obviously knew Chalamet didn’t stand a chance of winning the Oscar. Age, the kind of role, whatever. So I think they went like ‘screw it’ and gave him the GG so they could make ‘peace’ with each other.
    About this year… Glenn was definitely the biggest surprise. And IMO one of the biggest upsets in the history of the Globes. But at the end of the day I think I can understand why her win wasn’t that surprising. Until that point Glenn’s two globes were for TV. She had never won one for a movie. She was overdue for her first Oscar win and her biggest opponent was Gaga. And HFPA received a HUGE backlash for awarding her years ago over Kirsten Dunst for Fargo. And I think they knew that if they awarded her this time over one of the best actresses alive they would again receive tons of criticism.

    But I agree that GG are more exciting than any other awards group because now they can ‘control’ the race. Even though most of the times they make absolutely atrocious decisions.

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    I think GG likes to pave a path for their favorites, so that they can become more ‘close’ to winning the Oscar. I don’t think Isabelle Huppert’s win was that surprising. They love foreigner performances most of the times. Not to mention that when they nominate them is very rare for them not to award them. They’re Foreign press after all. About 2018, where they went completely different from the critics (I think Ronan was the only critical favourite they awarded), those wins were more than obvious. Between Rockwell and Dafoe it was obvious that the first had the most HFPA friendly performance. It was showy and had one of the biggest arcs in his movie. Not to mention Dafoe’s performance was hugely subtle and it didn’t had that much story. Janney the same thing. Hugely transformative role, everybody loves her and she’s basically everywhere. While Metcalf’s performance is not that showy and her big Oscar scenes are at the beginning of the movie and at the end. Frances never won a GG until that point so I think they just wanted to finally award her and they also liked her movie a lot. Franco and Ronan wins were more than expected. Gary Oldman winning was the most surprising I think. Not that he didn’t deserve but because of the history he had with HFPA. I just think they obviously knew Chalamet didn’t stand a chance of winning the Oscar. Age, the kind of role, whatever. So I think they went like ‘screw it’ and gave him the GG so they could make ‘peace’ with each other. About this year… Glenn was definitely the biggest surprise. And IMO one of the biggest upsets in the history of the Globes. But at the end of the day I think I can understand why her win wasn’t that surprising. Until that point Glenn’s two globes were for TV. She had never won one for a movie. She was overdue for her first Oscar win and her biggest opponent was Gaga. And HFPA received a HUGE backlash for awarding her years ago over Kirsten Dunst for Fargo. And I think they knew that if they awarded her this time over one of the best actresses alive they would again receive tons of criticism. But I agree that GG are more exciting than any other awards group because now they can ‘control’ the race. Even though most of the times they make absolutely atrocious decisions.

    you’re right… That was exactly why I knew that Gaga wasn’t winning. Glenn was overdue just like Mcdormand.

    They really messed up their comedy /musical categories that Mcdormand year. They should have gone with Get Out, Daniel Kaluuya and Margot Robbie.

    Taron Egerton (Rocketman) for best actor. Charlize Theron looks great in Bombshell teaser

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    you’re right… That was exactly why I knew that Gaga wasn’t winning. Glenn was overdue just like Mcdormand.

    They really messed up their comedy /musical categories that Mcdormand year. They should have gone with Get Out, Daniel Kaluuya and Margot Robbie.

    Get Out wasn’t a Comedy though. James Franco was a correct winner (and he would be a worthy Oscar winner as well imo).

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