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    forwardswill
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    Regardless, it’s up for the jury to determine, not you or me. Arguing over it is pointless.

    Are these forums not here for discussion?

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    I was just wondering who do you guys think was the third jury save in supporting actress after Dowd and Robinson? Balfe, Blanchett, DeBose, Dench, Dunst, Negga and Streep are all clearly membership picks. King Richard, The Tragedy of Macbeth and West Side Story were all long-listed for best film and I doubt a jury ran to save Ana de Armas for a Bond movie or Anya Taylor-Joy for a psychological horror.

    Ana de Armas absolutely in a popular vote, after everybody saw the film, she character (or well scene) was the one thing everyone in the UK could argee was the undisputed highlight. Given how well NTTD did overall, I wouldn’t shocked if she was actually in the top 6.

    As for the 3rd save, probably Negga. Correct me if I’m wrong but Adapted Screenplay was the category Passing made without any Jury voting happening it all?. Their is a possibility that the film could’ve been a jury save in every non-screenplay category it made.

    Oscars FYC:

    "Lamb" – International Feature and all categories

    "Summer of Soul" – Picture, Film Editing and Documentary Feature

    “The Green Knight” – in all categories

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    but Adapted Screenplay was the category Passing made without any Jury voting happening it all?

    It made it into British film and casting as well.

    FYC:

    "The Good Fight" and "The Other Two" in all categories.

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    I was just wondering who do you guys think was the third jury save in supporting actress after Dowd and Robinson? Balfe, Blanchett, DeBose, Dench, Dunst, Negga and Streep are all clearly membership picks. King Richard, The Tragedy of Macbeth and West Side Story were all long-listed for best film and I doubt a jury ran to save Ana de Armas for a Bond movie or Anya Taylor-Joy for a psychological horror.

    It was clearly Kathryn Hunter, in my opinion. Not the type of performance that gets nominated for awards.

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    It was clearly Kathryn Hunter, in my opinion. Not the type of performance that gets nominated for awards.

    If they had seen the film, which they obviously had with the 8 longlists, they would be voting for her. Or she was just short and the jury was like “nope. we gotta have her.”

    Best Supporting Actress - Kathryn Hunter, Ann Dowd, Martha Plimpton, Judi Dench, Ruth Negga
    Best Supporting Actor - Troy Katsur, Ciarán Hinds, Alex Hassell, Bertie Carvel
    Best Actress - Tessa Thompson
    The Tragedy of Macbeth in Directing, Production Design, Cinematography and thee Kathryn Hunter
    Mass in Original Screenplay

    The Great - Elle Fanning, Nicholas Hoult and comedy writing

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    Films that have made it in for best film with no actors branch support in the past decade.

    2020: 1917, Parasite
    2019: Roma
    2018: Dunkirk
    2013: Life of Pi

    1917, Life of Pi, Parasite and Roma were all win competitive for an above the line category (and both 1917 and Roma won best film) and Roma got acting nominations at the Oscars so chances are Yalitza Aparicio was probably top 10 in the membership vote in her BAFTA category.

    The path for Dune to get into best film is the same as Dunkirk‘s but Dunkirk was a film about British history from arguably the most respected British director working today. With it not being win competitive for anything significant above the line and none of its actors getting long-listed (even in a category as barren as best actor) whilst around eight other contenders have remained unscathed on the long-list makes me sceptical of its chances at a best film nod.

    FYC:

    "The Good Fight" and "The Other Two" in all categories.

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    Films that have made it in for best film with no actors branch support in the past decade. 2020: 1917, Parasite 2019: Roma 2018: Dunkirk

    And you would assume all of these probably had acting contenders in the top 15

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    Yeah, but that Villeneuve nomination for Blade Runner 2049 makes me think that he has a lot of goodwill within the British Academy.

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    Dune isn’t an actors’ movie. There is apprently very little emoting on Arakis, because people on other planets/in the future don’t do emotions I guess (it wastes precious resources). I don’t know what better acting would have looked like. It’s sci-fi fantasy after all, no one watches it for the acting. It can still get far with technicals and directing.

    All those other films had personal struggles and interpersonal relationships at their heart. They needed acting.

    Best Supporting Actress - Kathryn Hunter, Ann Dowd, Martha Plimpton, Judi Dench, Ruth Negga
    Best Supporting Actor - Troy Katsur, Ciarán Hinds, Alex Hassell, Bertie Carvel
    Best Actress - Tessa Thompson
    The Tragedy of Macbeth in Directing, Production Design, Cinematography and thee Kathryn Hunter
    Mass in Original Screenplay

    The Great - Elle Fanning, Nicholas Hoult and comedy writing

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    And you would assume all of these probably had acting contenders in the top 15

    Absolutely. We already know Roma was a film that had support amongst actors because both Aparicio and De Tavira made it in at the Oscars, Parasite and 1917 both performed really well with BAFTA and considering how many celebrated British actors were in its ensemble and how well Nolan films have been performing with BAFTA, chances are someone from Dunkirk was in the top 15 in the supporting actor race that year.

    Dune can still get nominated in best film because it does have a lot of tech support but not being able to make a long-list of 15 in any acting category is quite a blow. I mean No Time to Die received the same amount of mentions on the long-list as Dune and is a film that is more tech heavy than it is acting heavy and it was still able to get two actors long-listed.

    FYC:

    "The Good Fight" and "The Other Two" in all categories.

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    chances are someone from Dunkirk was in the top 15 in the supporting actor race that year.

    Probably Rylance. He just won for Bridges of Spies and made the longlists these past two years for Chicago 7 and Don’t Look Up. The academy clearly likes him.

    Oscars FYC:

    "Lamb" – International Feature and all categories

    "Summer of Soul" – Picture, Film Editing and Documentary Feature

    “The Green Knight” – in all categories

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    Yeah, but that Villeneuve nomination for Blade Runner 2049 makes me think that he has a lot of goodwill within the British Academy.

    Possible and I would be predicting Denis Villeneuve in best director if this were the old system. But something I think is often glanced over when people talk about that specific year is how much BAFTA diverged from the AMPAS when it came to the nomination each of these films had. Get Out only got 2 nominations. Lady Bird only got 3 nominations and was a late release in the UK. Whilst Darkest Hour got into best film and tied with Three Billboards in nominations (9 each) and I, Tonya received 5 nominations. Blade Runner 2049 is a film that like I, Tonya also performed stronger with the BAFTA membership than it did with the AMPAS (8 BAFTA nominations vs 5 Oscar nominations). I mean for all we know considering how Phantom Thread was an under-seen late-breaker and BAFTA seemed to be apathetic towards Get Out and Lady Bird, the two directors next in line were probably Craig Gillespie and Joe Wright.

    If we’re going by the sheer amount of long-list mentions it’s films like House of Gucci and No Time to Die that seem to be the Darkest Hour/Blade Runner 2049‘s of this year that the BAFTAs take to more than the Oscars, not Dune.

    FYC:

    "The Good Fight" and "The Other Two" in all categories.

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    Who’ll be the other non jury nominee in Director besides Campion?

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    Who’ll be the other non jury nominee in Director besides Campion?

    Each of the nominations in director are juried. The rule change was only for the acting categories.

    FYC:

    "The Good Fight" and "The Other Two" in all categories.

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    This might be a dumb question, but is the longlist jury that selected the additional 3 (in the acting categories) the same jury that decides the 6 nominees? Just wondering in terms of predictions if the 3 “jury picks” would then by default make it into the nominations. Thanks for the help!

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